I’ve noticed an uptick in the number of pro-AI posts on this platform.

Various posts with titles similar to “When will people stop being afraid of AI” or “Can we please acknowledge AI was very needed for X

Can’t tell if its the propaganda machine invading, or annoying teenage tech-bros who are detached from reality.

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    AI (LLMs) is/are a fantastic tool.

    But that’s what it is, a tool that can make some tasks easier.

    It’s not world-changing like some tech bros and CEOs think it is because they don’t actually understand the technology.

    It’s also not the apocalypse or The Matrix or Skynet coming to end civilization. It’s just a tool.

    After the AI bubble bursts, AI will still be there, as a tool for humans to use.

    I think it’s possible that some of the people you see on Lemmy may have started using AI a little more in their lives and see it for what it is.

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      You know what’s crazy is that everyone has begun rebranding things that existed before AI as AI.

      The algorithm summary of a common question in Google results? Now it’s AI.

      Trello’s automation tasks moving items marked as “Done” to archive? Now it’s AI✨

      It’s idiotic lol

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      To be fair, given the power consumption it requires, it definitely leans towards civilization ending.

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        We also have “the Internet” slurping up massive amounts of energy.

        Current Global Electricity Breakdown:

        • Total Data Center/Infrastructure Demand: Approximately 2.0% of global electricity.
        • AI-Specific Share: Roughly 0.5% of global electricity.
        • “Traditional” Internet/Cloud: Roughly 1.5% of global electricity.

        The Internet is also a tool that humanity uses. Should we shut that down too? (I would argue yes considering how the “Information Superhighway” somehow made the average person dumber, but that’s a different discussion.)

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          Except the Internet is actually useful. AI has not shown that it deserves to use that insane amount of energy. It’s actually insane that you think AI isn’t an issue when it’s using 1/3rd as much energy as the ENTIRE INTERNET

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      LLMs are neat, and useful for some things - but as with practically everything in modern society, capitalism is ruining it.

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      It’s also not the apocalypse […] It’s just a tool.

      So, the problem with tools is that their existence still affects the systems they’re a part of.

      For instance, war between the US and Russia is much more dangerous now (yes, it used to be dangerous before as well) because now we have nuclear bombs. We did a whole cold war thing about it. Nuclear bombs change the world even when they’re not being used.

      Similarly, meth is just a tool. It is entirely possible to smoke meth, not become addicted, have a great time, vacuum your entire house I guess, come down, chill, and move on with the rest of your life. But, that’s not what we would say meth’s effect on society is, is it?

      I am so happy that you are capable of using AI without becoming a psychopath. I am concerned about the psychopaths.

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    Same. I noticed that I finally got banned from a few random instances I’d never visited before under my moderation history, and they were all by the same guy who claimed I was an “anti-AI troll” lmao

    The most hilarious part to this is I feel so dispassionate about the subject, I can seldom remember what it was I might have commented, and was probably something like “yeah this looks like slop” hahaha

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    If you ignore or are blissfully unaware of the negatives – and all the companies behind all the major product lines do their best to hide and minimize them – then it’s easy to find utility. Basically everyone I know IRL actively chooses to use AI for something. Both CRAP (Computer-Rendered Artificial Pictures) and code generation are very common.

    When I point out the ethical issues, I am generally dismissed entirely (“they’ll fix that” or “my impact is small”) or counter with something about quality (“it works now” and “it’s getting better”), which I find is beside the point.

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    Can’t tell if its the propaganda machine invading, or annoying teenage tech-bros who are detached from reality.

    They’re both “annoying teenage tech-bros who are detached from reality” and they are spreading propaganda they picked up elsewhere.

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    I think AI has positives to help people, that being said I think it’s out of control currently. I hope the bubble burst soon and we can actually get to a reasonable balance.

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      I hope the bubble burst soon and we can actually get to a reasonable balance.

      In fictional stories yes, in reality no. The only application that AI will find is to replace all employees, and people will be thrown out into the street.

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    Zoomers and gen x that drank the kool aid. What’s worse is they are saying yes to high paying jobs to fuck us all in the ass.

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      As a member of GenX (1980)…

      Yep, that sounds like my peers. Most of them believe the marketing or are at least convinced enough to indulge. The hold-outs are getting more infrequent.

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      I used to feed AI anything I wrote that I wanted to sound professional to save me time and brain power. Not only do I have no need for that anymore considering I’ve just accepted that my CS degree was truly a waste of my life, but now I realize I’d encourage the building of data centers so now I’m fully radicalized to never use them

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        Dude your CS degree is not a waste. AI is just a tool. Anyone who thinks they can replace their staff with it are in for a rude awakening. I understand how much harder it is to get your foot in the door though. Its not permanent though. I remember when “no code” was going to take the jobs. The job just changes a bit.

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          I’ve been around long enough to have experienced multiple technologies that were the “end” of programmers and yet they still exist.
          As you pointed out, the job changes a bit, but we are still here. When I started, the job was a lot more about compilation. You had to remember exact syntaxes (spelling, letter cases, line continuation, ect) and code optimization. You couldn’t just look up a function name or something like a win32 API by typing part of it into your code editor. You couldn’t even just go to Google and search because Google and the Internet didn’t exist. You had a literal shelf of books next to your desk that were heavily worn and you referenced constantly. Books got handed down from senior programmers to junior programmers. The senior got a new book that wasn’t held together by a rubber band and the junior got a stack of pages, often partially glued together by coffee stains, that contained invaluable notes in the margins.
          Compilers used to be really dumb. Schooling, blogs, articles, ect, these days are all about “readable code”, but for a long time readability wasn’t even in the top 10 or 20 things that you thought about. Just getting the damn thing to compile was easily half of your job and time spent. Schooling and articles spent a massive amount of time discussing optimizations and memory usage. Things like “if else” vs “switch”, which one was actually better and how you could abuse both. Just in case you were wondering, “switch” was king and the “if else” lovers can get go fuck themselves.
          I have seen massive shifts in the industry, and companies will use any excuse to fire everyone useful and eviscerate themselves in the name of short term profits. People used to talk about IBM, HP, Sun, Dell, Compaq, ect, like they talk about Amazon and Facebook now. But those are just brands owned by some new titan that didn’t even exist that long ago.
          CS will come back, it will be a little different, but new companies will rise from the carcasses of all those that tried to replace developers with ai.
          Honestly, given what Facebook is these days, I am more surprised that they still have that many software developers to lay off than I am with the idea that they are laying off people due to AI.

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    Humans are social animals, in the United States especially where people are severely separated- they’ll look for and find any kind of easy access towards social interactions: including but not limited to Chat bots. It’s a sad reality that they would dismiss the negative affects it has on our social brains, dismiss the environmental effects it has on our planet, dismiss the social warmings because they’re too involved with LLMS “AI”.

    That’s right, it’s not even AI; it’s only large language models or some agentic systems. Way smaller ones existed in the past, think Dr. Sbaitso (1992) or A.L.I.C.E. (1995.) it’s actually not hard to make a chat bot, just have it echo what the user says with some key phrases. That’s the whole existence of chat bots and today’s current “ai” only they have a LOT more variables that were generated off of huge randomly generated data sets (both off of free open sources and stolen data) and that’s what causes it to hallucinate: it’s the randomness that humans don’t have the ability to change or update simply because it’s such a huge list of variables. It’s so massive people think it’s real intelligence! PEOPLE WERE FOOLED ON 1990’s CHART BOTS TOO! 😭 😂

    Anywho we recommend the movies Desk Set, Space Odyssey, pi and even Alphaville. They’re related to the subject and they’re pretty good at pointing out the bruhs.

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        If your point was to say “LLMs are good because it can hack into people’s PCs and make the world worse” I think you gotta start setting priorities towards finding some empathy.

        Besides it was not discovered by an LLM or AI. It was discovered by Taeyang Lee, researcher at Theori and then later refined into an exploit chain by the Xint Code Research Team, whom both used an “AI”-assisted analysis. So no LLMs didn’t magically find a decade old exploit, LLMs simply was used as a search function based on its trained module of the past coding assets and the logic bug in the Linux kernel.

        So yeah it’s basically a glorified search function at that point and if you can find peace fucking a search bar- hey man that’s your thing 🤷🏻‍♀️

        Our sources:

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          Holy shit, are you a professional strawman builder? Because you’re really good.

          An LLM helped fix a bug. That’s all we need to know. It’s useful. Saying so has nothing to do with empathy, lack thereof, or robosexuality or whatever the shit kids are in to these days.

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            idk about being a straw-man, but regardless the reply was addressing the misleading and not giving proper credit to the researchers and further giving that LLMs were used for analysis, not full on finding the exploit, so no LLMs aren’t good at finding exploits without clear search inquires by humans.

            As for the empathy and the robo-sexuality- It was the intentional point of the original comment that people find heavy social relation towards LLMs or other objects that are able to communicate back to them. Even in our examples of the movies they touch on romantically/sexual relations towards robots and a couple others point towards the empathy of them as well. PS these are topics from 1950’s not “whatever the shit kids are in to these days.” Most people affected by this are older generations and young adults without social netting.

            Turning it around phrasing that LLMs are useful towards finding exploits makes it sound more like your wanting to use LLMs for using said exploits rather than using LLMs for better use cases. Regardless its still not possible nor ever will be because again LLMs can only use predetermined variables based on its previous learning data set and random variables (PS those random variables that are undesirable are what is commonly called hallucination, its just unwanted variables in a huge spaghetti code.) Its even on the site your sourced:

            “Was this AI-found? AI-assisted. The starting insight — that splice() hands page-cache pages into the crypto subsystem and that scatterlist page provenance might be an under-explored bug class — came from human research by Taeyang Lee.”

            If we misread your interpretation then our mistake, however the phrasing felt more that you were praising AI for finding exploits and not for actual good use and it read out to us like an ethical issue.

            If making this stance clear that LLMs make more harm than good in the case of chat Bots and being used as full on replacements of people makes us a Straw-man than IG we’re a straw-man or whatever lol.

            Though we can probably agree that Machine Learning can, should and have been used since the 1950s as glorified search and calculation engines for complex equations and datasets. They can make really good use for generating and categorizing random protein molecules, find patterns in cancer research and even filter out examples astronomers find in the night sky; however its overall useless without a qualified and passionate researcher who knows their stuff and can double check their ML sifters.

            Sources for the saucy beans:

            ^edit, fixed a bit of formatting lol^

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              The strawman-building is that you’re extrapolating really, really far based on a tiny comment, and so you’re making wild assumptions that aren’t relevant to the conversation. The accusation that I’m hoping to be able to use LLMs to find bugs for nefarious reasons is far out. In fact, ironically, your text reads like something a badly (or maliciously) configured LLM would produce.

              I never claimed that somehow, unprompted, an LLM went out and found a bug. But LLMs are increasingly used as important tools in finding all kinds of problems in code. Going forward, as we get better at how to use these models, more bugs will likely be found. And if we can train other ML models on other kinds of data but with similar size, I think we’d be right to expect a lot.

              I have no doubt that misuse of LLMs and other machine learning models is widespread. The parapsychology aside, I’m worried about how it’s being used in war and targeting, which will only get worse.

              However I think it’s a bit disingenuous to portray LLMs as glorified search engines or autocorrect. It’s not wrong, it’s technically correct, but the utility is way beyond find-and-replace. It’s a bit like calling humans glorified tapeworms. Doesn’t really make for an interesting discussion.

              I also think you’re wrong in asserting that LLMs or other ML models can only be useful for researchers on the edge of their fields. I guess we’ll see.

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    Current AI is unsuitable, but automation of some kind (maybe not AI) will be necessary for a nearly workless future. Life is kind of dumb as is, it’s better if we spent time in the gym, or doing yoga, or learning something, instead of spending life in the pesticide factory, then dying after 3 years of retirement from a horrific disease.

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      We already had (pre-2020) all the automation we needed to work less than 20 hr/wk and produce all the necessarily calories, fresh water, and housing for everyone. But, instead we chose to turn a few people into decabillionaires and continue to bicker over the scrap like we weren’t in a post-scarcity society.

      LLMs, transformers, convolution layers, characteristic tensors, etc. all have some legitimately novel uses, but all the big “AI” product lines are unethically developed, irresponsibly deployed, and dishonestly marketed.

      If you want an ethical chatbot, I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apertus_(LLM) .

      I don’t know of a ethical model that’s good for images or code, yet, but I know people are working on them. The IBM Gemini models are getting close, but I don’t know if IBM will ever get the training data completely “clean” / open / free.

      I’ve been told that StarCoder is an ethically-trained free software model, but some of my research ( https://mot.isitopen.ai/model/StarCoder ) contradicts that assertion, and I’ve not looked into it deep enough to resolve that conflict myself. (IMO, we don’t actually need automated code generation, we need to write less code in better languages with better tests and more reuse; but you may not agree.)

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    So there is a few groups there is the ignorant group, which you are part of evident by your terminology use. When ignorant people do things they tend to be wrong whether that is trusting AI or not trusting AI.

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    OP is baffled by the pro-AI people.

    I’m baffled by the anti-AI people.

    Fundamentally it seems bizarre to judge the quality of, for example, an image or a piece of music, by the process that created it: the proof is in the pudding.

    I’m amazed at what AI is generating…it seems kind of fake to pretend a beautiful image isn’t beautiful when you discover it’s made by AI.

    The arguments against AI are annoyingly reductionist or biased: e.g. focusing on occasional “hallucinations” as if the majority of AI productions aren’t, basically, impressive (or, at least, what was asked for by the user).

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      It reads like a child who’s never had a human interaction in their life and was raised by Elon Musk Stans.

      AI slop is void of any creativity or originality, and the infrastructure required to make it is killing the environment at an unprecedented rate while also poisoning drinking water and driving up costs everywhere.

      But hey, at least your mom got to show you Fruit Love Island on your iPad, I guess.

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        What do you hope to achieve with the personal attacks? You’ll only make me dislike “your side” even more. It only reveals how unpersuasive your position is…if you resort to shaming and insult to bully people into your position.

        You care so much about water waste and the environment…but do you eat meat?

        If so…all of a sudden your “rational justifications for an ethical position you have taken without bias” cease to be coherent with your other lifestyle choices.

        As for “AI Slop” [an obvious propaganda term, designed to be reductionist] and its lack of X, Y and Z: it’s literally drawing on an ocean of X,Y and Z in the first place - the sum total of all X, Y and Z driven human artistic and creative endeavour.

        As with so many political discussions: I suspect this one is pointless. Two sides, both alien to the other. I’m as unlikely to bring you round as you are to bring me around.

        It processes information to generate new (often very beautiful) works: just like human artists.

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          You’ll only make me dislike “your side” even more.

          The fact that you know this, state this, and will do this is exactly why we’re doomed as a species.

          If you know what your lizard brain is doing and that it’s activated, at least have the good sense to not still pretend it’s someone else’s fault.

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            No.

            Being a persuasive communicator and recruiting people to one’s political agenda has never been a matter of pure logic and reason: going around insulting “the other side” will not work.

            Not that anything would: I judge the value of X by X. X could have been made by a sandstorm: if it’s beautiful it’s beautiful.

            A piece of music, for example, is either enjoyable or it isn’t. Admittedly AI music has a way to go yet - but it’s clearly already superior to a percentage of human made music.

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              A piece of music, for example, is either enjoyable or it isn’t.

              Or it grows on you over time and expands your range as a listener.

              But 🤷 you’re just looking for mediocre simulacrums of art anyway, so of course you’re into GenAI “art”.

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      Dude created a brand new account just for this post, because they knew AI is actually fucked up and very unpopular here.

      Is someone paying you to peddle this bullshit propaganda being pushed by the AI billionaires or are you just this dumb and gullible?

      Do billionaire boots taste good?

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        It’s my first 24 hours here. If I could get paid for saying what I believe I’d gladly take the money. But honestly, I’m just a Reddit refugee - and have no idea about the ideological bent of the users of this platform (though I’m quickly learning it’s as hysterical, fanatical and willing to use disingenuous argumentation and rhetoric as those on Reddit).

        My real reason for joining: I’m addicted to having my faith in humanity destroyed by interacting with terrible people on the internet - but got permabanned from Reddit for speaking against Israel on r/Worldnews.

        So thanks for delivering: 24 hours and I’m already being insulted and called a bot because I think AI is impressive and refuse to join the “Everything AI produces has 0% value” nonsense.

        It’s literally got to the point where if I want an actual rationale, balanced, non-hysterical discussion: I go to ChatGPT. If I want an emotionally unpleasant, annoyingly irrational, rhetorically disingenuous and frustrating argument that goes nowhere: I feed my social media addiction instead and talk with a human.

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        The very concept of “hallucination” and the choice of that word in this context shows how retarded the entire debate had become.

        A machine cannot hallucinate because it cannot have an experience.

        The output is either pleasing or displeasing, an accurate and useful response to a request or not. To claim that all AI products are “ugly and useless” is a patently absurd position: were the same thing made by a human a decade ago it would have been deemed as “good, beautiful, useful, and valuable.”

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      This has been going on for decades. Machine learning was used to create new composition based on classical sheet music in the early 2000s. Concert-goers loved it until they found out it was generated.

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        The first sensible thing I’ve read here.

        It’s got to the point where if I want a rational, well-informed, and balanced discussion about anything I’ll just chat with AI.

        If I want an emotionally unpleasant, “us vs then” manipulative, frustratingly one-sided or limited interaction: I’ll go onto social media and find someone to trigger me.

        Didn’t take long on this new platform.

        Ironic I suppose: these people hate AI so much, but everything they type (e.g the manipulative nonsense arguments) illustrates their own inferiority to the AI systems they oppose.

        For me it is, apparently, the unpleasantness of social media discussions that make them so compelling and addictive… otherwise I’d just discuss things with AI.

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      I’m amazed at what AI is generating…it seems kind of fake to pretend a beautiful image isn’t beautiful when you discover it’s made by AI.

      Wow, the USA is such a beautiful country, but it feeds its beauty with someone else’s blood. But yes I agree with you the content is beautiful, no really beautiful. Only the price of this beauty is the future of all humanity (AI will kill us all)

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          It’s not that I know, it’s rather a natural outcome under capitalism, and I’m not the only one who thinks so.

          Although it seems to me that this can be described as a pattern of the universe.

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    It’s usually bots. Unfortunately it’s not easy to moderate them, but if a bot is reported, doesn’t have a bot flag, and says a bunch of pro-ai stuff in addition to the reported activity it’s usually enough evidence to ban. It’s just one of their current tells, I wouldn’t base a ban only on that though. Report when you suspect them though.

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    People have different opinions on AI, not everyone is vehemently opposed, and some view it as useful if used on the appropriate configuration.

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      The big difference for me is that “pro AI” is very different from “recognizing where AI is useful”.

      Can my little Intel B70 help me code faster? Yes. Super helpful.

      Can a cluster help analyze MRIs to catch things doctors don’t? Also yes.

      Can a giant data center replace writing 1MM easy emails while destroying the environment? Yes, but it probably shouldn’t.

      You can recognize value and the importance of regulation at the same time.

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        The problem is that there is a current developing dogma around AI that, because the last example you gave exists, then it must be opposed in all cases. There is a lack of nuance. That is why there may be some “pro-ai” posts, to point out this nuance. The only reason they exist is due to the bias against it as a whole.

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          I’m 100% sure I haven’t seen all the ‘pro ai’ posts, but the ones I have seen are not nuanced. They’re very likely bots, and all-in on, or argumentative for, AI.

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        What part of what I said implies that I want bots to take the place of humans on social networks? What a very strange conclusion to jump to. I just think that AI has some useful applications.

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    Pro-AI people are a small minority in my experience, but are generally overrepresented in the tech geek communities that make up the majority of users on the fediverse. Anecdotally, I think that the vast majority of people are indifferent about AI, some of them may find it to be a novel replacement for web searching, but almost nobody is interested in paying for generative AI (as evidenced by the AI companies hemorrhaging cash). If you were to ask on a more creativity-centric community, you would find that anti-AI sentiment is near ubiquitous amongst the working creative class.

    Sadly, there is a significant number of untalented and brainless fools who use unethical corporate AI models as a crutch to compensate for their lack of real-world skills and relationships.

    But for as many people as there that claim to be pro-AI, you simply don’t see people actively seek out AI-generated art, music, videos, or stories. I would argue that most of the consumers of AI content are people who have been unwittingly duped into reading/watching/listening to it

    For reasons I can’t quite understand, some AI fans are also deluded into believing that AI will somehow usher in a post-capitalist utopia, despite the obvious fact it is only further empowering and enriching the most wealthy tech companies and the oligarchs that control them.

    AI psychosis is a documented problem.

    Finally, pro-AI people are infinitely more likely to use AI to generate spam and proganda in support of their worldview than people who are against it. Are we supposed to believe people that have AI girlfriends are above using AI to write bogus posts and comments?

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      Also, for reasons I can’t quite understand, some AI fans are also deluded into believing that AI will somehow usher in a post-capitalist utopia, despite the obvious fact it is only further empowering and enriching the most wealthy tech companies and the oligarchs that control them.

      Elon Musk is making his typical wild promises again, this time about AI leading to UBI and abundance for everyone … as he makes money from xAI, of course.

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        They are all saying that since someone threatened to molotov Altman’s house, but at the same time they’re doing everything in their power to make sure nothing resembling ubi ever happens.

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      I think the majority of people are pro AI and don’t give it a single thought. Virtually every event poster, restaurant advert and menu I’ve seen lately has been AI generated and people don’t understand why you would point out that the guitarist had three arms.

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        I think it’s more accurate to say that the majority of people are indifferent to AI and that businesses are caught up in the hype of cheap genAI being good enough to replace specialized workers for specific fields like graphic design.

        People use it for certain things that they lack skills in or don’t want to spend effort on but seem to generally see a lot of it as a solution looking for a problem and resent how it’s being forced into everything. Similar to the resentment towards cars moving to put everything on giant touchscreens. The last time I bought a car I was talking to the salesman about how I had no interest in the newer cars with the giant screens and he said that practically everybody that came in said the same thing and that car manufacturers are pivoting back to physical controls because nobody wants the touchscreens. Enough people would rather buy 10+ year old cars than newer models because of the lack of physical controls that it’s forcing car companies to reconsider their push for touchscreens for everything.

        Cell phone companies were quaking in their boots (okay, not really, but you know what I mean) over the fact that even in their own polling they were finding that 50% of users either didn’t use AI features or didn’t find them useful in their day to day phone usage and 30% found it actively made their user experience worse. 20% positive feedback is not a good sign for a healthy market with potential for growth.

        Add in that kids are conflating AI with low-quality and false information. Literally using the term AI when they don’t believe something like the way we used to use Photoshopped or “fake news,” and using “slop” liberally and frequently.

        Even experts in various industries seem to have a weird paradoxical opinion on AI despite being pro AI. There’s been consistent polling that has shown that experts say that AI is good enough to replace people in any given field except for their field of expertise, where it’s too unreliable to ever be able to do the job. It doesn’t matter what the field is, the opinion is the same.

        It’s probably safe to say that people don’t really care one way or another about AI, but dislike the companies involved in the AI bubble.

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        Virtually every event poster, restaurant advert and menu I’ve seen lately has been AI generated

        But why do you care? I don’t get it, when was the last time you cared about how a restaurant advert looked? It either has good food or doesn’t, who cares about their marketing? It has always been fake anyway

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        I agree. It’s lazy and makes me hate it more. I don’t trust a content user doing it.

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      My husband works with it, at an ai company, in an ai data center. He gushes about it 24/7. It’s even getting hard for him to defend.

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    If people weren’t fucking stupid, these scams would eventually stop working.

    What’s it been, 4 years since NFTs? And AI morons are already falling for this shit.

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      I lean anti-AI, but comparing generative AI to NFTs is very strange to me. Even if you didn’t intend to imply any similarity beyond both being scams, surely generative AI is at least a much more compelling scam.

      LLMs can now understand, to some extent, almost any text humans can. They might not be able to reason about it well, but they can at least translate it, summarize it, etc. If you had asked me 10 years ago, I’d have told you there was a near-zero chance of that happening within our lifetimes. NFTs were just “if we put baseball cards on the blockchain, people might buy them because of that same quirk of psychology.”

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        Transformers are like blockchain: an interesting use of mathematical principles to solve certain problems in a novel way, where the hype around that core attracts charlatans and scammers and combinations of the two traits who claim that it will go on to solve totally different problems in such a way as to revolutionize the world we live in.

        NFTs were the end of that line for blockchain where the machine started to eat itself. I can see a future, stable use of blockchain in some limited contexts, but cryptobros have always overstated the contexts in which that particular type of digital ledger can be more useful than other types of digital ledgers.

        We’ll see where the end of the road is for transformers, and what’s left at the end. I believe that computer inference will always be useful in some contexts, and that the advances in huge models with absurdly large numbers of parameters have unlocked some previously impractical tasks, but I could also see that settling into a general background existence as just another technological tool for doing things in a world that still looks pretty similar to the world today.