Cannibalism? Hadn’t heard that part before.
My son talks about it all the time. Apparently they had codes and some of them were for eating babies.
I’m sure all of it conjecture or the Internet going wild.
I’ve seen fucked up shit come out from them but absolutely nothing that is going to bring anyone down in court.
Viewing justice as the punishment of the guilty is conservatism 101.
The real failure is that no legislation, law-enforcement, or court action has been taken to address why billionaires can snatch little girls off the street. The real failure is that rape is barely even illegal in the US, and it’s viewed as right and proper when powerful men have access to little girls the same way their wealth provides them with access to all rare and desirable objects.
This isn’t because our leaders are sick, it’s because our society is. These men didn’t steal our daughters, we sold them out, cheap. No amount of Presidents in prison will change that.
well let’s try putting a president in prison to test your theory in the meantime.
All right, how do you suggest we proceed?
*in the US. Norway has charged Thorbjørn Jagland and in the UK Peter Mandelson and the Andrew formerly known as Prince were arrested, plus a number of other countries have criminal investigations ongoing. All so far for corruption rather than sex crimes but that’s probably a function of what’s easier to prove in court.
Andrew formerly known as Prince
Iirc, that was for sharing state secrets, not for being a pedophile rapist.
On the one hand, whatever sticks. On the other, WHY can’t we somehow make child sex trafficking charges stick?
Because when the top people presiding over sex trafficking cases look in the mirror, they find 14 year old girls attractive too.
Because money and power are more important to people making decisions than doing things for the betterment of society.
Sadly the best people to lead are usually people who don’t want positions of power like that.
Not that anyone in the “royal” family did literally anything to get where they are…
the Andrew formerly known as Prince
this gave me a good chuckle
Andy was released after 11 hours. The british “police” keep tradesmen in jail longer for having a utility knife on them.
Im going to hell for laughing at that Prince joke.
No you’re not.
I’m going to hell because I can’t find my wallet I think I left it there
Oh, cool. Do you also go to hell in the winter to escape the cold? I go every year
Don’t worry, they’ll get to it once the Panama Papers are dealt with 😎👍
Excuse me, cannibalism!?
The released files contain the anonymous tips people sent in, including ones sent after Epstein became public knowledge. This tip was likely fake (or at least the fading embers of my faith in humanity hope it is), but we’ll never know for sure due to the DOJ’s refusal to investigate any of it.
It’s good that they don’t investigate it now. They’d just bury anything they want and purposefully do a bad job. If a shred of normalcy ever returns to the White House then it can be investigated properly
You mean like when Biden was in power?
Silly Biden - back then it was presumed that the president shouldn’t interfere with investigations like that. They should be done apolitically, and independently.
Communications use shortcuts. You didn’t define what “return to normalcy” was and I didn’t put restrictions on what that meant. After the first trump presidency, there was already a “return to normalcy” in which the US government was in stable enough hands to do all that, and nothing happened.
I wasn’t saying that “Biden needed to personally handcuff trump and put him behind bars” I was saying “the US already returned to a state of normalcy where the correct investigation could have happened and justice dealt, however this was not done.”
Trump was still firmly in control of the Republican Party and Miller still held the reins.
Then it sounds like their control of government and power is what is ‘normal’.
the fading embers of my faith in humanity
I feel seen.
As I heard it, literal newborn infant cannibalism.
There’s straight up emails and texts of him questioning chefs about it they can make “shrimp” in all the colors, the potential chefs are disgusted by “shrimp” but think it could be worth the money. Shrimp is their term for fetus.
Also let’s not forget about the jerky and all the people who just absolutely had to have more like it was a crack addiction and how they couldn’t get more jerky when Epstein was “trying to get back on normal food”.
And given how literally everything the right says is projection, it matches up completely with the shit they were accusing Hillary Clinton of
Well, Bill isn’t an innocent man either.
Then lock him the fuck up. What is confusing about this for you?
The US sure as shit has the jails and prison space. Heck, I bet the US might even have enough judges, cops, and prosecutors to arrest and try 2, or maybe even more, geriatric pedophiles at the same time.
WhatAboutBillism
I wasn’t the one who brought up Hilary
Ya don’t say
That shouldnt be as shocking as it is compared to the other things…but it is
They’re literally a Satanic cult pretending to be Christians.
Imagine being P. Diddy, lol. I’d be so salty.
To be clear before I say this, I hope Diddy rots and he definitely did that shit in my opinion and more folks(Kevin Hart for example) should be punished for their involvement, but it’s really the most darkly hilarious example of systemic racism, that he’s the mass rapist/sex trafficker/abuser getting sent away forever, meanwhile to my knowledge, nobody accused anyone of eating a baby at Diddys parties, but the rich white folks that allegedly raped and ate babies are getting elected president
“Democracy won’t save you” was cut off.
What does Z.E.R.O stand for?
I think they were using the technique of adding periods for emphasis:
AS. IN. THE. CASE. OF. NORMAL. SENTENCES.
They must have missed that that’s not the way you’d emphasize a word by spelling it, and should instead have typed Z-E-R-O.
The DOJ does suck, and Epstein (and Maxwell) were horrific rapists and sex trafficers. However, the files don’t prove a widespread conspiracy, they instead prove what we already knew, that people in power are shitty people, who look the other way, and readily associate with deeply immoral criminals, just to gain influence and network. All this shit about a widespread cannibal cabal makes you look disturbed and conspiratorial, instead of facing the much less crazy, but arguably just as sad facts.
The released files literally include correspondence where Epstein is directing the conspiracy theories that Qanon/Rogan/4chan ended up pushing. And the rest of the files confirm that the conspiracies pushed were just admitting what he and his friends were doing but blame other people.
I don’t think that’s correct, maybe I’m wrong but the files released so far at least don’t include that. Regardless, I’m not disputing that he and his friends did horrific things, might as well have blamed them on others. I am just saying that extrapolating that to a large scale conspiracy with the active participation of the number of people suggested is super unlikely. This is in no way meant to defend anyone involved with Epstein, they are despicable ghouls who should suffer the consequences of their actions.
However, the files don’t prove a widespread conspiracy, they instead prove what we already knew, that people in power are shitty people, who look the other way, and readily associate with deeply immoral criminals, just to gain influence and network.
Right, it just proves there’s a widespread group of people who came together and came to an agreement about the crimes they were committing and how they would get away with it. Hmmmmmmm, I wonder what a word for that would be…
conspiracy /kən-spîr′ə-sē/
nounAn agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
Huh, would you look at that, it WAS a conspiracy!
I just don’t believe there was a large, organized group of people doing cannibalism and such. It is extremely unlikely that such a conspiracy would exist for a sustained period of time.
No I think I’ve spent the last 10-20 years listening to right wing pundits push crazier and crazier conspiracy theories.
I don’t give a fuck what the right thinks. They can release the Epstein Files and prove all of this wrong in an instant, they haven’t — so they’re cannibals.
Why would the right’s crazy conspiracy theories influence reality? I get the projection narrative, but just mirroring what a crazy person says does not necessarily make it not crazy.
You cannot reason someone into a position they did not reason themselves into. What they think and how they feel does not matter, because they aren’t the ones in control of it.
I am not mirroring a crazy person, I am shining a light on their crazy. If they’d like to set the record straight they’re more than welcome to, but the ball is in their court.
Because of the cannibalism, of course.
Edit: oh, and I know exactly how it influences reality — did you see what happened recently to vaccine mandates in the U.S.? We reduced the number of childhood vaccines from 17 to 11. The specific vaccines are: respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), hepatitis A, hepatitis B, dengue, meningococcal ACWY and meningococcal B. They’ve cited that only children in high risk categories should get these vaccines.
If that isn’t evidence of crazy conspiracy theories affecting reality I don’t know what is.
Thanks for the correction, you’re right, crazy conspiracy theories do affect reality in that way. I meant affecting reality in a way where, no matter how many people say vaccines cause autism, it won’t make it reality. So by that example, no matter how much the right was ‘projecting’ about cannibalism and other stuff, that by itself is not proof, or proof of the contrary.
defending billionaires is also cuck flex
I don’t think I’ve defended billionaires, their existence is inherently immoral, regardless of whether they are cannibals or not. Also, I don’t appreciate the ad hominem remark. I was just engaging in the discourse, as I am interested in how misinformation and conspiratorial ideas develop and propagate.
We found the shill!
I’m no shill, just a skeptic. I get the righteous anger, I hate everything about the people involved too, we just disagree on what, in the grand scheme of things, are insignificant details.
