is there any reason to think they’ve stopped?
And they say they can’t catch criminals if end to end encryption exists. All this was over email in plaintext with their primary addresses.
You’re not distinguishing between “can’t” (e2e) and “won’t” (the obscenely rich).
they know, but some of us are above the law and it shows… clearly.
This Right Here!
Anyone remember the Panama papers?
It’s crazy how much corruption is on full display. I guess that’s one of the only positive things about the internet lately. We can see the whole world is going through it. All the time.
The internet has also made a suziable part of the population billionaire defenders.
We just need to hope that when the time comes, ALL the pawns turn around.
That journalist in Malta does.
Or she would have, had she not been murdered with a car bomb.
Putin was all over those. But we went straight into a Russian Reset under Obama, regardless.
Almost as though corruption is a feature, not a bug
You see why they rather bomb Iran than deal with the Epstein case
And we see only the tame half of the Epstein files. The other 3 mil have not been released
Exactly. It’s not random, they keep the worst, most damaging parts redacted or unreleased…
Advocating for them (the government, whatever team they happen to be on) acting on the Epstein files is like asking a toddler nicely to punish themselves. It is not in their best interest to do so, because it hurts their main benefactor, the owning class. The only way to have a shot at this happening is if the government is no longer owned by the owning class. To get there, you’d need to get rid of a number of things:
- the threat of capital flight (“if you do something I don’t like, I will take my gizmo factory elsewhere”)
- the ability of the owning class to shape the opinions of the electorate through owning the media (social and legacy) they consume
- the ability of the owning class to legally bribe politicians (“if you do this thing I like, you will get a cushy job at my gizmo factory, or I’ll pay you 500k to talk at my event for an hour”, also super PACs)
Until you get rid of all this, no one (on any side of the aisle) will ever do anything about the epstein files, no matter how many parades/protests you do. Your collective votes do not weigh up against the three points I mentioned. See also the Panama papers.
Oh and voting doesn’t work to fix the three points, because the three points ensure that most candidates (on either side of the aisle) do not benefit from doing anything about them, and the ones that do don’t have much of a shot at winning (see point 2).
If everyone is on the same evil side, overthrow the government already. Why wait?
Democraps definitely havent been trying to pass positive legislation for decades and succeeded some of the time. Theyre the exact same!
Now let me go snort some glass and coke!
Oh shit yeah you’re right, I forgot about the democrats! I love how they advocate for universal health care in their campaigns, as well as workers rights, and anti war stuff. Remember when Harris said she actually didn’t like fracking? Man those guys really care about the environment. I really loved how they didn’t send billions in military aid to a nation committing a genocide. Oh and remember when they reinstated roe v wade? Man that was heroic. Personally, I’ll never forget when Biden released the Epstein files and prosecuted the people involved in the pedophile sex ring, similarly to when Obama acted on the Panama papers and curbed billionaire tax evasion. Thank God these guys never bailed out any banks. Very glad they’re on our side, and clearly not beholden entirely to corporate interests.
This totally justifies Trump 😄
I don’t understand why you would say this. Could you explain?
When you have an unfortunately biased 2 party system, you can choose the formless weird airline food or the pile of glass and barbed wire. You are suggesting that we do nothing at all, or just not vote, which helps glass barbedwire burger-man.
We can progress out of shit soup, but we are headed toward fascism. We just need to get rid of Dumpling first. Dumpling, then AIPAC and replace congress, and eventually the presidency. Throwing a fit and being cool with a worse (now potentially unstoppable) option doesnt make you morally superior or anything of the sort. Leopards, meet face.
Man why am I even arguing with a bad faith arguing bot, tf is wrong with me.
Not a single investigation
Why would the blue republicans investigate the red republicans?
This country is so fucked
Is it just “this country”?
I mean outside of America people have lost their jobs and their titles and potentially jail time due to appearing in the files. You can argue it’s not enough but I will stress outside of America there has been some semblance of accountability.
In America absolutely nothing has happened. Nothing. Speaks volumes of the nation.
The emperor is without his clothes. We all see it.
yep
Not just 'Murica, but unfortunately the civilised world gets dragged into their stupidity and bullshit
Not exactly - congressional investigations are going on, but processes IRL don’t produce results in 22 minutes like on TV. It doesn’t work like, “We see you’re in the files, welcome to jail.”
Dude it’s been like a decade since this stuff hit the front page of the news, come the fuck on with the shitty apologism
Epstein himself was indicted more like 20 years ago. The 22 minute TV show reference was overly sarcastic, but I’m not an apologist for anyone. The justice system is just excruciatingly slow. My belief is that Bonespurs will probably dodge all consequences by having his final Big Mac Attack. With him gone, his coattail riders will probably start backstabbing each other and maybe then we’ll see some action.
This isn’t a “justice is slow” problem. This is a “the justice system only serves to punish the poor and powerless” problem.
The fact of these files is they were in the hands of the FBI and prosecutors 20 years ago. Nothing happened as a result even though there appears to be dozens of individuals capable of being charged with crimes. That’s 20 years of incriminating evidence just sitting around collecting dust because it’d be politically inconvenient to pursue charges.
Justice moves rapidly when a power tripping cop wants to ruin you life. It moves very slowly when a rich pedophile rapes children.
if some random guy from the streets did the things on the files to someone, how slow would the justice system be then?
Right? If it were a poor person they’d have zero qualms about putting them in jail while sorting it all out too. There is nothing that can disguise that our ‘justice’ system exists almost entirely to suppress the poor and enable the rich.
Depends - was it a random guy you caught doing those things or a random guy whose name you found in an email? Somehow people seem to think this should be as slam dunk as catching a bunch of anime bad guys with EVIL stamped on their foreheads.
I prefer a slow justice system that gets the criminals for their crimes than a quick one that drags innocent people into an undeserved situation.
Me too. I think the people screaming for immediate mob justice and willing to handwave its sloppy inaccuracy is more about anger than ethics.
Can someone please enlighten me on the fucking cannibalism?
So remember how maga thinks that Hillary was farming kids for something apparently called adrenochrome in their blood ?
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/pseudoscience/qanons-adrenochrome-quackery
Well…it’s always projection, every time.
I have not read any of the files yet, but I have been told they include unsubstantiated and un-investigated reports, some of which may be “trolling” and not even attempt to contain any truth.
That said, cannibalism is, IMO, a lesser moral failing than what the victim reported (and continue to support).
I read a bit of the stuff from the tip line. Some of it is very raw, and that’s putting it nicely. Like, I had a neighbor who was troubled by delusions. Some sounded spot on like that, a story that wasn’t just absolutely wild, but didn’t fit with some known facts.
Let’s just say, not everyone who went to that island made it out… alive
Most likely codename for drugs, “jerky” for something or other. It just takes away attention from the real crime of raping underage people. Yeah, maybe some got raped to death, but that don’t mean anyone ate them.
the USA is the most corrupt country on earth I am curious as to why anyone is surprised. Donald Trump is literally in charge of enforcing the laws there.
Cannibalism? Hadn’t heard that part before.
There were a few emails from people asking epstein for some of his jerky. Annoyed replies saying that the supply of jerky given them should have lasted longer. Then an email from Maxwell saying something to the effect of “there will be no more jerky for a while, Mr. Epstein has decided to return to normal food.”
I do not know in what other context that could have possibly been other than cannibalism.
And more! There’s a Rothschild couple emailing about hunting humans something to the tune of “…bagged one and guess what?! They’re n*ggers!”
Weird for them to censor that word given what they were saying.
I didn’t want to get caught in auto filters. Lemmy isn’t typically like that but I feel no need to play with the hard R right now.
I thought it was just part of the quote, sorry.
I mean, it could be coded to refer to anything illegal as far as that goes.
I have my doubts because or the normal food bit of that email.
Jerky might = kids, normal food = legal sex
“Adrenochrome” nonsense intensifies
Unless the weirdo decided to try a Slim Jim diet lol
My son talks about it all the time. Apparently they had codes and some of them were for eating babies.
I’m sure all of it conjecture or the Internet going wild.
I’ve seen fucked up shit come out from them but absolutely nothing that is going to bring anyone down in court.
I don’t understand why you people are still talking about courts.
There are 8 billion of us, minimum.
Peter thiel drinking babys blood because “longevity” dude is evil incarnate
Unlike that more civilized rich idiot who transfuses his son’s blood in a desperate but futile effort to stay young forever.
Rich people are a different kind of crazy.
at least there was some sort of consent
Here’s a video about the cannibalism part, I seriously can’t imagine it being anything else than that.
(Graphic warning content. No fucked up images of audio, just the ideas and images you get when he’s going through everything. Don’t watch if you’re even a bit unsure if you can handle it).
Yeah, maybe I’m being dense, but I don’t see any cannibalism evidence presented in that video. After watching it, I’m even less concerned something like that might have happened.
I’m all for believing they raped underage people. Teens, preteens, kids. I can believe that. But these “jerky” things are so fucking lazy, it’s just drugs. It’s a lazy codename for drugs. And the stupid chickenleg picture is just some old art project photo from Spain or whatever country it was.
Most of those people are currently government officials in different countries around the world and they see Americans aren’t bothered by their high ranking criminals so they don’t bother with their own.
Where is cannibalism mentioned?
There’s a restaurant called “Cannibal” mentioned, with “beef jerky” being one of their spotlighted food. There’s also more references to jerky. https://youtu.be/ghUNyJzLkfE
Sounds like a regular beef jerky fan club. I see nothing wrong here.
I think it’s weird for beef jerky to be “the only thing I eat”, but I know people that do the “carnivore diet” and that’s supposed to be meat-only.
Maybe it is code for some illicit item that you might measure in pounds and consume, but I don’t think that’s obvious or certain.
Its definitely code. Either drugs or children.
So… you have any (additional) evidence to contribute? With the evidence I’ve seen I don’t think “Its definitely code” is “obvious or certain”.
Nope.
