• funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    from my friend who’s a stand-up

    men will criticize women for not knowing the bands on their t-shirts but will wear floral patterns without being able to identify any of the flowers

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    5 days ago

    As someone who grew up on Nirvana I’m in no place to gatekeep fashion. My clothes back then were so fucking big that gusts of wind picked me up like a kite. I had an empty wallet CHAINED to my belt for fucks sake.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    I work a lot of college events, and I see a lot of vintage band shirts, with Dark Side of the Moon the most common. I always ask if they heard the album, and they say Yes only about 20% of the time, so I tell them that their homework assignment is to go home and listen to it tonight, and that it will change their life.

    One girl was wearing a Metallica shirt, and she very enthusiastically said she LOVED them, because her Dad always plays them in the car. I could tell it was a genuine loving connection she had with her Dad over Metallica. Truly beautiful.

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      yet, wearing a band shirt implicates interest. imagine talking to sb using that as a lead and them being clueless. At least have a story why you’d wear a bands shirt you dont know (its my brothers etc.)

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        yet, wearing a band shirt implicates interest. At least have a story why you’d wear a bands shirt you dont know (its my brothers etc.)

        Absolutely not. I don’t even know what band I’m wearing the logo off, it just looked nice :)

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        Nah. Eat an ass. I’m wearing it because nirvana is my favorite clothing brand.

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        Wearing a sports jersey implicates interest as well but I won’t expect someone wearing a Buffalo Bills jersey to name our third string depth corner.

        I’d rather be excited someone actually has interest in something I do rather than gatekeep that interest. I’d love to talk about the player depth of the Buffalo Bills with someone who only knows who Josh Allen is. It makes me happy sharing something I love and it will make them a bigger fan than they were yesterday.

        If your entire fandom is based on knowing everything about it, you’re the piece of shit.

        You started your fandom on something from nothing. There was a time you didn’t know a single song of the band you love, or a player on the team you watch. You didn’t know shit about it and now you do. Do the same for others and help them learn more, not be the school test on their knowledge.

      • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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        Exactly. Gatekeeping exists for the purpose of bouncing predators and Nazis who front the idea of belonging and allyship from gaining access to the scene under false pretenses. I’d wager everyone of us has at some point worn a shirt, patch, or pin of some band we liked because of the design or the vibe but weren’t able to recite their entire catalog from memory. Hell, some of the bands fuck up trying to play their own deep cuts and B-sides years later.

    • LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip
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      4 days ago

      Don’t be mad, this joke is so old and tired that a sunagogue considered it safe to tweet in 2021

  • Windex007@lemmy.world
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    This type of nonsense actually kills the thing you’re trying to protect. What are you trying to prove? That some kid doesn’t know the songs? Sure, you know you’re right… but why milk it? Just say “come as you are” and share your passions with others.

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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      I wouldn’t have been able to name the songs as a kid, even if I knew them. For example, growing up listening to my parents’ radio, I already loved the Beatles, Steely Dan, the Doobie Brothers, etc. - I could sing a lot of their songs, but didn’t have the connection to the artists in my brain yet. I just knew, “Oh hey, it’s that song I like.” Only when I got older and started building my own music collection did I start to connect the musician names and song names to the songs.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case for kids in band T-shirts. Their parents bought them the shirt. Their parents probably play that musician’s music around their kid. The kid can like the music, wear the shirt, but still be unable to “name three songs” by the artist just because that information hasn’t come together for them yet.

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      Yeah, this is such a dumb territorial pissings. Just dive into good music before you get an aneurism. Moist vagina!

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    I appreciate the anti-gatekeeping sentiment here, but I can’t reconcile that with the judgment I think we’d have for someone wearing a Che Guevara shirt without knowing who he was.

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    I’m not going to gatekeep this but I will be sad when the conversation goes “cool {band} shirt! You ever listen to their live stuff?” and they go “what? It’s a band?”

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    Oh, you’re a Nirvana fan? Name every person Courtney Love has killed with a Shotgun to the face.

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      Should I just not save him when he ODs next, like the multiple other times I saved him previously?

      Nah better shoot him in the face with a shotgun that he procured from a friend, after he suddenly absconds from rehab. A gun he got after all his other guns were seized by the police when I called them the last time he locked himself in a room with guns.

      Genius play by Courtney. Kill the suicidal drug addict before they kill themselves.

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          I wouldn’t know, because I know her as well as I knew Kurt, that is, pretty much not at all. For whatever it’s worth I used to buy into her being responsible too and wouldn’t be convinced by some internet random otherwise.

          That aside, as I mentioned, if Courtney wanted him dead, she had (and would continue to have had) ample opportunity to do so in a manner that wouldn’t implicate herself. She saved his life, multiple times, from OD’ing. Including directly injecting him with naloxone to resuscitate him. His guns were seized twice in the 10 months before his suicide, again because locked himself in his room with his guns and she rang the police saying he was suicidal. The guy was talking about killing himself for years before that day. None of his band mates were surprised by it, nor were the majority of people that knew him well. Police twice ruled it suicide, both at the time and ten-ish years ago.

          Halfway through the European tour, I remember saying I’ll never go on tour again until I have this fixed because I wanted to kill myself. I wanted to fucking blow my head off. I was so tired of it.

          He had a family history of suicide, was diagnosed with bipolar, ADHD and had an out of control drug addiction that spanned for years. All the signs point one way.

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    I can’t even name the bands or titles of songs I regularly listen to. Some of us just listen to music to enjoy it, not to score fact points with music nerds.

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    One other problem with naming Nirvana songs is that their titles are often not words from the chorus like most mainstream songs.

    I think most people who know Nirvana could name Smells like teen spirit even though it’s not in the lyrics. I suspect people could name Come as you are, since it’s the first lyric of the song.

    But after that, I guess it might be Heart shaped box?

    With Nirvana, when you really want to hear that one song and you go look it up, you always think, okay, what’s the song name? “Yeah!”? That can’t be right. And then you have to go through some process to pry it out of your memory until you remember it’s Lithium.

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      I recently learned that The Man Who Sold the World was actually a David Bowie song. Naturally, since it’s in the lyrics.

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      That was my thought too. Nirvana pops up on my playlists fairly regularly, but I doubt I could have listed 3 of their songs and I grew up with that shit. Reading your post was a few iterations of “Oh yeah, that’s what that song is called!”

      Gimme the hum test any day though!

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        Yup. I could probably sing along to about 10 Nirvana songs, and even knowing the words to them I might know the names of two of them.

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    There’s some truth to the joke though - a while ago one of the fast fashion brands, I think it was H&M, created a line of fake bands just to put on t-shirts and other things. It’s pretty sad.

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    And he’s mumblin’

    And he’s screamin’

    Cause he can’t name

    What they’re singing!

    Let him wear shirts,

    They don’t wanna.

    Even cool bands

    Like Nirvana!