They are gonna remove games in future like they did with the movies
They already have lol.
Licensed titles are different. Unless they’ve done that for non-licensed titles.
Kindle literally removed 1984 from people’s devices
That was a case where the seller literally didn’t have the rights to the book. If you search for the title today you’ll find a version that is listed as the Authorized Orwell Edition.
Not the same as what I was referring to. Video games based on licensed IPs, often get taken down from digital game stores because the publisher’s license has ended. What you described with 1984 is someone who shouldn’t be selling the media, having sold it. Sure, it sucks if the title disappeared from your device but maybe that was the only legal resolution?
Conveying something to someone in perpetuity (i.e. “selling” it to them) when you don’t have the right to do so is fraud. Just because Amazon or whoever’s right to continue offering the thing ended doesn’t mean their customers’ property rights somehow end with it.
It’s exactly as absurd as a car dealer stealing back all the cars they previously sold just because they ended their agreement with the manufacturer.
There is absolutely no sane world in which stealing your customers’ property could ever be the “only legal resolution!”
Sometimes the license for the music in games expires and developers/publishers just remove it from the games.
That, by itself, is absolutely outrageous and absurd. The game developer’s failure to license the music appropriately is between them and the music copyright holder; nothing gives them the right to steal the content back from the third parties they conveyed it to in perpetuity.
Agreed, licensing for anything like that in game should be required to be permanent. Only exception I can possibly think of is live service games where the content cycles out of availability.
I wouldn’t argue just that it should be; I would argue that it is and we have a massive problem with the FTC failing to enforce existing law.
I think it will no longer be available as an option.
I will be buying no more PlayStations then.
Same.
Xbox is pushing the same thing with gamepass, Nintendo lowered their digital games pricing to match/go lower than physical media. Everything is going that way.
If buying is not owning, piracy is not stealing
This is such a great quote.
But if you read the fine print, you are not buying these games, you are entering into a subscription to them. Paying a one-time fee to subscribe to the games indefinitely. That’s why it feels like buying.
That’s how they getcha.
So it’s almost like buying is not owning?
Almost, but not exactly.
And look, I’m not saying its defensible, I’m just saying that they technically trick us into subscribing, and thus we can’t technically say we’re buying these games. So, GOG ❤️
Honestly, if I have to go digital, my money is going to Valve
Valve and GOG.
Better to Gog, atleast you own what you buy
Fun fact: Some Steam games are also DRM-free
Stop spreading this lie.
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-GOG-User-Agreement?product=gog
2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a ‘license’) to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this license in some situations, which are explained later on.
This refers to downloading, after you donwload the DRM Free Game from Gog there is no license or online check forever, the game is just yours.
You can also do that on Steam, that doesn’t make it any less piracy.
Not that there is anything wrong with that, but let’s stop pretending that GOG is somehow better than Steam.
Nobody is saying you cannot do on Steam, the big difference is that you can do that on 100% of Gog games, on Steam only on a very small percentage.
And there are other noticeable difference, on Steam you have to go through the file and backup them, on Gog you get the drm free installer for the last version of the game and any previous version that you want.
Is clear to me that on this regard Gog is much better than Steam, would be crazy to say otherwise.
on Steam only on a very small percentage.
citation needed
I will no longer be offering money to receive playstation games. 🤷♂️
Fair
If they could be trusted to treat digital copies as actual ownership, this wouldn’t be such a big deal.
Sony I already didn’t intend to buy the next game console, you don’t have to keep trying to push me away.
“It will be over $1000.”
“Ew, no thanks!”
“But wait, there’s more! You also won’t be able to buy games used or trade them with friends!”
My main problem with this is I can’t sell or trade a digital game after I’m done with it. This needs to be
feltdelt with legally.I like being able to share a disc with friends. Or get one from the library. They kill that, they’re making a hell of lot of enemies.
I feel you but I’m no lawyer.
For real, every jurisdiction needs to extend the first sale doctrine to digital media
At this rate why sell hardware to people anymore? Might as well rip the bandaid and make it a cloud-gaming device.
Many people will tolerate digitally distributed games, but not subscriptions
The concept that not everyone has big internet or even good enough might be super strange for these C-level people.
I don’t think they care about those markets (even though they could make a lot of money out of them)
So is that market the last $1 billion still buying physical? A graph was passed around showing sales are down from an $11 billion peak in 2009 nearly 20 years ago.
I wonder how much of that last billion is Switch. I assume physical sales are higher there. But I might be way off.
Even with physical media you have to download large packages of data to start playing the game
So. They have chosen death.
The majority of people do not care.
Then the majority of people will get shafted. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.
Unfortunately. The market chose convenience over consumer rights. We no longer own anything and can have it taken away at any time.
They were already getting shafted, by your definition, as they were already buying digital only games.
Well exactly.
Oh no! Anyway…
EDIT: Just to be clear, I am not dismissing OP. I’m saying “fuck Sony” and “this would be a good time to convert to PCmasterrace or go retro”
Cool. If thats the case I will no longer be offering Playstation my money for games.
So don’t buy a fucking Playstation.
This isn’t that hard to sort out.
I already have one because they were the best platform when it came to actually owning your games.
At least the digital-only playstations will be really cheap… Right?
And the games, too, since there are no shipping or packaging costs!
Am not surprised given how large games today can be. You can have a disk to launch the game when you first get it, but chances are the Playstation will still have to “update” it with the full resources…
I don’t have a playstation, but FFS, I can’t even get the full Halo: Master Chief Collection onto my gaming PC - I just don’t have the drive space. Some game packages are huge today.
It’s this or go back to multi disc installs. Modern discs have 100GB capacity so Halo MCC would be on two. The largest games, like the modern Call of Duty amalgamation-launcher-thing and ARK, would push over 3 discs. I for one wouldn’t mind – it at least keeps the fantasy of owning game media alive, just a little bit – and I wish updates and patches weren’t so damn mandatory.
So that’s a console game setup, yes?
I use an older PC so everything is backed up on a storage drive but currently right now I’m stuck with a 500 GB SSD to run the games I’m actively playing. It’s nowhere near enough space for what I want to do. Ugh. Am waiting to see when I can get my mitts on a 4TB WD Gold drive (I have two on my MacPro systems) and slap that into the PC for the storage and then get a similar sized SSD (or an NVME drive in an adapter) to use.
I think when I get that sorted I’m also going to switch up to running Bazzite for the games and bail on the Win 10 Pro…
Patiently waiting for the bubble to burst.
So am I…
Personally I’ve got a mix - I have most Call of Duty games on Xbox, buying on the same platform as the ones I had in childhood, but have largely dropped the console for my PC running EndeavourOS. My biggest game is a bit of a cheat - Clone Hero - 550GB aha!
Good luck with the upgrade! I have a 4TB HDD, a WD Blue from 2017, and am hoping to upgrade to an NVME SSD before the drive dies of old age. looks at the component market Before I do.
I recommend Seagate Ironwolf Pro or any CMR/HAMR storage for the best balance of capacity, price and lifespan.
Ack! No one has the 4TB Ironwolf Pro drives!
This is bullshit.
F’ckin’ datacenter pricks.
Yeah I feel you. It’s hurting all of us, seeing parts at over double the price they’re worth or simply out of stock. I heard that after taking all the DDR5 RAM they went after HDDs.
These are my notes on components I was looking at, dated
Motherboard
ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi (1.3x base)
- Base £250
- £320 in 02/2026
CPU
AMD Ryzen Zen 6 10700X3D?
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X (1.1x base)
- Base £250
- £280 in 03/2026
RAM
Corsair Vengeance / LPX - DDR5, 6800MT/s, CL32, 2x32GB (4.6x base)
- Base £230 / £3.60/GB
- £290 in 10/2025
- £1,050 in 03/2026
- £480 used
Depressing compromise RAM
Corsair Vengeance DDR5, 5600MT/s, CL40, 2x16GB
- £270 used
Note: RAM in current build was £170 for 2x16GB in Feb 2017, equivalent to £230 in Jan 2026
Games SSD
WD Black SN850X 8TB (2.4x base)
- Base £450
- £700 in 01/2026
- £1,060 in 03/2026
OR Samsung 9100 Pro 8TB
OS & Program SSD
Samsung 990 Pro 4TB (1.7x base)
- Base £260
- £315 in 01/2026
- £440 in 03/2026
Fans
Noctua 140mm x 8
- Base £264
- £264 in 02/2026
Case
NZXT H6 Flow (1.1x base)
- Base £80
- £90 in 02/2026
PSU
Corsair HX1200i Platinum (2025) (1.2x base)
- Base £210
- £245 in 03/2026
- Purchased for £200 new
GPU (1.3x base)
Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB (1.3x base)
- Base £700
- £900 in 03/2026
- Purchased for £520 used
Hypothetical:
High Capacity HDD
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 20TB, 7200RPM, CMR (1.3x base)
- Base £480
- £510 in 02/2026
- ST20000NT001
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 24TB
Xbox Expansion SSD
- Seagate 2TB
- £200 in 02/2026 (for standard 2TB Seagate NVME)
- Purchased for £267 new
Notes
base = ~Sep/Oct 2025, just before hell
RAM eBay Sellers ~ 2x base
