• whereitsat@lemmy.zip
    123·
    10 days ago

    think about how many industries and personalities are propped up because america conceals the simple reality of losing weight: a calorie deficit. like, so much wealth depends on people not being able to comprehend obvious text on the back of a package.

    • Cease@mander.xyz
      141·
      10 days ago

      The reality is the majority of all healthy food in the US is gated behind high prices, forcing the average/low income consumer into eat foods high in large amounts of globally banned dyes and syrups, which results in massive weight gain unless you buy into the weight loss meds, unless you want to do something crazy like eat beans and rice for every meal.

      this + all the hostile city planning preventing you from walking anywhere means that it’s both very easy to gain weight and very hard to lose it once you have it

      Anyway, this is a harder problem to solve than dumb gotchas like “why don’t americans just exercise more, why don’t americans just calorie watch”

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        81·
        10 days ago

        Vegetables are not that “gated.” Processed foods that are “health washed” are gated, the stuff that’s in the health food sections or organic sections of stores. The problem is with fresh food is that it cannot always be consumed before spoiling, and waste is painful if you’re poor, processed foods are quick and easy when you’re working 2-3 jobs and are shelf stable for much longer periods, and on top of that people just don’t always learn how to cook fresh or do things like meal prep for a week. The time just isn’t there.

        Yeah, the shopping access part is true. I frequently make 2-3 trips to the store for meals in a week thanks to close-by stores and the convenience of a vehicle. If you’re poor and maybe have to take public transportation (in the US) it makes groceries a whole other chore you don’t have time for.

      • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
        31·
        9 days ago

        The reality is the majority of all healthy food in the US is gated behind high prices

        Seems so odd to me, here in the UK some of the cheapest foods are things like carrots, potatoes, beans, oats. Things that people should be eating more of.

        Don’t have enough time is the next excuse I hear. I just made lunch in seconds by combining the free milk at work with some roughly ground oats. Along with some dried fruit. Incredibly cheap meal and takes far less time than walking to the McDonalds across the road to order a burger. Don’t like milk? Use water, I only use milk because its free and cold. Cold lunch is nice at this time of year.

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
          4·
          9 days ago

          So you have a place to store that food? Yeah - when I worked retail we had a fridge and a cabinet in the breakroom, but there were 200 people working in that building all having to share a single fridge and cabinet, which means they effectively didn’t exist.

          But there were a couple fast food places in the parking lot.

          • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
            11·
            9 days ago

            My lunch didn’t require a fridge to store it. Room temperature or even out in the sun would have been completely fine. Anywhere you feel like placing a tub really.

            Dry ingredients, its never going to spoil until you add liquid which is done at the time I am going to eat it.

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 days ago

          I’ve seen videos of people like Atomic Shrimp post videos of 1 dollar a day meal challenges (which he hasnt done in a good while, for various reasons) and stuff, and I was always absolutely gobsmacked by how cheap vegetables, flour, etc were in the UK, even when the price is converted to USD.

          They’re paying pennies everywhere I pay dollars.

          • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
            1·
            9 days ago

            Tbh doing it for £1 now would be difficult to make videos on. Not because you can’t but because compared to when he started there is much less choice within the budget.

            Only so many ways you can cook the same or similar ingredients.

            • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              9 days ago

              Which is probably one of the many reasons why its been a good while since his last cooking challenge video.

              he still does cooking videos, just not like " feed 2 people 3 meals for 1 dollar" videos.

    • mirshafie@europe.pub
      3·
      10 days ago

      Yeah but just eating less processed foods, more vegetables and never drink your calories will get you a very long way even if you eat the same number of calories.

      Also walk instead of drive.

    • CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip
      32·
      10 days ago

      It’s also incredibly important to remember that not eating anything at all will trigger your body to turn your proteins and muscles into fat in attempt to help you survive longer. Do not just not eat for a day or few. I have a friend who tried that. Didn’t work.

      • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
        21·
        9 days ago

        That is not all that accurate; “muscle mass” lost during a relatively short fast (1-2 days) is due to glycogen depletion - ie. you’re burning your sugar stores, and your body sheds 3-4mL of stored water for every gram of glycogen burned.

        If you stop to think about it, it’s a bit nonsensical to claim that the body would burn additional calories (that it doesn’t have) to convert existing muscle into fat, rather than just burn existing fat stores as a fall-back source of energy.

        Muscle breakdown only really begins when the body starts to experience a significant shortfall in required essential amino acids over a prolonged period of time, or significant physical stress.

        • CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip
          1·
          6 days ago

          “In order to produce glucose for energy, the body starts to use proteins stored in the body. Now, proteins are most commonly associated with one’s muscle mass, so you’re right to think that gobbling up your own protein will have a negative impact on your muscle mass. Proteins release amino acids, which can be converted into glucose; this is good news for brain, but extremely bad news for your body and physical appearance.

          Such a rapid depletion of the body’s proteins will result in a weakening of the entire body, diminishing muscle mass, and decreased libido. In women, this can result in a total shutdown of the menstrual cycle.” [https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/what-would-happen-if-you-stopped-eating-altogether]

          You’re right to say that fasting for shorter periods can and will burn fat, but after some time you will begin to burn your muscle mass because fats do not have the stuff needed to operate your brain. Fasting for a day is not enough to do that, but multiple days can and will do this, and I personally know a few people who neglect food for multiple days.

      • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
        11·
        9 days ago

        And hormone issues can play a huge role in how your body processes and uses the fuel you give it. It’s not always as simple as calories in/out.

    • krisevol@lemmus.orgEnglish
      23·
      10 days ago

      Counting calories hasn’t with since the obesity epidemic started, and it won’t work now.

      Also for thousands of years humans haven’t counted calories, and we’re not obese.

      For the most part (excluding athletes,body builders,ect), only fat people calories.

    • solidheron@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      10 days ago

      I don’t think weight loss is just a caloric deficit. Simple because bodies can adjust their metabolism and it’s not 100% in peoples control.

      I could say discipline isn’t in these wealthy peoples minds.

      • bitchkat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 days ago

        That just means the person needs less calories to maintain weight. In order to lose weight, they still need to consume less calories than they burn.

        • solidheron@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          9 days ago

          That’s a component but metabolism can be dependent on caloric intake. Less you eat the less you’ll burn.

          You’ll get the point if you fast for more than 36 hours. You’ll eventually be too lethargic to move. Also working out while undergoing ketosis isn’t quite recommended because you can burn muscle.

  • TIEPilot@lemmy.world
    7·
    10 days ago

    The inception of shit posts. Now I need ladders, fireman and pizza delivery…

    Oh and a shepherd.

    Do do doot doot doot bahhh

  • switcheroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    9 days ago

    Not sure if there’s truth to it or not, but apparently TF knew there was a problem a while before anything was brought up by the public. TF is a Dump supporter, so probably gave a big donation to stave off any lawsuits.

  • TopsickPilgrim@lemmy.world
    2·
    9 days ago

    You can make your own at home too! Keep some brackish water in your sink for a week and cultivate your own precious colony of gut cleansing bacteria!