• shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    181
    ·
    2 months ago

    Fuck this human

    Tldr; Asshole used encrypted everything and Tor to create and spread csam. Government isn’t disclosing how they caught him

    • Wilzax@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      105
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      If you distribute encrypted materials you also need to distribute a means of decryption. I’m willing to bet a honeypot was used to trick him into distributing his csam right to the government hinself.

      • shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        50
        ·
        2 months ago

        True. Or it could have been a backdoor in his phone, or the full running browser in his sim card, or the backdoor into his CPU chips… Maybe they do old fashioned police work for these cases and only use the pegasus spyware for others?

        Pretty silly to do anything illegal on a computer when we know how flawed they are, imo

        • Cakey@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Hey, could I get some info on the

          Full running browser in his SIM card

          Thing?

          I’m quite curious and haven’t been able of finding anything on the internet about it

    • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      94
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Neither Tor nor end-to-end encrypted messengers will cover the endpoints. It’s possible that they caught him using good old fashioned detective work. You don’t need a software back door for that.

      • mkwt@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        2 months ago

        Well it probably wasn’t a Vic Mackey-style rubber hose attack, because it sounds like this chump is getting hauled into court.

      • Vilian@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        19
        ·
        2 months ago

        Tor was created by NSA, half of Tor servers are run by NSA, not that secure

        • psmgx@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          2 months ago

          Tor was created by the Naval Research Labs, and was released to the public because it is secure.

          The problem is that if it’s only the CIA or DIA using it, it’s easy figure out who is using it and where. Make it global and now there is a lot of noise to separate out.

          • Vilian@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Yeah, the security of tor relies on the nodes being different, but when most of them are owned by the same person/government body the security go downhill, sadly i2p isn’t that popular, because every person is a node

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        63
        ·
        2 months ago

        Please don’t talk about child predators, and use the term “back door” in the same sentence. It ain’t right…

        • yoshisaur@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          37
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          we’re talking about encryption here, not…that. please get your mind out of the gutter

    • CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      80
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      He didn’t use encrypted everything. He had a public telegram group chat in which he stored a lot of his material. Which, as many people in the comments on the article pointed out, is not encrypted, but is presented by telegram as if it is. That’s likely how they caught him.

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s better they don’t disclose it and catch more people doing the same.

      I’m all for transparency but if that means less caught child molesters, I’m ok with a little obfuscation, even from the fucking pigs.

  • jqubed@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    107
    ·
    2 months ago

    This whole thing is horrifying, but the last paragraph is especially disturbing:

    Since Herrera himself has a young daughter, and since there are “six children living within his fourplex alone” on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, the government has asked a judge not to release Herrera on bail before his trial.

    Even more disturbing is it said he was also producing content.

      • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        As satisfying as it may seem we can’t do this. No group no matter how heinous should be abused by the police. Don’t give the pigs an inch.

        Let him be convicted then see what gen pop has to say about it.

  • Eggyhead@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    93
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Does this go to show that authorities needing backdoors to everything in order to do their jobs is actually kind of nonsense?

    • pop@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      57
      ·
      2 months ago

      The article is exaggerating the guy’s setup way too much. Opsec doesn’t end at the application level… The OS (the most popular being in bed with US), ISP, tor nodes, Honeypot VPNs, so on and so on could leave a trail.

      Using telegram public groups and obfuscating a calculator as a password protection layer is hillbilly level of security.

      And i’m glad these fuckos don’t have the knowledge to go beyond App developers marketing.

      • psmgx@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        Goes beyond the OSI model, too. Someone has to pay for that VPN, and there has to be an entry point to getting BTC, using a 2nd hand laptop where they can prove you bought it off of someone off of Craigslist, etc.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Yup, every time I read about something like this, I look at what I’m doing and it’s way overkill, and I have nothing to hide. I’m guessing there are plenty of sickos that don’t get caught because they practice half-decent opsec, but there are a ton that don’t.

  • catloaf@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    61
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    The Ars article seems to suggest that they were able to crack his phones pretty easily, which is a bit scary. I don’t see anything about a computer.

    Although it doesn’t appear he was actually using any encryption apps to store material; rather, he used a fake calculator app as password protection. Obviously not the brightest bulb in the drawer.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      59
      ·
      2 months ago

      The material was allegedly stored behind password protection on his phone(s) but also on Mega and on Telegram, where Herrera is said to have “created his own public Telegram group to store his CSAM.” He also joined “multiple CSAM-related Enigma groups” and frequented dark websites with taglines like “The Only Child Porn Site you need!”

      My guess would honestly be Telegram. For starters, they aren’t end-to-end encrypted by default, you have to turn it on. The only end-to-end encryption that Telegram offers is their “secret chats” which are only available between two users. Groups are not encrypted.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          2 months ago

          What propaganda?

          That groups aren’t encrypted is documented. If you don’t know that, it’s because you didn’t bother to see how it works.

    • Ace! _SL/S@ani.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      ·
      2 months ago

      The Ars article seems to suggest that they were able to crack his phones pretty easily

      Android uses data at rest encryption, which isn’t really useful without a lockscreen PIN/password since data gets decrypted after you unlock your screen the first time after each boot

      Although it doesn’t appear he was actually using any encryption apps to store material; rather, he used a fake calculator app as password protection. Obviously not the brightest bulb in the drawer.

      Agreed, he probably felt safe enough “hiding” the files. Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, which is great because fuck this guy

    • chimera@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      I honestly don’t think he really had any opsec apart from those few applications, look at what tools he was using, what a joke. Fake calculator app to store files are great to protect from your parents, not the FBI.

      He was clearly using Android and I bet he was using the stock rom, kyc sim card, and not even a vpn behind tor.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy and relieved he was caught, but if he had done serious research and did a better opsec, it wouldn’t have been so easy for the authorities to get him

  • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    It seems irrelevant whether this person is using encrypted channels if they failed to maintain anonymity. If they distributed material and leaked any identifying info (e.g. IP address), then it would be trivial for investigators or CIs to track them down.

    • ours@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      2 months ago

      Likely, data may have been encrypted but he may have leaked compromising metadata. Even more likely it was bad operation security linking a personal identity to his anonymous persona.

      I’m always thankful for incompetent criminals.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      2 months ago

      In the list of apps he was using I don’t see any mention of a VPN. How much you want to bet he raw dogged it with encrypted apps over the clearnet so it was trivial to leak his real IP address

      • Baalial@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        He posted the AI filth to a “public server”, so I’m willing to bet his plan was just full of holes. I don’t mind pedos getting taken down, buy I do mind encrypted software being owned by the government - any government.

    • Clent@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      It sounds like he created material, not only AI but actual children then distributed it. The tools to track down the creators of CASM is only getting better.

      A single legal image of any of those children posted to social media is going to allow algorithms to make the match and its routine detective work from there.

      It only takes one child to talk. No amount of encryption is going to stop that.

    • addictedtochaos@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 months ago

      i watched some documatnary about hackers, and usually, they catch them because they talk way to mouch about themselves.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      All this is obvious.

      Since nobody pressures Signal and Wire in Europe, it really seems to me that the pressure is mostly applied to those who do have the ability to spy upon their users.

      That would be too optimistic about humanity, but maybe not. What if.

    • addictedtochaos@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      its way more likely that your mom searched for cancer related information on google. and you are connected to your mom, so you get ads as well.

      • Siegfried@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        I get the feeling this thing, I mean, the ad targeting is far stronger in the USA (maybe also in europe) than in the rest of the world. My “ad targeting” is idiotic. I once was in brazil (argentinian here!). And got ads in portuguese for a year or so. I was a month planning on buying a computer, with all that that involves (google searchs, looking for prices on internet) and i never got an ad until i actually bought everything, then it was 2 months of ads recommending me to buy the exact same components i already bought.

        As today, half of my ads are in german. Jokes on them, i use them to learn.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      Man ain’t nobody escaping feds in the fucking fed land if they want to fuck you over legit or not.

      But we ain’t got to make it easy for them either, let them do their jobs if they think they got something.

      Privacy for me at least is denying the corporate the data. Your story and many other ones like it reinforces the well known fact that they farm us.

      But clearly shit works based on ad trash cos valuations. But we still got adult men and women out here who got nothing to hide 🤡

    • linearchaos@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      2 months ago

      I’m still not entirely convinced that tor is as protected as people think it is.

      There’s only something like 6,000 exit nodes. It really wouldn’t be that much money for the government to run thousands of them. If you monitor enough exit nodes and enough relays, you can start to statistically tie connections back together with timing analysis.

      I don’t know this to be the case for sure but I can’t imagine the government hasn’t pushed towards breaking the security and identifiability of the tor network

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        2 months ago

        If you read a lot of news, it’s really clear Tor isn’t protecting anyone from the FBI. It’s about as effective as using limewire at this point. Which also, the reporting makes it pretty clear it’s not effective to hide criminal acts in the least. But it’s pretty great abusers think it’s effective so they get caught.

        • 0x0@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          2 months ago

          If you read the news it’s really clear people commit opsec mistakes - all it takes is one - and get caught.

          • Snowclone@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            The inciting thought of most criminal acts is ‘‘they’ll never catch me’’. Which if you’re as lucky as me, you’ll know you’ll get caught everytime, and they’ll make an example of you. It’s kept my nose clean a long time.

      • Chozo@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        I’ve suspected Tor of being heavily compromised for a while now. It’s already known that many onion sites are government honeypots, with sites being taken over rather frequently, sometimes without triggering the canary. While it’s better than nothing in some situations, I don’t think it can be relied upon for true anonymity anymore.

      • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        It’s not as protected as people think it is. This has popped up on headlines for years. It helps, but if someone really wants to find you on there, they can. It’s just not as easy.

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Lots of conjecture in the comments about how he got caught. Too bad nobody read the article.

    Web-based generative AI tools/chatbots

    he created fake AI CSAM—but using imagery of real kids.

    All the privacy apps in the world won’t save you if you’re uploading pics to a cloud service.

    • chakan2@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      And…that’s still not how he got caught. He hit a child porn honey pot and they got his IP.

      I would have assumed all his AI work was local on his own server.

  • chimera@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    2 months ago

    It is also because of people like him that laws like Going Dark become plausible to the eyes of the politicians and the masses

      • superkret@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        41
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        People like me, who are against the death penalty on principle. (or even more “creative” forms of punishment people like to come up with in these cases).
        No, prison is where this guy belongs. For as long as necessary.

        • Womble@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Further to this its not likely to result in less children being abused.

          If you have the death penalty for even possessing CSAM as the parent suggests, then there is no incentive to not get into distribution or even actively abusing children and producing CSAM once you posess some. The punishment isnt any worse so why not? Its the same reason for proportionality in other crimes, we dont punish robbing a bank with life in jail as then there would be no reason for anyone who robs a bank to not just murder everyone to leave no witnessess.

          • superkret@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            ·
            2 months ago

            And if you propose the death penalty for abusing children, a child abuser has incentive to kill the child afterwards to get rid of the witness.
            The punishment can’t get any worse, and it reduces the chance of getting caught.

        • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          2 months ago

          Death penalty is fine if it didn’t get abused bit it will be abused. We know this. So yes i agree with you.

          But also if cop killed him and there is adequate evidence that athat person actually hurt a child. I just see self defense and if I was no a jury, I would not convict and I hate police lol

          Society lost this basic function for self cleansing. At some point these people just need to be disposed off.

          Also, state will execute for treason. I look at severe child abuse as a higher order, ie social treason. FAFO

        • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          25
          ·
          2 months ago

          Oh, I was thinking something far worst than death. I was thinking something like a torture rack.

          • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            31
            ·
            2 months ago

            So you’re a sadist, but you try to convince yourself it’s okay because you only want to torture people you think deserve it. Of course, no one deserves to be tortured.

  • sumguyonline@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    2 months ago

    It’s all publicly approved backdoors until feds are planting child abuse imagery on your PC because you spoke out against them in the wring venue. No one will believe you when they do. Currently you can’t trust articles like this, maybe the dude was actually hurting kids. Maybe the feds just needed a win. You won’t ever know, and neither will I so long as the same ideology is in control. Now watch them turn every single kid in the pics into a sex offender because the fed believes if you were raped, you WILL rape someone in the future. But by all means keep enjoying their rage bait.

      • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        A lot of it out there and a lot of it was enabled by limp dick society. Looking at you cathlics… Fucking disgusting that you allowed your clergy to do this and even cover up for it. And when people spoke up you ostricized them. Pathetic social behavior.

        Imagine when your clown social group is more important than children being raped.

        • catloaf@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          That’s the funny thing. This guy got busted through plain old detective work.