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Since you all are too fucking stupid to know what I mean, 200k a year of money finances income, you fucking idiot. (I desperately want to use the R-word because it’s justified here.)

Since you all are too fucking stupid to know what I mean, 200k a year of money finances income, you fucking idiot. (I desperately want to use the R-word because it’s justified here.)

Changing your name in order to disassociate yourself from someone (especially to a name from a TV show you have no connection to) is also disrespectful

How is that “disrespectful”? In what way is that “disrespectful”? And if someone is a big fan of Iron man hates his current last name and wants to change it to “Stark” why shouldn’t he.

define with concise and quantifiable metrics for what constitutes a real fan of DC

Let’s look at some arguments against Batman.

“He beats up poor people.”

You could, again, say this about any rich superhero, but Batman doesn’t “beat up poor people.” Most of the people he fights are rich and wealthy crime lords who hurt innocent people in his city. That’s what the entire Court of Owls storyline is about. And even if the criminals are poor, these are still people who are going out of their way to choose to rape, kill, and maim people. The criminals who are criminals because they are poor—Batman gives them tons of job opportunities.

If someone is a pimp who pimps out underage girls, and is a rapist, an assassin, or a gang leader, should we not stop them because “they are poor”? Especially when they make so much money they could retire or go legit?

“He beats up the mentally ill.”

Again, Joker is doing what he’s doing because he wants to, and this is an insult to mentally ill people, because there are tons of mentally ill people who choose not to commit evil acts and want to treat their mental illness. Batman’s rogues gallery is not—and again, most supervillains are mentally ill—so this point is stupid.

“He recruits children.”

Teen Titans—the sidekicks of damn near every League member. And then they might say, “Well, they have powers.” They are still fighting threats that can kill them. Also, by this argument, you’re basically saying a teen should not be a superhero because he has no powers.

“Why doesn’t he use his wealth to help Gotham?”

Literally every comic, animated show, and movie shows he’s using his wealth to help Gotham.

A real fan of DC does not make these stupid arguments because they know it’s objectively false.

“never read a comic” part though just hurts any argument.

Actually, no, it doesn’t hurt any argument, and I will prove it to you.

Let’s look at some arguments against Batman.

“He beats up poor people.”

You could, again, say this about any rich superhero, but Batman doesn’t “beat up poor people.” Most of the people he fights are rich and wealthy crime lords who hurt innocent people in his city. That’s what the entire Court of Owls storyline is about. And even if the criminals are poor, these are still people who are going out of their way to choose to rape, kill, and maim people. The criminals who are criminals because they are poor—Batman gives them tons of job opportunities.

If someone is a pimp who pimps out underage girls, and is a rapist, an assassin, or a gang leader, should we not stop them because “they are poor”? Especially when they make so much money they could retire or go legit?

“He beats up the mentally ill.”

Again, Joker is doing what he’s doing because he wants to, and this is an insult to mentally ill people, because there are tons of mentally ill people who choose not to commit evil acts and want to treat their mental illness. Batman’s rogues gallery is not—and again, most supervillains are mentally ill—so this point is stupid.

“He recruits children.”

Teen Titans—the sidekicks of damn near every League member. And then they might say, “Well, they have powers.” They are still fighting threats that can kill them. Also, by this argument, you’re basically saying a teen should not be a superhero because he has no powers.

“Why doesn’t he use his wealth to help Gotham?”

Literally every comic, animated show, and movie shows he’s using his wealth to help Gotham.

People who use these arguments literally have not read a comic, nor are they Batman or DC/Marvel fans in general.

“probably just want to be included in the discussion”

If you have no real knowledge of something you can’t discuss it.

they have jobs

What jobs do they have?

The people in my previous post have a problem with Batman being a billionaire and recruiting kids. If you were a real fan, you would suspend disbelief and realize it’s a fictional story. We watch Law & Order because they live in a world where cops actually care about victims, and we want to live in a world where cops are reformed and act like them. We are aware that it’s unrealistic, but we suspend disbelief.

Batman being rich—same with Iron Man—is just a part of the character, so suspend disbelief. Robin and Batgirl have been a part of Batman lore for centuries. The reason I say they aren’t real fans is because they aren’t—they hop on the Batman bandwagon hate train because it’s popular. That’s it.

They don’t have this same criticism for Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Emma Frost, Kate Bishop, Swordsman, Sunspot, and every other rich superhero. They don’t have a problem with the rest of the league that recruits children as sidekicks. If you don’t like Batman because he’s rich and has a sidekick, that’s fine—but extend that same level of dislike to every other rich superhero. That’s all—be consistent.

If you are a real fan and have an issue with Batman, then I would have to assume this same argument applies to the characters I just mentioned.

In Absolute Batman, Bruce isn’t rich—he’s a working-class construction worker. And for an “altering what-if” story, that’s fine. But you still have to explain some things, because him being “poor” plays no part in the story at all. He still has gadgets, a Batmobile, a dump truck, etc. He never struggles with money, and Martha is still alive. So again, please explain: how does he have all this equipment if he’s not wealthy? And why be Batman if his mom is alive? Please explain this.

This is known as gatekeeping.

There is literally nothing wrong with gatekeeping and yes there is such a thing as a “real fan”

Absolute Batman is poor as fuck, but he can afford a mining dump truck, fuel for it, the supplies to customize it, a secure place to hide it, and the list goes on.

Also if Martha is alive and if hes working class then why be Batman in the first place?

And why are criminals afraid of this dude?

You aren’t a real Batman fan and thats ok! My post was for real DC fans.

Child endangerment

I hope you have this same energy for literally every single superhero in the DC universe because the Teen Titans literally exist because almost all the justice league members have child sidekicks.

I never said I wasn’t a socialist. I’m genuinely asking—what if I don’t want to work? In a socialist system, everything is basically free, so I don’t have to work.

OP is definitely wrong about rich people not dating middle class people or poor people

A millionaire Heiress isn’t going to date the pizza guy who comes from a working class or middle class family

The millionaire heir isn’t going to date the Starbucks Barista who comes from a working class or middle class family.

Most upper-class elites date other people from upper-class elite families. The only exception might be ‘new rich’ people, like rich athletes, singers, actresses, actors, and models. For example, a man or woman from a very wealthy family might date a rich Hollywood actor who comes from a middle-class family, but they wouldn’t date a ‘regular’ person.

You see this all the time: Nicola Peltz’s dad is a billionaire, and she’s married to David Beckham’s son. David Beckham is worth half a billion dollars. There is no way a millionaire heir or heiress is going to date someone middle class. The idea that ‘star-crossed lovers’ fall in love is just a trope in TV and movies.

You think people only date or have relationships within specific economic classes?

A millionaire Heiress isn’t going to date the pizza guy who comes from a working class or middle class family

The millionaire heir isn’t going to date the Starbucks Barista who comes from a working class or middle class family.

How about executives in companies?