lol, definitely missed some important context.
I guess it thought OOP meant “clean” as in how do you dress the bird before you cook it. (As in: “clean a fish” means to filet a fish and prep it for cooking.)
I rarely remove the label from the fish I catch.
Well obviously not for fish. Sounds like someone’s never bought fresh pigeons from the grocery store, smh.
It’s actually illegal to cut those off.
Yea, it voids the warranty. So when you get poisoned after eating it without label, you won’t be able to get a refund.
BREAKING NEWS: Mother Nature recalls over 1000 lbs of tuna
Be sure you read the EULA before you clean a pigeon.
it might contain traces of forces arbitration
I thought it was only illegal for the stores to cut those off. Like it was some kind of consumer protection thing. Which was back in the 70s, we don’t get that kind of thing anymore.
No, that’s mattress fishing
Nobody ask it how to dress a baby
Vegtables, garlic, basted with pan drippings.
Side of potatoes.
First you snap a shoulder socket…
Swiftly
Even then those are bad cleaning instructions…
But first it said they are usually clean. So that can’t be the context. If there was a context. But there is no context because AI is fucking stupid and all these c-suite assholes pushing it like their last bowel movement will be eating crow off of their golden parakeet about two years from now when all this nonsense finally goes away and the new shiny thing is flashing around.
There are signs of three distinct interpretations in the result:
- On topic, the concept of cleaning a wild bird you are trying to save
- Preparing a store bought Turkey (removing a label)
- Preparing a wild bird that is caught
It’s actually a pretty good illustration of how AI assembles “information shaped text” and how smooth it can look and yet how dumb it can be about it. Unfortunately advocates will just say “I can’t get this specific thing wrong when I ask it or another LLM, so there’s no problem”, even as it gets other stuff wrong. It’s weird as you better be able to second guess the result, meaning you can never be confident in an answer you didn’t already know, but when that’s the case, it’s not that great for factual stuff.
For “doesn’t matter” content, it may do fine (generated alternatives to stock photography, silly meme pictures, random prattle from background NPCs in a game), but for “stuff that matters”, Generative AI is frequently more of a headache than a help.
It literally doesn’t matter. When the most-used search engine on the planet automatically suggests these specific actions without you even clicking on a specific site? We’re fucked. We had the chance to break up monopolies like Google, Microsoft and Facebook. We didn’t take it…
No WE never had this option.
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop apologizing for AI, you clown.
Do you remove the “label” in step one of cleaning a fish? Please, tell us all where that is.
Wut?
and yet the crypto/AI bros swear that the second coming of AI Christ is here.
Just a few more billion dollars .
We’re so close!
Just a bit more rainforest, no one will notice.
IIRC you need double the compute for 10% improvement in a model and they’ve already computed quite a bit.
I like the idea that these are scientist-monitored birds that you remove the tag from before dressing and eating.
It would make an interesting footnote in the scientific article that had this pigeon in the experiment.
“1 This pigeon was removed from the experiment as it was eaten by a local Florida Man.”
“Subject study terminated due to invasive anthropomorphic predator.”
This actually happens very frequently in the US. When hunters harvest a bird they report their kills in compliance with hunting regulations. If any of your birds have leg or neck bands you report that information as well. The bands have a tracking number on them, and scientists use them to monitor populations and migration patterns. It’s literally part of their plan.
You get to keep the bands as well (I only have experience with banded geese and ducks). They’re a neat memento.
This is a perfectly logical answer to a hunter.
“Remove the label”
This guy still thinks birds are real.
The bad hunter who misses all the shots and buys the fowl in the market
You don’t want those wildlife conservationists trackimg things back to you later on.
One can assume that said AI is a confused moron, or that poaching is a legal crime, not a moral one XD
Got this result today
Mind you, today is the 18th. So, thanks a ton
Technically, it’s not wrong.
It’s also not helpful, but it’s not wrong.
But isn’t it wrong? I don’t think something coming next can be already in the past or am I wrong?
It says it will happen after the 17th
Oh, you’re right. I didn’t see that
It is wrong because the highlighted portion of the excerpt is supposed to directly answer the question. This one doesn’t.
You’re arguing that the highlighting is wrong, that it should include “after” in the highlight?
Exactly
Seems minor, but alright. You’re entitled to an opinion on it, same as everyone else.
It’s not actually wrong, but it certainly didn’t answer the actual question.
What if they asked the question during the day, then it would be correct
I’m going to build a bunch of cyborgs, who follow orders exclusively via googleAI.
I figure once I release about 4 billion of them into the world, either google stops doing evil shit, or they do REALLY evil shit. We shall see what happens…
If you asked me to clean a bird, this is exactly what I would think of. Though usually it involves removing lead shot, not labels.
I think it took note of it being about rescue pigeons and assumed they would have a tag on them and then gave cooking directions for them
That is the culinary answer for the question.
Is it telling steps to cook it
Well yeah, you have to clean it first.
Fun time to remind everyone that pigeons aren’t native to the Americas, and were brought over originally by the French primarily as a food source (although also as messengers; carrier pigeons).
“Squab” on a menu is pigeon.
Pigeons are drones (confirmed)
Pigeon = edible bird
Cleaning a bird > preparing a bird after killing it (hunting term)
AI figured the “rescued” part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued
If you make a research for “how to clean a dirty bird” you give it better context and it comes up with a better reply
The context is clear to a human. If an LLM is giving advice to everybody who asks a question in Google, it needs to do a much better job at giving responses.
Nah, the ai did a great job. People need to assume murder/hunting is the default more often.
Ah yes. I always forget to remove the label from my hunted bird. Cleaning “the top bone” is such a chore as well.
Top Bone was my nickname in college.
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Honestly, perhaps more people ask about how to clean and prep a squab vs rescuing a dirty pigeon. There are a LOT of hungry people and a LOT of pigeons.
Or, hear me out, there was NO figuring of any kind, just some magic LLM autocomplete bullshit. How hard is this to understand?
It’s a turn of phrase lol
I have to disagree with that. To quote the comment I replied to:
AI figured the “rescued” part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued
Where’s the “turn of phrase” in this, lol? It could hardly read any more clearly that they assume this “AI” can “figure” stuff out, which is simply false for LLMs. I’m not trying to attack anyone here, but spreading misinformation is not ok.
I’ll be the first one to explain to people that AI as we know it is just pattern recognition, so yeah, it was a turn of phrase, thanks for your concern.
Ok, great to know. Nuance doesn’t cross internet well, so your intention wasn’t clear, given all the uninformed hype & grifters around AI. Being somewhat blunt helps getting the intended point across better. ;)
You say this like human “figuring” isn’t some “autocomplete bullshit”.
Here we go…
You can play with words all you like, but that’s not going to change the fact that LLMs fail at reasoning. See this Wired article, for example.
My point wasn’t that LLMs are capable of reasoning. My point was that the human capacity for reasoning is grossly overrated.
The core of human reasoning is simple pattern matching: regurgitating what we have previously observed. That’s what LLMs do well.
LLMs are basically at the toddler stage of development, but with an extraordinary vocabulary.
I like how you’re making excuses for something that it is very clear in context. I thought AI was great at picking up context?
I don’t think they are really “making excuses”, just explaining how the search came up with those steps, which what the OP is so confused about.
I thought AI was great at picking up context?
I don’t know why you thought that. LLMs split your question into separate words and assigns scores to those words, then looks up answers relevant to those words. It has no idea of how those words are relevant to each other. That’s why LLMs couldn’t answer how many "r"s are in “strawberry”. They assigned the word “strawberry” a lower relevancy score in that question. The word “rescue” is probably treated the same way here.
I know how it works, thank you 😚
“You’re holding it wrong”
Let me take the tag off my bird then snap it’s wings back together
But it said pigeons are usually clean.
Bought in a grocery store - see squab - they are usually clean and prepped for cooking. So while the de-boning instructions were not good, the AI wasn’t technically wrong.
But while a human can make the same mistake and many here just assume the question was about how to wash a rescued pigeon - maybe that’s not the original intent - what human can do that AI cannot is to ask for clarification to the original question and intent of the question. We do this kind of thing every day.
At the very best, AI can only supply multiple different answers if a poorly worded question is asked or it misunderstands something in the original question, (they seem to be very bad at even that or simply can’t do it at all). And we would need to be able to choose the correct answer from several provided.
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I mean, if they were actually “clean” and had a healthy diet compared to what they eat in urban areas, they could make an awesome protein source for the budget minded.
Not they could. They do. You can buy squab in restaurants. Maybe stores but none I’ve seen.
Though, you wouldn’t want to eat one you “recovered” from an urban area that’s had an unknown diet, due to all the toxins it may have accumulated in its body.
Incidentally that’s also why you shouldn’t eat me.
Are you from an urban area?
I am from a very rural area but I’m currently in one of the largest metro areas in the US.
The alien invaders killing and consuming millions of humans in movies should be shown 5 years later or something. Trying to recover from all the shit they ate.
I’ve eaten pigeons plenty times in my childhood. That my grandma “recovered”. But to be fair back then my neighbourhood was suburban-ish.
Yeah, they could have microplastics in their testicles.
Or even their crop (see below). Pigeons are known to ingest what they think are stones which stay in their crop and act as a grit which will grind down whatever is eaten.
Edit: lemmy can’t handle hyperlinks with parentheses
It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. They need to pull the plug on this shit and stop beta testing misinformation.
Rescued and into the oven🤦
