• RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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      It’s a universal rule that anyone who references their supposed IQ like this is at most half as smart as they think they are

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        Unfortunately I’m smart enough to know mentioning my IQ at the very least makes me come off as a pretentious prick. But I would REALLY love to just win arguments by simply having a higher IQ than sb else.

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          Nobody ever wins arguments, thats why ive mostly stopped having them. Sometimes, with a lot of long and patient DISCUSSIONS you can maybe bring someone around to seeing your point of view, but in an argument all sides just end up thinking the other is an asshole.

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    There is some bliss in having a universal personal pronoun w/o grammatical genders whatsoever (ő) in a languange (hungarian). Often you can even omit it altogether from a sentence.

    But let’s not mention the many cases…

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    As someone speaking a native language in which I need to rephrase myself multiple times and need to work with multiple / and * before a sentence is both grammatically correct and perfectly gendered - I still take my time because inclusion is worth it - I just don’t get why anybody could ever be upset about English gender inclusive language.

    An example:

    Every cyclist should wear their helmet to protect their head from injury.

    Jede/r Radfahrer*In sollte seinen/ihren Helm tragen, um seinen/ihren Kopf vor Verletzungen zu schützen.

    We usually tend to rephrase these sentences like this:

    Alle Radfahrenden sollten Helme tragen, um das Risiko für Kopfverletzungen zu minimieren.

    All cyclists should wear helmets to minimise the risk of head injuries.

    • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Fun fact about how stupid this outrage is: singular “they” has existed longer than singular “you” in the English language. If you refuse to use singular “they” but aren’t using “thou,” then you’re a hypocrite.

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      I don’t know where you got this from or if you just invented it, but I have never heard/seen anyone mix * and /.

      People interested in gender neutral language used / before the idea of more than two genders came up. Whoever wanted to specifically include non-binary people started using _ or *.

      Also it makes little sense imo to include nb’s in the subject of a sentence to go back to binary scheme in the pronouns…

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        My highschool teacher wanted us to use * and / as given in my example. I usually rephrase myself to not having to use / that much but idk if you can just use the male or female possessive pronoun to include everyone (if you use the * at some point in the sentence to make it clear) I honestly just use the / to be super sure.

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          You can just replace / with *, in pronouns as well: Seine * ihre, Kolleg * innen, jede * r.

          [Edit: without spaces inbetween, but otherwise things become italic in here]

          This way you are the surest, since everybody is included every time.

          I really have no clue where your teacher got this mixing thing from. But all this is work in progress. Societies and languages have to transform and that doesn’t need to be a linear process. Imo it’s even better if it isn’t, because exploration and multiperspectivity aren’t very linear by nature and irritation and changes make for good opportunities to think and discuss.

          For example sometimes I like saying just one gender, if it makes for good, well placed irritation.

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            Oh thanks a lot. I learned the whole thing back in 2015 from a teacher who was close to retirement and who lived and taught the last 40 years in the last hinterland district with more deer than human inhabitants. And at university I didn’t take the course because I thought I knew it (and because it was being held on Monday morning) but I probably would have learned it there.

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              You’re welcome. Well kudos to them anyways I guess. Some hinterlands outeight ban gender equality language so I’ll them in as progressive :3

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        *Die Stadt sollte designierte Fahrradstraßen haben, damit Fahrradfahren auch ohne Helm hinreichend sicher ist.

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          Ich muss leider auf dem Land fahren wo sie einen in uneinsehbaren Kurven (oder mit 100km/h) mit 30cm Seitenabstand überholen.

          Ein Grund wieso ich fast nur noch auf Wald-, Feld- und Güterwegen fahre.

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    They/them is grammatically correct for singular nouns, but maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone (like this lady who is opposed to using someone’s correct pronouns) being difficult. But I feel people who want to be difficult are going to be difficult for whatever reason, and it’s not about the pronouns or grammar at that point.

    For reference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

    Edit why is my comment being read uncharitably by the downvoters? Its weird behavior, I don’t get why someone would do that lol

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      edit: below comment is in response to a previous version of the above comment before they clarified it was about the lady :)

      maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone being difficult asking

      ftfy :)

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        I think that lady isn’t asking though? She seems argumentative to me

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          oh you mean use neopronouns instead of they/them specifically in order to appease jeanette in the post?

          sorry, i thought you meant using neopronouns in general. you might want to consider editing your comment for fuzzy language if that’s not the case. :)

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            No I won’t edit further, I hate the purity test I am being put through here, so I am just going to stop responding to this thread, thanks

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              ugh but i see your edit now and it fixed things! genuinely i think you were being downvoted because people misread your intent but it’s better now lol? sorry you took so much offense to that i guess

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                Maybe that was the goal? You can’t tell with people these days. Regardless, I don’t like someone assuming stupid shit about my morals and ethics. I know what I am about, so I’ll just continue doing that.

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                  alright ur a little grumpy today and that’s okay lol. thanks for clarifying your comment even though you said you didn’t want to