I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.
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A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A “rogue state” is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is “the international order”?
Well, it’s the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of “legitimate” behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it’s framed as upholding “rules-based order” whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as “rogue states”.
To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.
Yes, that’s true. I’m more concerned with whether US citizens, whose past administrations more or less invented the term, can now recognize for themselves that they are no longer on the side of the “good guys” with this administration at all, but are now the “terrorists” themselves - the very thing that past US administrations denounced (at the time, of course, already completely speciously).
Edit: Trump himself has even brought the term back to a certain extent - and he is not only the personification of evil for the governments of other countries. I just want to make it clear that it’s the same here as with almost everything he does: it’s projection - whatever he accuses others of, he and his corrupt gang are the ones doing it.
Edit 2: Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying this because I believe that Europe, for example, would be much better - I’m saying it because I’m from Germany and we have the history that you all know. It’s not too late to put a stop to Trump and his Nazi colleagues, but it will take civil resistance. If there is no vehement resistance, I fear that history will repeat itself. Nobody in their right mind can want that.
My point is that there are no “good guys” and “bad guys”. There are only differing levels of power. The US has been doing a lot worse for a lot longer. It’s just that past administrations were diplomatic about their use of power. This administration, being a reality TV star, is just choosing to be loud about it.
America under Biden supplied 80% of the bombs that Israel dropped on Gazan civilians. Obama led the illegal attack on Libya and killed Gaddafi and doomed Libya to anarchy and chaos. Bush destroyed Iraq and doomed them to anarchy and chaos- creating ISIS. I could go on and on.
Most American citizens (just like the citizens of virtually every country in the world) are not really concerned with geopolitics. They have to pay their rent, they’re gonna be late for work, their kid is failing a class, their girlfriend is pissed because they don’t go out enough, they’re tired from work, they’re working hard for that promotion, they’re worried about rent increases, etc.
So to answer your question. No, Americans don’t really care. And even if they care, they’re forced to worry about more pressing individual matters. Basically the same thing that happened in your home country in the 1930s.
Myself and and a good number of people I know are very aware and horrified. Unfortunately this isn’t necessarily the case outside of my social bubble. Since major media outlets aren’t doing a great job, a lot of people are trying to spread the real news in a grassroots style.
Edit 2: Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying this because I believe that Europe, for example, would be much better - I’m saying it because I’m from Germany and we have the history that you all know. It’s not too late to put a stop to Trump and his Nazi colleagues, but it will take civil resistance. If there is no vehement resistance, I fear that history will repeat itself. Nobody in their right mind can want that.
You say this while both your country and the US are supporting the genocide of palestinians with barely any civil resistance other than some toothless protests.
Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.
Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I’m more leftist than I thought I was…
Liberals will claim that they are furious at what’s going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what’s going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. 🤷♀️
Sad but True.
Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there’s an outside world in the first place. The amount of covering up that needs to be done is minimal.
It figures it takes someone calling themselves “CanadaPlus” to actually see the actual question and answer it.
Everyone else is answering about how aware Americans are about what’s happening, but the question was about whether Americans were aware of how the world perceived the US. The answer, of course, is “no, Americans have no idea because Americans consume almost no non-American media”.
This kind of question coming up a lot is why I chose the name, haha.
We been a rogue state for 100 years
We’re inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.
Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run
Could you elaborate on that take?
Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.
However they’re creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.
It’s covered up yeah, most of the republicans are too dumb to realize it.
Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.
The last administration proposed sanctioning the ICC
We have first past the past voting here, this means we don’t vote based on who we like but rather who is the lesser of two evils.
It makes it easy for good and smart people here to support things like this, even if they don’t want to, because the alternative is worse.
The irony is that had the previous administration followed what Obama and Clinton and every other previous administration did on the border topic, they would have won in a landslide. But now the corruption of the last few years is being revealed and it’ll be interesting to see the fallout over the next few years.
The Biden admin and Dems literally tried giving the majority of the people what they wanted and the Reps stopped them to make Biden and the Dems look bad and the irony is Biden and the Dems were ready to give the Reps what they’ve been asking for with the border and immigration for years.
I see the American media as softballing fascism, or they’re just outright complicit.
No one will call shit what it is, and every fucking thing in the news needs to be both-sides-ed.
This doesn’t help with the less educated grasping these basic concepts, nor does the massive stigmatization of intelligence and critical thinking, nor does the attacks on institutional education.
There’s laws constantly being passed in the form of ‘vouchers’ to drain public school funds and funnel American kids into Christian indoctrination, and our public schools are now dramatically underfunded.
So I guess I understand why more than half the population just straight up ignores politics. because reality here is really depressing.
To be fair, this is pretty similar to the way American press covered the rise of German fascism at the time
Those of us who aren’t Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what’s happening, and a disgusting number either don’t care or love it.
I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn’t like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.
The Biden administration aided and abbetted genocide. The American monoparty would be proceeding exactly as planned under genocide Harris as it is doing now, just slightly more slowly.
BoTH sIDes ARe tHe SaMe!!!1!
Now you’re getting it!
Ah, I was mocking you. Kind of makes it less fun when I have to explain it, but considering my audience it’s to be expected.
If you write the truth in spongebob case it doesn’t make it any less true
There was never a point in US history that it was not a rogue state. If you believe there’s a period it wasn’t, you simply do not know enough history about the time period you’re referring to.
Or more likely, you believe white lives to be more valuable, and you take offense now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.
Yup.
What we are seeing now is a critical inflection point for liberals: do they do honest introspection and start to apply real criticism to the history of the US, or do they cover their ears and claim Trumpism is an aberration for which they have no reasonable explanation.
To put it simply, liberals now have a choice between
“Damn, this is really the outcome of the american political project, huh? How did we get here?”
And
“Trumpist fascism is un-American, and I am clueless as to how it took hold, but I am going to continue to vote blue no matter who!”
If the amount of liberals on .world bizarrely harkening back to the “good old days” of the founders, Reagan, Obama, and even dubya is any indication, I suspect most of them have gone with the second option.
Liberals are just as much reactionaries as conservatives. They simply disagree on which status quo they’d like to return to and who is acceptable to exploit.
That’s why I wrote “…now definitely a rogue state”. Not that there was much of a question before but now it should be obvious even to US-citizens.
Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
Taiwan’s did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945–present)
It was actually neat. The “hybrid” between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.
Ukraine is sort of a dictatorship now, but Zelensky will probably give up power.
But, uh, we don’t talk about them here I guess.
How is Ukraine a dictatorship?
They paused elections, and Zelensky has some extraordinary wartime authority. He could try to consolidate power after the war, but he certainly won’t.
They aren’t really a dictatorship, of course, I’m just trying to illustrate that dictators can and have chosen to give up power… And it’s unfortunate that more don’t.
Their constitution states that elections won’t be held during wartime. He’s not disallowing elections, their foundation of government is disallowing them. Attempts to band ho,as some kind of dictator are just propoganda. He’s the legally elected President and following their laws.
Based on the pro Trump people in my life, I’ve seen two classes:
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Those in denial and ignorant in general (don’t really follow the news), who don’t believe for example that Trump is deporting people without due process, and blatantly violating the law and constitution.
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Those who are so sucked into the MAGA own-the-libs circle-jerk that even when presented with the facts and proof of Trump doing something blatantly illegal, will usually retort with something like “oh so when the Democrats do it it’s okay, but now the Trump is doing it it’s wrong??? You fucking communist!”
Both I believe are the result of being fed far right propaganda by YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc. It’s the only explanation I have. These aren’t random people I don’t know. These are people I love and have known my whole life.
It hurts to see, and I don’t see a way to help them that doesn’t involve ruining those relationships. I avoid talking about politics around them because I know it’s going to make me resent them, and I don’t want that.
Note, that this isn’t actually the question. It’s not whether Americans are aware of what’s happening, it’s about whether Americans are aware of how the rest of the world perceives the US.
I have the experience. Close friends consumed by the alt-rightosphere. These are (arguable were) caring people who’d stop and help strangers stranded on side of the road. People I considered like minded. But now it’s “Democrats are pedophiles, Clinton flew with Epstein and here’s how the election was stolen” (the irony is not lost on me).
Trying to discuss this constructively just doesn’t work. It always ends with 😡👉"Your information is wrong and you’re being brainwashed"👈😔 you can show them all of the stuff but their eyes glaze over and they’re just thinking about how to find an article that either: Spins how the negative thing is actually good or just outright false.
You are just a bit right, because you base your politics opinion on few, literally just few examples that you know for the entire population. I’m not saying youre wrong, but well, your experience might suggest right people are caring, while left is not, while one’s experience might be the same but for left people. But definitely and we can see that in different surveys etc. that right people are just ignorant. They don’t care what their leaders do as long as it doesn’t impact them, and why is that bad? Because exactly the same way Hitler took the dictatorship. I believe both, left and right people are good, it just depends on a specific individual if hes not good, but the important thing in democracy is you have to care, no matter at which side you are, but you have to care about politics, and let the information in, not stay untouched when clearly basic humans right are being invaded.
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Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.
