• johncandy1812@lemmy.ca
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    I hate when nature is absent. It’s not just urban centers. Large suburban parking lots with no trees are a kind of hell for me.

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    This is why I want to move to the netherlands. Beautiful countryside, walkable cities. Shit, I could bike to nearby cities there if I wanted to.

    I’ll never be able to afford to leave the hellhole known as the usa, but damnit I’ll dream.

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      I live in Norway. Growing up, some days in school were reserved for diverse activities. Some of my friends and I decided to bike to the swimming park in the city ~20 miles away. We didn’t have to bike on car roads at all to get there, as bike lanes and good side paths lead us the whole way. Being able to get anywhere with a bike at the age of 14 is an amazing level of freedom.

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        Growing up in the 90s in the usa, movies and tv always showed kids riding around on their bikes and not coming home until dark. Where the hell did they go? To get from the suburbs into town would be 10-20 miles riding on the edge of the highway almost wherever you live. No shoulder, no bike lane, no nothing (I did this to get to work for about a year. it sucked, got hit by a truck twice in that time.)

        Norway sounds great.

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        UK here, not perfect but we did have quite a few paths that either don’t allow cars or don’t have many so cycling around was pretty easy. Cars make people lazy. Many people I know will drive to avoid an 800m walk.

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        I could stare at the streets and walkways in a typical netherlands city for hours. I love good brickwork. Sometimes I get on google maps and just digitally walk though places. I don’t want to point at amsterdam, because everyone knows amsterdam. Try lelystad, built on land that was underwater not that long ago but reclaimed by modern dutch engineering.

        I’d gush about how beautiful their streets are, or I could link a video that does a much better job than I ever could.

        https://youtu.be/Cq1kV6V_jvI

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    It’s depressing seeing this in my city. Full groves of trees and fields ripped up and destroyed for another McDonald’s and more and more apartments. It never ends does it ?

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        If you go to any old town in Europe there are a lot of roads with practically no cars. You can just walk along this wide road through the town fit for dozens of people. The problem is not that there aren’t enough pedestrian sidewalks, the problem is everything in modern infrastructure is being made for cars, and roads are seen as both meant for pedestrians AND cars.

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    Only sort of related but The Florida Project is a great film that shows children playing in the dismal misery of Florida, much like in this photo.

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    Here in the Europes, I find curbside parking similarly depressing. Like, man, it should be a human right for kids to be able to go outside for playing ball. But you can’t do that anywhere around here, because wherever there’s kids, you can be sure that someone’s parking their precious car nearby.

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    That’s the same outside that was there in the 80’s. Kids just do other things that aren’t outside to be social, now. When I was a kid, if you wanted to play with other kids, you pretty much had to go be outside.

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    Commercial streets like this existed back when I played outside 40 years ago too. If you are going to talk about kids playing, use a photo of a residential area.

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      Okay. I hear what you’re saying, but, given that everyone “needs” to be in the office and the office is in a major city, very few people live in the suburbs in the current workforce.

      Most of the suburbs are owned by people either soon to be, or already retired.

      When those houses get handed down to the person’s progeny, generally the place is liquidated, bought by either a flipper or a landlord, and either ruined, run into the ground or otherwise trashed and taken off the market, possibly to be replaced with either a condo building, a “luxury” rental that nobody can afford, or something similarly terrible, like the house being renovated into single room “suites” for rent…

      New developments are no longer an arm and a leg, but rather: both arms, both legs and at least one kidney, just for the down payment.

      New “homes” are still being made and those that aren’t snapped up by someone looking to make it into an “income property” are either going to rich folks from out of town that moved to the area because it’s cheaper, and they sold their home in (insert large city name here) for millions of dollars.

      There’s a lot wrong with the housing market, and bluntly, neighborhoods have gone to shit. Parks are frequently unmaintained, and I never see anyone using any parks anymore, so many of them are getting omitted from new developments, so the number of local parks is shrinking. Add that to the growing number of people forced to live in the city where they work because commuting is a nightmare and they simply are not allowed to work from home because the boss doesn’t want them to, and I’m sure we’re getting more and more kids growing up in this kind of urban landscape.

      The older generation can only blame themselves for doing it too… Which is likely not you, I’m talking about the people who started their career in a union, then when they decided to start their own business, got in there to union bust.

      There’s a lot of capitalists that drove entire markets into the dirt so they could have a bit more.

      I blame reality TV

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      Change the picture to a normal suburban playground but set it on fire and have an old hag calling the cops on the kids for having the audacity to enjoy life and it’ll be thousand times more accurate.

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      It’s depressing to think that you’re right. 40 years ago it looked like this, and now it looks like this too. We have civil engineers and research all around the world that shows how to build better, more human infrastructure and transportation, but America decides that this is what it needs to be. 🙃

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    And this could be anywhere in the USA, this could be California, Texas, Fucking Virginia or even Puerto Rico.

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    That very much not solarpunk. Where is the positivity? Or at least the reflexion for a solution?