• Lucky_777@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1042·
    2 months ago

    This will be a terrible mark on human history. When the world watched as internet personalities sailed into Gaza to provide aid. When we did nothing as women and children starved to death before our eyes.

    Who will be ignored next?

    • EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.spaceEnglish
      743·
      2 months ago

      My entire school life there was so much pontification over what “you” would do during segregation or the Holocaust or slavery?

      Turns out my entire family would grow a toothbrush moustaches and start painting vegan landscapes while I kept working because the cost of living rises more than wages and I long for the reprieve of death.

    • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
      243·
      2 months ago

      Who will be ignored next?

      • Sudan
      • Myanmar
      • Armenia
      • Afghanistan
      • Tibet

      These aren’t next, these are already forgotten even though they’re catastrophes. Hell, even Ukraine is being forgotten even though it’s one the biggest wars in 21st century. When India and Pakistan looked like they were about to go to war, this Israel/Palestine war was also pushed to the back of people’s minds.

      I think this is the just the nature of humans. People want to think they’re noble and righteous, but they won’t actually do anything, and the moment a new war starts they’ll move on to that because it’s new and we have short attention spands.

        • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          You are entirely correct. People like to think the war is over, but it’s still very much on going.

      • untorquer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        2 months ago

        I think it’s media bias and sensationalism. It happens when journalism has a profit incentive and is owned by 4 or 5 oligarchs/ultra-wealthy.

        • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          I think that’s a contributing factor, but I don’t think it’s the only one. We live in the age of social media where anybody anywhere can post anything at any time. Anybody can be a journalist and post pictures, videos, or give live updates as events are happening. In fact we have a lot of people like this from just about every conflict in the world who give us updates just about everyday. Despite this, things like wars are still treated as trends by people. When the fad gets old, people get bored and move on to the next new thing.

    • CriticalThought@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      2 months ago

      Who will be ignored next?

      I hate to say it, but there hasn’t been a time in modern history where there weren’t women and children starving while the rest of the world did nothing.

  • Genius@lemmy.zipEnglish
    591·
    2 months ago

    You shouldn’t blame Zionism on a mental illness. Zionism is a choice to be awful.

      • Genius@lemmy.zipEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        I didn’t say it was faith either. It’s not mental illness or faith.

        • Zink@programming.devEnglish
          16·
          2 months ago

          To be fair the OP didn’t call it mental illness either. They said something was wrong with them as a person.

          • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            It is a conscious decision to commit genocide, using Judaism as a cover to protect them from criticism. Intentionally bombing children does mean something is wrong with you IMO

          • Genius@lemmy.zipEnglish
            26·
            2 months ago

            They said they oppose genocide because they’re not a psychop*th. That’s not appropriate language. We don’t use slurs, and we don’t blame Zionism on ASPD.

    • HasturInYellow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 months ago

      Are bad/lacking morals a mental illness? Seriously, at what point do we draw the line? It’s a curious topic.

      • Genius@lemmy.zipEnglish
        13·
        2 months ago

        No, they’re not. When psychologists become the arbiters of correct morality and pathologise disagreement, society is fucked.

        You’re thinking of what happens when good people make the rules. But what if people like Freud were in charge of calling certain moral values illnesses? We already have enough problems with things like homosexuality being called a mental illness. What if Trump Derangement Syndrome were in the DSM?

    • angrystego@lemmy.worldEnglish
      34·
      2 months ago

      That’s not what she does. Being a bad person or even being a psychopath is not considered a mental illness.

      • Genius@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        In a certain sense you’re right; psychop*th is Greek for “suffering soul”. It’s supposed to just refer to the abstract idea of mental illness. But in practice, it’s a slur against ASPD. And even if that weren’t the case, using the Greek word for mentally ill person as an insult is disgusting behaviour.

    • AreaSIX @lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      Jesus, how much have the Zionists modified that Wiki article? A text supposedly about how Israelis dehumanize Palestinians repeatedly starts by reciting the issue with Palestinians and Muslims dehumanizing Jews? This is the first mention of the details of dehumanization:

      “Among Palestinians, Israelis have been referred to as pigs, dogs, and bloodsucking vampires, while in Israeli discourse references to Palestinians as savage animals and or repugnant critters has also been attested, and at least once, protesting Gazans have been described as mere ammunition weaponized by their “cannibal” leaders.”

      And this is the first paragraph under “Background”:

      “Even though Jews, like a number of other religious minorities, Christians included, were accorded protected status in Islamic societies, the use of abusive stereotypes was not uncommon, some of them were grounded in Quranic and early scholarly traditions.”

      Is this about Israeli dehumanization of Palestinians? WTF? Let’s always start by reciting how Muslims maybe kind of deserve it, or maybe bring the dehumanization on themselves.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
    162·
    2 months ago

    I mean… I’ve been saying similar stuff for a while. I’m not on anyone’s side specifically. I live far enough away to not be affected by the situation and for my opinion to have no affect on the situation. Simply put: it’s not useful for me to have an opinion, so I don’t have one.

    HOWEVER: I always have and always will oppose the unnecessary death and cruelty happening. Doesn’t matter where, or who, or when… If some group is killing another group, I don’t like that.

    The only good reason to use violence on a global stage is to stop violence; aka self defense. Like what’s happening to the Ukraine, as a simple example. The Ukraine is well within their right to defend themselves and their land from a foreign invader. I am opposed to the Russian army marching across international borders and seizing land by killing whomever tries to stop them and/or whomever is there. Not cool. I dislike Russia’s actions there. I don’t dislike Russia’s or Russians, I don’t have a problem with any individual person. I have a problem with the decision that was made at the highest levels of government to invade.

    Same thing here. I could not care less which side is comprised of what people’s of what culture or religion… I just don’t like that one group is invading/bombing/killing the other. I have no animosity towards those defending themselves, trying to not get killed…

    I don’t know why everyone needs to make every opinion on the matter a question of race, religion, or whatever. I don’t care, just stop murdering eachother.

  • Vazz (He/Him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Isn’t being against war and genocide the same as anti-imperialism? I hate how saying “War is bad” has become so controversial and extremist.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    131·
    2 months ago

    I think there will be consequences for Israel’s crimes, just not today.

    Israel is destroying its reputation and its future with its current actions. Yet no power in the world can stop them today, because they have waay too many weapons.

    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      I think there will be consequences for innocent Jews who have nothing to do with the Israeli genocide. This sort of behavior gives ammo and a perception of legitimacy to antisemites. Israel is making things harder for Jews worldwide for years to come.

    • mad_lentil@lemmy.caEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      Have there been consequences for the United States’ or Canada’s genocides against Indigenous peoples? Not really.

      People can just get away with things unless you make them pay for it.

      EDIT case in point, 200 years from now we could be celebrating the jewel of democracy Israel, while “acknowledging its troubled past” but you’re still doing this over the bones of the people your predecessors slaughtered. I’m not even saying it wouldn’t be genuine, like people today in the US and Canada bemoan the actions of previous colonizers. But the fact of what happened remains immutable. The slaughter happened, and the people who committed it accomplished their aims. They got away with it.

    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      I think there will be consequences for Israel’s crimes, just not today.

      Possibly, but that won’t help the dead kids. The focus must be on stopping the genocide as quickly as possible. Finding and punishing the perps can wait.

  • brachiosaurus@mander.xyzEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    let’s discuss why people are supporting governments, politicians and companies backing the genocide

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15·
      2 months ago

      Because western ideology is ultimately ultranationalism, they will always support their country against others.

  • vorb0te@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    101·
    2 months ago

    I only know her from claiming there will be no Russian invasion while it already had begun. Later, she is peddling Russian propaganda. Moron.

  • anticurrent@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    2 months ago

    According to a recent pen state uni poll, 80% of Israeli society support the forced removal of Palestinians from Gaza. If we follow the reasoning in this post, the Israeli society is kinda locco ◑﹏◐

    • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      91·
      2 months ago

      Either that, or the psychological abuse techniques that militaries do to turn normal people into obedient soldiers are effective. Israel has compulsory military service, so nearly all of the population of the country went through it. That’s how they get that 80% support.

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    83·
    2 months ago

    I also do not oppose them for those same reasons.

    Also all of those reasons (except love hamas/hate jews), but not just because of those.