• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Verbal communication has very limited bandwidth compared to human thought processes. But we’ve been spending the past few millennia inventing workarounds, like art.

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      3 months ago

      as if verbal communication isn’t an art form in itself

      It’s just the boundary of our thoughts are so much bigger than they were 100k years ago

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        I was not in any way implying that language cannot be used to create art. Such an assertion would be nonsensical.

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          This is why I block so many people, did you even take a moment to think before you posted?

          Here is what you wrote earlier (emphasis mine):

          Verbal communication has very limited bandwidth compared to human thought processes. But we’ve been spending the past few millennia inventing workarounds, like art.

          Here is what you wrote now:

          I was not in any way implying that language cannot be used to create art.

          Do you see any logical problem with this? Nope? I didn’t think so.

          I mean I understand why you are like this, and it’s hardly a problem limited to just you. No one really cares about the meaning of words and just want the emotional payoff from saying them. This ties into the whole ‘media literacy is dead’ thing, and EVEN WORSE you feel absolutely ZERO twinge of conscience at posting two completely logically incompatible statements

          ON TOP OF THAT you’re probably even going to consider the fact I called you out on this troublesome to do some other form of harassment or deflecting just like always instead of admitting your fuckup.

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    3 months ago

    Being able to do it properly is what being a skilled artist is all about

    Writer, painter, sculpter, they are all trying to take that magnificent unknowable thing and make it fit into a teacup for our enjoyment

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      I’ve tried this. I also use a plethora of additional words, with different and more nuanced meaning, all in an effort to get the exact point across. Problem is: not everyone is rocking an extended vocabulary, so it basically doesn’t work most of the time.

      I’m trying to re-learn how to be more succinct instead. The key is to zero in on what matters to the audience, and carve out the part they need to hear.

      Less really is more.

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    I don’t usually have trouble putting it into words.

    Where I run into trouble is putting it into so many words I know damn good and well nobody is going to be able to keep at it, but I’m nowhere close to explaining what I mean, so I just give up and walk off.

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    So basically, it’s like, consciousness just declares … any time … now, so that’s why it’s like, always now you know?

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    There’s also the fact that BASIC English is a simple singular dimensional language to express an imperialist thought. You’d need a language that experimented with complex and dimensional thoughts in order verbalize thoughts simpletons can conceptualize, if at all.

    一路順風

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    Im leaning on the notion that if you can’t verbally explain the idea, then you only really understand it in passing or through rote (input/process/output), but you do not actually understand the process at a high enough level to connect it to anything else.

    Smart people can do incredible things, but the truly smart can explain analogs of what they do to 6-year olds. Everybody should learn how to teach