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      I’ve occasionally tried using Linux in the past as my main desktop, because I think Windows as an OS is inferior, and lately because Linux’s UI actually seems superior, but I always got suckered back into Windows because I wanted to play certain games.

      I tried again last month, and this time, it’s different. The games that I want to play work well enough in Linux. Some of them have native Linux builds. Others work well enough in Proton, which is Valve’s version of Wine, a Windows emulation layer that can run Windows games in Linux.

      I don’t see any reason that I’d ever go back to Windows again.

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        People who haven’t tried Linux in a couple of years need to read this.

        The amount of progress that has been made with respect to Linux gaming over the past few years has been astonishing.

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          Now if only big software developers understood this and released business software for Linux…

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            Much of the businesses in media already do. EG: Maya was released for Linux. Its predecessor ‘ALIAS power animator’ was a Unix based program and ran on SGI.

            You’d be hard pressed to find a studio involved in fx or 3D or any function of post production not running on Linux.

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          My understanding is that a lot of it has to do with the Steam Deck, which is Valve’s handheld gaming platform. Valve wanted it to run most of their catalog, but they also decided to use Windows emulation rather than Windows, so they forked Wine and put some money and effort into improving it.

          But some games are harder to run than others.

          If you use Steam, it might be as easy as installing it from Steam, because sometimes the games are multi-platform. FTL is an example of this that I currently have installed. But it seems like more and more game developers want their games to run on the Steam Deck, so they release native Linux versions. (Ironically, I think FTL doesn’t run well on the Steam Deck.)

          Some games run simply by telling the Steam launcher to use Proton as a compatibility tool. So, the only hard part is choosing which version of Proton to run, which involves picking it from a list inside of Steam, which then downloads that version of Proton, and then trying the game. And if it doesn’t run well, then try a different version of Proton and iterate. IIRC Rocket League is a game like this. On my computer, it seems to run best with the latest Proton beta. For me and my 5 year old computer, it doesn’t run as perfectly as well as it did in Windows, as it can stutter a bit when there are explosions on screen, but for me, it doesn’t seem to impact my play. And it takes longer to load, but I don’t think it’s possible for an emulated game to load faster on the same hardware.

          And some games require you to look up how to install them, and you end up having to install some Windows things into your Proton runtime using something called Protontricks. Skyrim is an example. It took a lot of fiddling to get it set up and the audio working correctly. But now I can’t really tell the difference between how it runs in Windows vs. Linux, except that it takes longer to load in Linux.

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            Yeah I’m familiar with all that… Though one correction, Proton is a “translation layer,” not an emulator. Same with wine (it’s right in the name).

            My experience has been that, often, the Windows version with Proton works better than the native Linux version. And most of the time, it just works with “Proton Experimental” or the most recent GE-Proton release.

            ProtonDB is a better resource than Steam’s own compatibility rating. I’ve been able to install and play several “unsupported” games on my Linux laptop (like Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition with DSFix).

            The majority of games will play. It’s kind of crazy how well it works.

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            They also give a lot of money to Codeweavers, the developers of WINE, so that WINE can have enough developers to support it.

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        What’s really wild is that not only are games good enough on Windows, but tests lately are showing a consistent trend where the two are often indistinguishable in performance, and where they’re not, Windows isn’t consistently winning.

        If you’re not into the genre of competitive multiplayer games that have kernel anticheat, Windows isn’t really better for gaming anymore, outside of being more familiar for many people. Today we’ve reached the point where it’s a few fps either way, and people should use whatever they want, but if Microsoft keeps bloating Windows, it might soon be that the “Windows tax” also refers to the performance penalty you pay for using the familiar OS instead of learning something new.

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          And what’s even crazier about that is that Microsoft will literally make it the slowest god damn shitty OS on the planet before they even think about removing all the telemetry and bloatware.

          I truly believe they would let it hit 50/50 people who use linux over Windows over not removing like two features that spy on you.

          They just flat ass wouldn’t do it. They know they won’t die completely in our lifetimes so they would absolutely let it crumble into a shell of what it used to be before they ever start being user friendly and privacy respecting. I actually think it will eventually destroy them but might take like another 80 years

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        I think what you posted is great and should be read by people on the fence.

        But conversly, I quit windows when XP came out becausei wanted to stop playing Microsoft’s games. There were enshittifying back then and it only has got worse.

        I even admin Microsoft systems for a living, have access to nearly every product that make for free, and I still will never use windows at home. Even managing azure or SQL databases or having to use products that are windows only I do it through a Linux machine. Sometimes by pushing commands, sometimes with remote desktop. But I do it because Linux just works, I can count on it. Not so much windows or Microsoft.

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        Exactly. I tired SuSE back around 2001 and Ubuntu around 2006. It was not a better experience so I never stuck with them. I started using Mint last year and it just stuck. There are some quirks and learning curves, but it’s a good experience. Linux has changed a crap ton.

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        Yup same. Was all worried I can’t play my games but then discovered the fedora everything install and the online tutorials were well written to get wine and proton going and the drivers and was like holy shit this has come a long way.

        I can live with this.

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      I’m a Linux user since it was distributed in diskette images.

      I use both Windows and Linux, mainly Linux, but I dual boot or use a VM sometimes because I need to use some programs which are not practical or just don’t work with wine.

      I don’t see Linux as an alternative, I see Linux as different tool.

      I mainly use cruciform (pozidrive if possible) screws and screwdrivers, but sometimes I have use flat.

      No drama, no religious zealotery.

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    “Linux can’t run my cock and ball squeezing app!”

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        Yeah I realised the only games I cant play on linux are the ones that really don’t respect my privacy/time/wallet so it ended up a net benefit

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          I had my first issue since switching just yesterday (I’ve been switched for a couple of months).

          I wanted to run some mod installers for the old Kotor games but they’re .exe files.

          Only stuff I could get working was manual file-replacements and steam workshop mods.

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            You should be able to use those mod installers by running them with wine within the wine prefix Kotor is installed in surely?

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              Not sure about wine. Haven’t used it since like 2016.

              I’m running all my games in steam with proton. Not sure if that’s connected at all.

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                Proton is just wine with some extra stuff added, if you install protontricks this explains what to do.

                
                protontricks-launch --appid <APPID> <EXE>
                
                

                Should get you what you want, you can find app id by looking at the url of the game in the steam store or using

                protontricks -s <GAME NAME> 
                
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      Good thing that Linux can run pretty much everything I want to play. Ckb-new and and Streamdeck-gui still need some finishing touches so that E:D and DCS are identical to old Windows setup, but everything else seems to run without a hitch.

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    This just in, convicted monopoly Microsoft will fuck you over at every conceivable opportunity. Film at 11.

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      convicted monopoly

      Well that’s a blast from the past. That was neat-o how Mr Boies nailed a conviction and the remedy was … An apology? Was it even that much?

      Glad to see Microsoft is successfully building on that crushing no-remedy defeat by doing the same and more. #winning

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        It was actually significant, and changed them quite a lot for 2 decades. Now they don’t give a shit anymore. But there was an impact.

        Woukd have been more significant if Bush admin hadn’t overridden the original judgment to break MS into 3 companies.

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    shakes fist

    Family members have PCs that can’t support Windows 11 (not that I’d want them to get it anyway) and I’m not yet in the position to migrate them to Linux.

    This type of behaviour makes me glad I’m most of the way to ditching MS entirely on my own systems.

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      I’m most of the way to ditching MS entirely on my own systems.

      You can do it, Aussie. Bite his freaking head off.

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        Frustratingly I have just a few applications that are Windows-only and don’t work under WINE. I’ve filed bug reports but haven’t had the time to learn how to debug it myself, so am somewhat stuck dual-booting on one device for the near future (everything else is now Linux).

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        I know, but that year will be valuable for a certain family member who is stubborn and needs time to be eased into a new system. The problem is that now I have to set up a MS account for them just to get the extension!

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    At this point, I’m starting not to feel bad for people who put themselves through this shit. Using windows nowadays is like staying in an abusive relationship while you have an actual chance to get out, then complaining about it. Linux works no problem. And if a software/hardware vendor refuses to bring it to Linux, then you vote with your wallet. We need to let go of a bit of our love for “convenience” and try to be uncomfortable a tiny bit. Be a tiny bit inconvenienced.

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      And the thing of it is, back in the good old days you actually had to learn how to use your computer. This took effort, comprehension, and skill. And probably reading some manuals. Like, actual words printed on dead trees, bound up into a book. This was normal and expected, and you would build up your skillset to operate the machine you probably paid thousands of dollars for. No one had a problem with this then.

      Learning to use Linux is no different, but nowadays everyone just wants everything handed to them and they’ll steadfastly refuse to put forth any effort while simultaneously failing to realize that figuring out whatever the next workaround is to get around something that Microsoft broke for them in the last update is basically exactly the same thing. Think back when you were learning to use DOS or trying to install your VESA local bus video card drivers in Windows 3.1, or desperately fiddling around with EMM386 in your config.sys file to try to get enough conventional memory freed up at startup to run Doom. If you had the amount of online resources we have now to just get the answer and not have to call tech support (and probably pay for it), or paw through a manual, or just be fucked and have to figure out by trial and error on your own, we would have all been stoked.

      Entitlement breeds complacency, and complacency leads to the Dark Side. If you go out of your way to teach yourself to be helpless, you will be helpless.

      Back then you owned your computer. By and large outside of some specific special purpose fuckery with licensing dongles you physically possessed the software you ran. Like, on a disk. You controlled what you ran, not some outside source. With all of the commercial operating systems (this includes OSX and iOS, Android, and Windows all to various degrees) this is now actively being taken away from you. The only way to claim it back is to run one of the open source platforms.

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        There are families with 4 children with a full time job that need to also maintain cars, a house, do taxes, estates, bikes, computers laptops iPads tvs, routers, electrical wiring, heating, water, aircon and cel phones among all the other equipment in the house for every day living like coffee machines, fridges, dishwashers, washer dryer, ovens and stove tops sinks and toilets … I can understand and respect that they don’t have the time to know how to build or troubleshoot all these things from the ground up and commit all their time to doing all of it just cuz they bought a slice of convenience. Cuz any one of these things they use daily could be used against them for not knowing how to do the basics of.

        And any parent with stretched time I would not call that helpless. Parenting seems pretty hard. The feeding alone. And they don’t go out to hunt or gather like in the old days. If they picked only one thing out of that to commit their time and it’s to their family I’d say their priorities are correct.

        It’s a computer. It’s a tool for some and for others: it’s a hobby. Your decision. you do you and whatever blows your hair back.

        If you’re that eager to be crunchy and ‘purist’ about doing all the legwork of everyday existence go back to pissing in an outhouse, maintaining that just for ‘simplicity’ and take your own garbage to the dump, i think there are even communes you could join to experience that raw life but i still don’t understand this fear of progression.

        Anyways point is: Gatekeeping is so cringe. And I’m saying this to you as a fellow Linux user.

        We can be better than this. Be better than this.

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          Who’s gatekeeping? You’re putting an awful lot of words in my mouth. I’m pointing out that a lot of people are effectively gatekeeping themselves.

          I think you rather missed the point.

          Everyone has fantastic resources available to them through the internet that didn’t exist in the early 1980s, or whenever. And yet, people with four kids and cars and mortgages and taxes managed back then. It’s even easier now. The only obstacle to anyone is apathy.

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            Speaking of missing the point : you’re doing a perfect example of apathy.

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      You should have sympathy for people in abusive relationships. Your judgmental attitude is ridiculous in both respects.

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      Honestly I firmly agree with this. If it doesn’t work with wine nowadays unless it’s a big thing i just don’t involve myself with it.

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      the main difference is that Microsoft builds features quickly and for profit. that means the focus isn’t always on what the user wants, so they make tradeoffs that are good enough to not disturb the user base. recently with the AI craze basically showing how little they really care for the user.

      Linux on the other hand is FOSS, anyone who wants a feature can build it. this is slower to deliver because the profit incentive (if there even is one) isn’t as big but that also means there don’t have to be compromises to delivered features.

      looking at both these operating models i would rather be in the group building the future for users rather than shareholders. if it means waiting a few months for a few things to work as smoothly as I want I’m ok with that because it only keeps getting better and it’s literally free.

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      A lot of software still requires Windows.

      Games are a big one for sure, but there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not run on Linux.

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        Games are a big one for sure

        Unless we’re talking about the handful of kernel-level anti-cheat games where the devs have refused to allow Linux support through Proton, nearly every game you own will work. Most of them without any tinkering whatsoever.

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        This is a myth and has been for several years. The only games that do not work with linux are ones that have intentionally artificially disallowed the use of linux using kernel level anticheat (rootkit). Many of these games worked on linux until adding no-linux policies to their anticheat.

        There is no technical incompatibility, only artificial policy choices that game companies have made

        EDIT: you can downvote me, but I am still correct.

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          I have been trying to get the sims to work on my wife’s Linux laptop. I can either get it to run at 3-4fps, or I can get it to run without the ability to save anything.

          I have Steam deck and with every game I have tried on it so far working, I thought it would be the same with a laptop. Boy was I wrong.

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            Not sure which Sims you’re referring to, but it looks like it should work: https://www.protondb.com/search?q=the+Sims+

            It looks like The Sims 4 is the only one that might need some tinkering. Stupid EA installers…

            Though the only entry for the first Sims game that appears in the results is the “Legacy Collection,” so if you’re referring to like the original CD-ROM or something, it might be different.

            Edit: just noticed that Sims 3 doesn’t appear to have any entries on ProtonDB so I don’t know… If any of them don’t work is most likely because of EA bullshit

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              Sims 4, and I have tried every version of Proton, I have tried proton ge or whatever it is, I have tried every suggestion in the sims 4 protondb entry.

              I have tried the suggestions in my thread about it. (I think there was one I still need to try, actually)

              I have the fitgirl repack, I have tried via steam, I have tried the .exe from EA.

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                Weird. I’m pretty sure I have played via steam and it worked. I’ll maybe try later if I remember.

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                  I have heard that from other people, but have seen on protondb there are as many that can play it as the cannot. I think I have it working finally is lutris, after almost a month of trying different things.

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            What distro of Linux did you install on the laptop? I’ve had no luck getting wine to work on Fedora, but my desktop is running Bazzite which is based on the steam deck OS and I’m games run great (sometimes with tweaking required).

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                Oh, Sims 4 fit girl pack Ive gotten to run consistently on Cinnamon. Feel free to ping me sometime if you try it and run into an issue, I may be able to get lucky with a pointer.

                It’s got a shit ton of expansions in it.

                Edit: (Believe the last couple of times I did the installs through Lutris. I just picked the .exe and used the standard wine defaults for the install, then once it’s done I believe it worked fine by adding a game and pointing it to the .exe for the play file. Then if you feel like it you can switch to proton to see if you get better performance, but a Mint install with a Pentium Processor with 4gb of ram (HP touchsmart) was able to run it, so most anything should be able to use the standard wine setup just fine.)

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                  I receive this error while running the setup.exe through lutris.

                  I also tried installing the version you can download through lutris which seems to only be a simsync app that never connects to anything.

                  Edit to add:

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          @theunknownmuncher @TheFeatureCreature

          Ok let’s give you some more software which still don’t work with linux

          - recordbox
          - serato
          - traktor
          - engine dj

          While recordbox 6 still worked in a kvm environment … recordbox 7 crashes even in this environment.
          You can to a certain degree avoid maybe serato or traktor and use “engine dj in a kvm” to prepare denon stuff but you always need recordbox for preparing usb sticks too as a dj.

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            Again, further proving my point. Rekordbox was arbitrarily designed to detect if it is being run with WINE to prevent use with linux. There is no technical incompatibility, only a policy choice, and you can get rekordbox to run with linux if you jump through hoops to defeat the WINE detection.

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              @theunknownmuncher i used a kvm not wine. My guess it requieres a certain level of HW Acceleration on the GPU Side to be runable ( the new AI Stuff in RB 7.x ).
              Fun fact their support wanted me to install a amd gpu driver in my kvm ( i was laughing ) … after telling them this doesn’t make sense i got to some other support unit and they told me this isn’t a supported environment and i should keep using RB 6 which basically is getting slower and slower with every release …

              PS: if you got a good link to get RB 7.x to run in WINE ( Proton ) and being able to hand in removable media and such i would not mind to take my time to set this up.

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          I never gave a reason why a game would/wouldn’t run on Linux. I just said that games are a reason some people continue to use Windows.

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            It’s a very small subset of games and most are live service microtransaction garbage not worth playing anyway. Many are spyware and viruses disguised as games, eg Valorant

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              The quality of those games is irrelevant. The user asked why people still use Windows and I gave a few examples. Simple as that.

              You are arguing for the sake of it.

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                No, they’re saying you are making a mountain of molehill and using it as justification. You are saying you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

                Now you two feel free to proceed, I have my popcorn.

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                  Yeah but they are saying a reason why people don’t move, not a justification of why he isn’t.

                  That said I had to run a program that detected my computer specs for a job interview recently, and they flagged my machine because I had just booted Windows in Virtual box so I could hopefully pass their test. Instead I had to borrow my spouses laptop, run the test then went back to using my computer for everything else once the test was over.

                  That said, you should never take a job that requires you to use your own hardware… But desperate times…

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          I just wanted to chime in that there’s far more reasons that your software doesn’t work on Linux than just the developer saying no.

          Basically, if your game or software has to interface with anything at the driver level, such as a keyboard or a headset configuration software, or anything that needs to access complete system access such as kernel level access or being able to see processes outside of the wine environment. It’s going to be incompatible. This is by design for system security and is unlikely to change on official releases any time soon.

          Additionally, if the game requires any type of integration into basically anything Microsoft, so be it the Microsoft account services, the authentication token services, multiplayer services, applications on the MS store etc, it’s going to be a no go as they have yet to make a decent translation layer for those systems. Being said with the push for demand of Game Pass on PC, there are people working on those projects, but I haven’t personally seen anything that had decent progress.

          I have to hard disagree with the statement that it’s a myth. Yes, many games will work with minor tinkering. However, We are still a long way from having something that is just a click play and it works style system and it’s not usually from developer choices (outside of choosing not to make a Linux distributable)

          Being said, it has gone a long way since I started using Linux back with Mint Maya. ProtonDB is an excellent resource to find known workarounds when it breaks, But you definitely should not go into any Linux system expecting it to “just work™”

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            Tell me you haven’t tried Proton on Linux without telling me you haven’t tried Proton on Linux.

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              I have multiple versions of proton installed currently. However, I’ve mostly given up on the glorious egg rolls because they seem to have caused more issues than they are worth. But if you have a specific version that you’ve found is easier to use and not as annoying, I’m up for suggestions.

              Once my system loads, I’ll tell you what versions I’ve tried and which ones I’ve had issues with.

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                  Currently I have proton GE 9-7 as my default for steam(with the hope that it works), and when that fails I swap to proton 9-0-4 or experimental, but I have GE 10-10 and 10-4 installed but they currently aren’t on any games as I haven’t got any games to seem to want to run with them.

                  Then on lutris main I’m using a custom runner for one of my games because it needs to get around EAC since standard support is iffy, but I default to Wine 10 for it as they state proton shouldn’t be used on non-steam. However I do have Lutris-GE-8-26 installed but it only ever worked right on one of the games.

                  Then for lutris on my distrobox Arch container(because FF XIV and Genshin launchers & controller support break for some reason otherwise) I use Wine-ge-8-26 which is a coinflip of if it lets me launch or crashes which makes me suspect that theres a race condition somewhere.

                  I haven’t had good experiences with GE which is why I was hoping you might have some recommendations on a /stable/ version if you can call GE stable lol

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            Tl;dr parrotted talking points completely irrelevant since 2022

            Additionally, if the game requires any type of integration into basically anything Microsoft

            If you want to specifically use Microsoft software then you have to use Microsoft software? Wow, gee, what a perceptive point. You got me there lmao

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              I’m parroting old talking points because those talking points still exist. They existed in 2022. They existed in 2012 when I started, and they still exist today August 2025.

              I said I agree that wines gotten better, but I’m sick and tired of people thinking that it’s some sort of magical unicorn that can just resolve all the inner communication issues with Windows & Linux.

              In the last 2 months alone I have had several games that have failed to launch completely. at least 10 games that have required me using a specific proton version. One game that required me to install a custom wine runner that’s specifically configured for the game to function, a handful of software incompatibilities, The most annoying of which being the software that is supposed to make my headset compatible with the computer, which required me due to the fact it’s not compatible with wine, to have to make my own audio profile to split the two mixes it has, and I’m currently working on a custom user interface for it to allow me to actually change the settings on the headset.

              All of these examples are completely ignoring the reason that you provided of companies not wanting to support it. It’s just the support doesn’t exist in the current wine infrastructure. If we’re including the games that are using kernel level AC or disabling the usage on Linux, that list becomes bigger.

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                those talking points still exist. They existed in 2022. They existed in 2012 when I started, and they still exist today August 2025.

                Nope!

                at least 10 games that have required me using a specific proton version

                So in other words, 10 games that worked on Linux…

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                  10 games that /launched/ on linux. there is a difference. It was for sure not 10 games that ran the same as if in a windows enviroment. For example one of those games in that critera you can’t tab out of it or it hard crashes. (Safecracker if you were curious)

                  Another one of those games was “The Isle” which has a raving disco ball sky during the night time.

                  Then theres phas… which while it functions the mic support is iffy cant work in lobby and night vision video is broken

                  Of the popular titles, of what I tried was probably Phas, Death Stranding (random crashes when the BT’s show), Sniper Elite 3 (overall laggy), Ark SE (not surprising but it has massive pre-game queueing if the server is modded so it takes 20-30 minutes to enter a modded server), Genshin Impact (controller issue on my main OS so i need to run it on my Arch distrobox) and FF XIV which launcher crashes unless I run it in a distrobox, and has weird audio issues.

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      For me, Minecraft bedrock (for kids) but looks like anything MS tainted will start (or maybe already does) require windows.

      Looks like I have to decide what to do soon because they’re still on W10.

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        it will be a slight downgrade, but they do have a Minecraft bedrock wrapper program that uses the Android version of Minecraft, so technically Pocket Edition, and that’s probably the easiest currently at getting that version of Minecraft to run on Linux.

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      It’s stupid, honestly. I was trying to play Fallout New Vegas for the fifth time, and starting the game I realized the main radio station of the game, which repeats forever, was mute. For my weird taste, this was a dealbreaker, as IDK how they do it, but their playlists have this quality to immerse me in the game no matter how many times I listen to them. Tried every fix I could find to sort this problem with no success. So, back to Windows 10, and it works. At this point of time, I don’t play New Vegas, but there are so many GB to download, partitions to extend, etc. I guess in December I will try to go back to Linux.

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      I say this as a Linux user, Windows is still considerably easier to use and it certainly looks a lot slicker.

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        and it certainly looks a lot slicker.

        As someone who is still required to use Windows on my work laptop, hard disagree.

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          Im genuinely curious as to what themes and DE you’re using that looks better. In Windows everything is slick and polished, stuff slides and bounces around, the colours are consistent and work together, it’s all pretty elegant. I’m using KDE right now and all that I get is the start menu thing changes shade when I hover the mouse over it. I also use Gnome and XFCE, Gnome is pretty good and XFCE is obviously really basic.

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            I use KDE. Have you messed with “edit mode” on the desktop yet (just right click on the desktop and hit “edit mode”). There’s also tons of themes and other visual customizations on their site (that you can either access manually on a browser, or access through KDE itself when in the theme settings). You can make it look pretty much however you want.

            I despise the way Windows looks and feels.

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            You just answered my question. I was going to ask you earlier and then forgot to hit send. Because I thought plasma actually looked really slick, so I was going to recommend it. Especially with how customizable it is.

            The biggest annoyance that was to get used to was the change in overall size of the menu bars, but once you’ve been using Linux for a week or two, it actually hurts your eyes going back onto Windows again.

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    “Install Linux, Problem Solved.”

    Seriously, I’d like to see Linux made better so much non-technical people can use it without any further technical assistance, most notably, computer games that are normally functional and easy to install under Windows.

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      I’ve used nothing but vanilla steam for windows games in Linux for a few years.

      I think there’s the misconception that, because you can use other things, you HAVE to use other things.

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      Steam and lutris for non steam games. You literally need to learn one program and navigate one singular menu is another and voila every computer game just kinda works, at least in my experience.

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        Easy for them, but not everyone else. I’m saying this as someone who’s into PCs, used both OS, fixing them for a very long time, and seen a lot different kinds of userbases – some who don’t have formal PC use training. That in my part of the world, while Android is pretty prevalent for smartphones and gaming on them, pirated Windows is still being used for PCs because it’s so familiar for a lot of people, it’s almost the default, but for how long that’s gonna last as Windows is being made more like locked with DRMs and shit like that.

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      It is now. If someone just uses the browser, they wouldn’t really notice if it was Linux. Well, they’ll notice because it would be faster. I have my entire Steam and GOG library setup on Linux and every game I want to play regularly works just fine. Yes there are instances where I’d need to get on the terminal but that’s quite rare.

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      There’s a great Linux distro guide here.

      Elemental OS if you want a Maclike interface.

      According to the guide, Zorin OS would be great for beginners if you want a Microsoft-like interface that’s FOSS.

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    I hate Windows. But I have to use Adobe suite. Wine doesn’t play nice. More than an hour of troubleshooting I feel is not worth it. I need to be working more than solving issues. Someone point me to how to make Adobe suite work (without hours of troubleshooting) and I’ll join the Linux team. Do not suggest other software options I get the files for Adobe they have to be Adobe specific.

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        Yep. I figured. I receive and deliver files in Adobe. I 've found a few work arounds before but yah it’s a non starter. At least I have a separate computer for daily Linux.

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      Honestly, Adobe and Microsoft deserve each other. It’s Adobe you should reach to get you a solution, not us, Linux users. As much as we would like to help you, you are caged by Adobe and your industry “standards”.

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        I’m so weirded out that Adobe has a native Linux version of their substance Suite. Only available via steam

        I’d love to know what weird skunkworks shenanigans are happening in that Adobe apartment

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      If you’re not willing to try to escape the terrible enshittification of Adobe, I don’t think anyone’s gonna be able to help you.

      That sucks. Sorry you have to deal with their bullshit AND Microsoft’s bullshit.

      Other software might surprise you. 🤷‍♂️

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        I love the other software, Gimp ,etc. but yah I can’t change an entire industry to adapt.

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          I mean, usually you can think about your own process as a black box as long as you can take in whatever format they give and output whatever format they need.

          You have to make your own decisions, of course. I just want to say: it’s not impossible.

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      I’m ignoring you’re requirements and am gonna suggest you use GIMP instead. In all seriousness, you may want to look into a dual boot situation where you have Windows in a partition just big enough to do all the work you need to do. You could also look at VMs, but I’m not sure how well they would play with something that is resource hungry like Adobe products.

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        Yah. I like Gimp and hate Adobes garbage AI but Adobe files are a requirement for work. I have another computer for Linux stuff but truly wish I could get away.

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      Tried dual booting?

      Linux for personal, Windows for work? I’d personally not mix work and personal on same device. Failing that, same OS.

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    Ages ago I suggested installing Linux on my partner’s parents old desktop. It’s still running win10 but it’s pretty slow, likely from a decade of bloat. Probably a HDD too which isn’t going to help. Saying Linux scared them.

    Recently they were told it is no longer supported and can’t update to win11. Or some kind of popup like that anyway. They asked if it’s time to replace the machine. This time I said I could put a lightweight OS similar to what a Chromebook has and they are much more interested. Probably also look at sticking a small SSD in there, it’s only used for web browsing.