The moment when Harambe died was when the timeline split.

Shits been weird since Leonard Nimoy died. So make that 2015.

It was kind of a meme that 2016 sucked. Then Trump got elected at the end and everything magically got better for everyone and we all lived happily ever after.

(Do I really need to include the /s here?)

For real, how short is the meme maker’s memory? We went truly off the rails during the first Trump admin.

I relate 100% with this. How funny. Like, that’s perfect.

I came here to say the exact same thing. 9/11 changed the US forever in a bad way.

We were downloading MP3s on dial up.

idk, I was a kid and harry potter wasn’t real, so that kind of sucked for me

This is actually the right answer. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and we’re all still in the middle of what is essentially a no-declared-sides WWIII now. 2015 was good, but things had shifted in the world a bit. Countering China was starting to become a huge deal suddenly for the US, and China moved into the South China Sea and did some currency revaluation that was all aimed at their 2029 and 2049 CCP anniversary goals.

Also, I was in fucking phenomenal shape.

Its whatever best year you remember. From my perspective, its been sharply downhill since 2000.

Those older than me often say it went to shit during the Reagan years. Its been slowly getting worse for a long time.

And harambe

sept 11 was the first time the republicans had the chance to seize the opportunity to put america on track for its fascist fourth reichdom fantasy.

The terrorists ended up winning the long game in the end. They caused America to tear itself apart from within and made it a pariah on the world stage.

Almost makes the inside job conspiro seem not as crazy…

9/11 also marks the end of western hegemony as the West destabilized the world and ruined its reputation as a force for good in its pursuit for revenge, leading to the rise of BRICS and other anti-imperial coalitions.

9/11 also coincides with peak imperialism, the final stage of capitalism, which marks the point when increasing exploitation abroad has diminishing returns so capitalists must begin devouring the imperial core, leading to stagflation, enshittification, rent-seeking, and other parasitic activities. This in turn leads to an economically struggling population of former petit-bourgeois, which is a class condition that is especially susceptible to reactionary propaganda, leading to the rise of fascism.

Historians will almost certainly mark 9/11 as the beginning of the end of the American Empire.

In a way it’s fair to say that every moment changes every moment that happens after. The entire global economy is still reeling from Reaganomics ffs.

I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I’d seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.

From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off… And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.

Then it started snowballing… Bill Cosby’s a rapist, there’s a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone’s kind of okay with, we created AI but it’s only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn’t a crime if you brag about it, America’s war machine is being turned on its cities… Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.

It’s a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children’s book in an elementary school.

None of those are correct. There is before Harambe and after Harambe. The day he was killed everything changed.

I vote for 2016. The unthinkable happened.

Almost like something happens every 4-8 years. hmm

Boomer: 1968

Martin Scorcese: 33 AD

In their mind the world will end with their deaths, so they are only doing what nature bids them to do. If they had it their way they would detonate every nuclear weapon in existence within a few seconds of their final demise to take everyone with them.

Tell that to the zoomers.

Let’s be real- it was the US’s response to 9/11 that started the insanity. There was absolutely a way forward, but no- some shitheads gave the Americans a bloody nose and the US decided to try to stop the bleeding by stabbing itself in the heart for two decades while threatening anyone who pointed out that this was a bad idea.

Yeah its been a wild ride since 2001. I’m not even American but it felt like the whole world kinda shifted gears after that.

He got the three ghosts, he just slept through them.

Exactly. You have to go back to at least 2015 to find anything resembling normal life.

…And things still weren’t as crazy as they are now. To me that’s points towards the guys theory LOL

It went to shit when you dumb mother fuckers elected him for the first time in 2017. Stupid fucking idiots.