How come Star Wars gets a fuck ton of shitty sequels but the first TRON film in 15 years is a flop? I was waiting for this film since I was a child.
I’m not a big Leto fan. He’s not the worst actor, but he’s by no means great. But Gary Oldman couldn’t have made this movie work. The problem isn’t the acting, it’s the script. The movie felt like it was designed and written by a marketing committee. Everything about it is formulaic and hollow.
I mean, he’s also a sex pest. Maybe that’s why people didn’t want to see it.
That’s certainly never affected box office receipts before now…
Shit writing was to blame. Leto may be a plank of wood, but its the writing. Disney has been repeatedly hiring based on anything but merit for a long time, and this is the latest result of it. I mean, for the big return for Star Wars to big screen was supposed to be a Rey movie. And they choose a woman with zero, ZERO, feature experience. Never mind big hollywood tent pole experience.
In the case of Tron Arse, they went with a writer whose only claim to fame is the run of the mill Terminal List, and someone else who has mostly shorts in their resume. And as for the director, they went with the guy who directed the worst pirates movie and the Maleficent sequel. And thats it.
Where are all the big talents? Why does almost everything Disney do look very pretty, but little else? The problem with Disney, is its higher ups who keep on making stupid choice after stupid choice. If youre spending a couple of hundred million on a movie, maybe throw some of that money at established genre writers, ffs. Stop making slop, and thinking the fact it looks and sounds pretty is going to do the heavy lifting. Not everything can have the luck of a shitty dinosaur movie…
I caved and saw Ares last weekend. Tron legacy is one of my all time favorite movies so I’ve always been wanting another and would occasionally look up rumors about sequels. When the Ares trailer dropped I was super excited…until the end when it showed Leto. I had forgotten the rumors had mentioned he was involved.
Still, I went and saw the movie. It’s by no means as good as legacy, I scored it a 6/10. Something that I’d rather not watch again, but also something that I felt wasn’t a complete waste of time. But I’m easy to entertain.
What stood out to me while watching Ares was how well legacy holds up today compared to current special effects and CGI. Doesn’t really seem like much difference in that regard between the two movies. Of course, Daft Punk’s soundtrack is second to none, but I think NIN still did a good job.
Guess I’ll just need to continue rewatching legacy whenever I feel the Tron itch, which I’m not complaining about.
This is a funny headline after getting a commercial for 'Tron: Ares, the best selling movie this year"
“If they believed the last ad, they’ll believe anything”
Disney pulls the plug on Tron after it bombs at the box office.
Disney puts future Tron films on hold after Legacy disappoints.
Disney cancels Tron Uprising after one season due to poor viewership.
Disney cancels Tron 4 after Ares underperforms…
I’m pretty sure the problem is Disney.
Or Tron itself. It’s also named in every sentence of yours…
It’s the same problem that every mid 80’s zeitgeist based resurrected IP faces:
The zeitgeist the movie is based on has been dead for at least 30 years.
For Tron, personal computers aren’t new anymore. The concept of a digital city is so much less exciting once you’ve lived with the internet for 20 years and heard mark Zuckerberg wank endlessly about the “metaverse.”
The concept of Tron,is a good one. And the first movie, while not perfect, is pretty good. Theres enough there, that Disney could have created its very own Star Wars franchise. Instead they bought Star Wars, and gave it the Tron treatment to make sure that died as well.
The problem is very much Disney. With Marvel, they got the right creatives together to make mostly solid movies that people liked. Over the past 5 years, they have pissed all that away with being Disney things. And a few months ago, I read that they were looking for another ip to buy so they could bring the gen Z male audience back… Which is telling as fuck, when they have Marvel and Star Wars, but dont know how to make them appeal to the younger male audience so much that they need to buy another IP.
Something Tron fans seem to forget, and Disney forgets it every so often, the first Tron was a significant failure as well. Yeah, flashy effects and a cool concept, but it wasn’t as relevant to a wider crowd yet. And Legacy wasn’t exactly a success in the box office either. Many forget that Tron appeals to a smaller crowd and isn’t the blockbuster franchise it should be.
Disney dont know how to market to boys. I was a kid when the OG Tron came out, and I loved it. But the marketing was non existent. There was very little in the way of pushing the movie into the hearts and minds of kids, the same way Star Wars, or heman, or transformers, or even fucking gobots had.
In fact, when I say Tron for the first time it was part of a disney kids double bill. That other movie being Something Wicked This Way comes… Which was, to say they least, creepy as all fuck. These movies went together like peanut butter and a sloppy dogshit.
Tron is a masterclass in how to fuck up a franchise.
Yes. let’s start with that.
After that we can go and have a look at the people green lighting new movies these days.
yes! but Disney won’t learn the right lesson
Leto has done some great roles. See Bladerunner. His problem is his manager that signs him up for every turd script Hollywood can generate. He’s the new Nicolas Cage paying off his IRS bills. Why does Greta Lee have a job in acting? Because she’s an Asian female?
Blaming an actor for a bad movie is like blaming one plumber when a building collapses. The problem is movies are now so expensive to make that they are made by a committee of risk averse accountants. If Quentin Tarantino tried starting today, he would never get to touch a film. The recent trend I do not understand is high audience scores for really terrible movies like F1. They recycled the script from Stallone’s Driven, even the main character. Both were terrible movies misrepresenting the sport. Fantastic 4? Proof that COVID-19 was a brain infection if audiences thought that crime fighting with a newborn was a plot line.
Looking at the comments, maybe. Though not because of his performance which was honestly fine. The film is fine, his performance is fine and I honestly left happy and excited for the next film.
If anything my biggest gripes were the beginning and a couple scenes in the middle where the sound was a mess and the pacing went weird. Have a theory as why but at the end of the day that only matters if you showed up to see it and seems like no one was interested which sucks for Tron fans.
I think the bigger problem is that it’s just moved away from what Tron is supposed to be about. Like the whole point of Tron is it happens in the computer world what is the point of bringing it into the real world. Then it’s just a weird sci-fi movie with sort of but not really aliens invading, and the market is saturated with sci-fi films with alien invasions.
This film is a weird mix of pokemon and superman 2.
That’s just it. The money bros are spineless. Alien invasion movies have a track record of making money. Making Tron true the source material is a gamble insofar as there’s no movie said money bros can point to and use as citation for projected revenue.
I mean, I loved the first film, and the second one was the second best daft punk music video (it’s not close though) but who really cares? Why did anyone feel like we needed endless shit Tron sequels?
The second one is a glorious movie to have in 4k bluray when you want to sit there and say “ooooh pretty” for 90 minutes.
Soundtrack is great workout music too
Disney doesnt appreciate people actually loving the movies and are just looking to try and squeeze more money from consumers.
They are not handling it carefully and staying true to the original because they simply dont have love for the end product. They want to push their shitty agenda about genders and grab money from people who will put up with their endless shit.
Also Disney is evil.
I hate Jared leto. Still went to see it because I like every other aspect of the film.
I was overall disappointed. Theres loads of good stuff in it. Like lots. One part I audibly went “oh wow that’s cool” involuntarily. However, the dialogue absolutely ruined it. And the actor for the main female was somehow more wooden than leto.
When usually, for me, Leto is the worst part of any movie he’s in. This time he was fine in it.
Also it ends on cliff hanger. I knew Disney were never going to continue it though like they never properly followed up on legacy. Disney are just too risk averse since to try hard enough to make something good. It’s irritating because almost all of the pieces were there, even with leto.
I’ve seen exactly one thing Leto was in that I thought he was very good in. WeCrashed. He NAILS the whole head-up-his-ass narcissist grifting everyone role. Hmmm…
Now that you mention it he was pretty good as Paul Allen in American Psycho. A despicable white collar criminal who is overtly racist and abuses their secretaries, then ends up murdered by his coworker who is jealous of how good he is at being a piece of shit
That’s the thing, he’s good when he only has to act adjacently to how he is normally. Then he nails it haha
Probably why he nails the performance in Lord of war too.
there was a post on reddit how the frontcover the tron movies always had a woman with the lead male actor, but for jared leto no woman wants to be next to him, so hes alone on the front cover.
