Bro, I’ve got like 25 hours in the Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster, on my Steam Deck and laptop.
Yesterday, an update caused the game to launch with a black screen. So I tried a few different Proton versions, before I start getting a new error.
I take a look at the discussion board for the game on Steam… Fucking Denuvo considers each version of Proton to be a separate “activation” and it will only allow five BEFORE LOCKING YOU OUT OF THE GAME FOR 24 HOURS.
I have never really given a shit about Denuvo before, but this is so fucking infuriating. I paid for this game. I’ve already played 25 hours of this game. Now I can’t fucking play it?
Unbelievable. Denuvo is fucking trash, and I guess now I’m one of those people who avoids it.
DRM is never for the benefit of the consumers.
Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster has fucking denuvo in it? What the fuck? Does it have multiplayer or something?
I know. Not that I’m aware of, no.
Thanks for the heads up, was going to get that for my wife to try. I’ll just spin up the ISO instead.
The game itself is outstanding (but I may be biased since the original is one of my favorite games of all time)
I agree. Said ISO is an image of the PS1 disc which is safely in its case :D.
Ahhh ok.
Worth checking out the remaster, even if you pirate it. Tons of qol improvements, and pretty good VA
Happened with the new DOOM too. I just wait for AAA games to remove DRM as a precaution.
I guess you were testing with multiple versions of Proton to see which one works the best? Otherwise, doesn’t make sense to have changed 5 versions in 25 hours.
If you were testing as such, the game publishers should be paying you for doing their job of quality testing.
I don’t think anyone read your last sentence lmao
Maybe they did and didn’t like that I used the technically incorrect term “quality testing”, instead of “performance testing”, which would be appropriate for this case.
Or maybe they just didn’t like me saying that the one benefitting from said testing should be paying equivalent value to the one putting in the work.
Anon discovers what it’s like to own a piece of media
I’ve been asked what a dvd is by a teenager. When I amended and said Blu-ray, they still had no clue. It’s only going to get worse.
It’s still the modern media format. They sell them beside checkout lines! Piracy aside, there really isn’t any other way to own your media, at present. Everything else is a rescindable contract. How do you propose people own their media? Are stores selling flash drives of movies now, and I haven’t noticed?
I don’t even own a player, for either format. Got 800 movies and years of TV shows on a pair of mirrored drives, backed to Google Drive. :)
20-years ago my ex-wife was talking to another women in line at Walmart, “Me too! We get all our movies from aXXo! He’s the best.”
And somehow people forgot they could steal media with impunity. :(
IMO we only let them think it was theft because they couldn’t do anything about it. Who di they think they are to say what I do with my stuff?
cookie for high quality reframe
It sounds like gog is pretty great, with their DRM free software.
I’m generally indifferent towards steam but I’m under the impression that they’ve contributed a lot to the recent developments in Linux gaming compatibility, and this has removed a pretty big hurdle for people who want to move away from windows, and I just think that’s swell.
They could try to offer a proper Linux Galaxy client, though. Especially since CP2077 locks some minor things behind being launched from Galaxy.
There will likely never be an official GOG Galaxy client for Linux, judging by the company’s utter disregard for Linux users. It was the most requested position on their community wish list, and they just removed it saying they have no plans on adding Linux support.
There is some CP2077 content you only get through GoG Galaxy ?!?
It’s pretty minor (stuff like a t-shirt with the Galaxy logo on it) but it’s kind of annoying that it’s locked.
heroic game launcher?
Keep in mind Heroic is completely third-party and lacks official support. So if a game you paid for stops working on your Linux system - you’ll receive no support and no refund.
That’s what I use but save syncing is still in beta and the absence of the (admittedly minor) Galaxy-exclusive stuff in CP2077 kinda irks me.
i rarely use it, so i am not familiar with the lack of festures.
i just wanted to throw the name out as it wasn’t mentioned yet
Well that sounds like a problem for Cyberpunk players, who I have no respect for
I’m playing Cyberpunk 2077 now for the first time and having a great time. Sincere question: why don’t you have respect for players?
CDPR’s business decisions around the game exploited their employees and socially conscious consumers. I don’t like white/green/pinkwashing and don’t like when people give money to companies that do it
Thanks. Finished doing research and reading more into this. As I understand it, CD Projekt Red (developer) promised no crunch time to employees, and then implemented it anyway for a period right before launch. Then did some mass layoffs after Cyberpunk launched while they struggled to right the ship and get the game in a stable state.
Never knew about this history which is sad, but I only grabbed the game since it was on sale a few weeks ago.
I do see some good happening there now. CD Projekt Red committed to no crunch time during the development of Phantom Liberty and offered it only as voluntary for employees, which was true and they met that commitment. They also stabilised the game. And finally the employees successfully unionised after the 2023 layoffs.
Small light at the end of the tunnel, but shameful practices with crunch time and abusing employees. No way in hell would I ever work 100 hours in a week for my job, severely and recklessly sacrificing my health and safety, even if it is “my dream job”. Companies need to delay their games by a few weeks rather than crunch their employees.
https://www.polygon.com/23909710/cd-projekt-red-union-layoffs/
They also said the game art with the massive gock was criticising corporations that fetishise trans bodies, and then they gave honorable mention in their cosplay contest to a cis woman who stuck a glowstick down her pants. CDPR is the corporation fetishising trans bodies
A fair point, although I wasn’t aware of much of it when I bought the game. I still play it because, well, the money’s already spent.
I own ~670 games on GOG and lease 292 on Steam.
I’ve played maybe five of my GOG games to completion. I’m a gamer, dammit!
“and lease on steam”
This hurts to read considering my hundreds of games on steam 🥲 I want to stay in denial and pray for no enshittification
It could happen to Steam one day. Definitely not any time soon. But as the company grows and ownership changes, there is the risk they could go public and IPO. After that point, it’s all downhill from there. However at this point in time and based on their history, GOG and Steam are both excellent platforms to do business with.
I didn’t start using GOG until I got a slap in the face with reality that I don’t own my games. I was ignorant and complacent back in the day when App Store purchases on Apple’s platform disappeared or I couldn’t download them again. “That sucks. Oh well. Damn.” is what I used to always say to myself over a decade ago. Funny that it took a beloved game - parts of it anyway - to where it finally sunk in how important digital ownership is.
Ubisoft is the company that taught me this valuable lesson. In August 2022, Ubisoft announced they would shut down legacy activation servers for their old single player games - https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/gameplay/article/decommissioning-of-online-services-september-2022/000102396. While multiplayer would disappear and was accepted (running online PvP servers for very old games doesn’t make financial sense), the termination of these servers would also mean that my DLC would disappear. I was a day one owner of Splinter Cell: Blacklist on Wii U, and I spent my hard-earned money buying all the content for it back in 2012. Ubisoft was going to take away parts of my video game on a physical disc sitting on my shelf, because if I tried to run the game and install the DLC, the console would make a call to an activation server that no longer existed and preclude me from accessing my paid for content. Now, all those video games sitting on my shelf from multiple console generations suddenly looked less permanent. How many of those single player games required online functionality to work? I always (and still today) buy cartridges and discs where possible because I believe physical copies are superior. Splinter Cell I purchased at least three times because I loved that game - on Wii U, on Uplay, and then on Steam. In 2022, Ubisoft shut down those activation servers and they took my purchases away from me forever. Now, I can only play parts of the game that I paid for. And Ubisoft doesn’t get my money any more (although they haven’t been for a long time since they keep release middling games).
Since that day, I learned a valuable lesson and have since directed most of my game purchases to GOG, where my GOG library has significantly skyrocketed past my Steam library.
P.S. - To this day, I still email Supergiant annually to beg them to release Hades on GOG, and show them the growing interest for their game in GOG’s Dreamlist: https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/hades-2020
Thanks for sharing your story ♥️
It’s like Pokemon. Collecting is the game.
GOG is awesome!
I would love to buy all my games from gog, but they lack steam’s regional pricing in my region, so most games are 4x the price on gog.
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You try being happy about it when a game costs $240
Would a VPN to USA work?
If the issue is a lack of regional pricing, changing regions won’t have any impact.
If the worst should happen, I will sail the seas to reclaim my ownership.
When you don’t earn dollars, it’s a lot of money.
GOG does have its issues and controversies, but it’s still the only online gaming store with conditions I find acceptable. If the game is not available DRM Free, I don’t need to play it.
I love having to individually download all 50 parts to a game and write my own install script (the GOG experience on Linux).
Heroic works pretty well.
I can second this.
You- you what??? Why. Lutris. Just use lutris, holy shit.
Lutris downloads files from GoG using their API, which has heavily throttled download speeds. It was going to take 19 hours for CP2077 to download using Lutris.
Downloading the 50 pieces individually from GoG through the browser took under and hour, but was quite annoying.
If you don’t play any large games, you might not have noticed, but Lutris and GoG do not work very well together.
I always download the offline installers and install them via the generic “install from executable” option. I’ve actually never used the features for downloading games from online game services on Lutris. The whole reason I buy from GOG is I can download the offline installer and never have to deal with anyone else’s servers after that point. It works excellently.
There’s like 5 managers that support one click install on Linux. Why are you pretending to live in the stone age?
He likes it like that. Shit, he Loves it. Says so right off the bat. Just because this ain’t baseball doesn’t mean he’s not home.
I do love Steam, but at the same time, it required me to intall significant 32 bit support on my system. It’s just sitting there, using 2GB of RAM and 20% of a cpu while the window isn’t even open.
Half or more of all the games Amazon gives away through Prime are actually just GOG keys. If you already have Prime for some reason or another, you should be redeeming those free GOG keys.
I wondered why some guy on my Discord kept giving out tons of free GOG keys. Guess it’s probably that?
Amazon is doing what now? Well, I’ll be damned. That’s never been made apparent to me.
They have been doing it, quietly, for years and they have given away amazing titles too.
This.
I hate Amazon, but I’m subscribed to Prime and I’m getting a lot of free GOG keys.
I have so many games I might not have even thought to go out and buy because of this.
No regional pricing though. GOG is outrageously expensive in my country compared to steam.
Regional pricing is usually set up by the developer. Contact the developer of your favourite games and they may consider regional pricing, provided GoG allows them.
The site itself only accepts a limited amount of currencies, it’s even missing a few of the worlds most major ones. I think it’s most likely a limitation on GoGs side.
That’s surprising. I wonder of it’s actually not supported, or if companies just don’t bother to set it up? Seems weird they would do it on one platform and not the other though.
I love gog. Sure it means I need to pay (a small amount) for some decades old stuff, but it will work perfectly every time.
If only they gave a shit about their users enough to respect their requests for official Linux support. Various forms of this made 3 of the top 5 requests on their community wish list. Which they casually deleted and told people to use wine/proton.
This is not a consumer-friendly company. It just so happens that their consumer-oriented decisions led to profits. The moment this is not the case, they immediately change course every time. Same might be true for Valve, but at the very least we can clearly observe them sacrificing extra profits for a tiny minority of Linux users.
GOG is still mostly fine for Windows builds of games. You can support the devs and get DRM-free copies to store indefinitely. However, we shouldn’t blindly praise them and ignore the obvious bullshit they take part in.
I imagine that we Linux users are a very small share of their users. I don’t see anything malicious in it.
I disagree. It depends how you define ‘malicious’, but in any case I strongly condemn this practice.
CDPR is perfectly happy to pretend they’re consumer-friendly whenever it requires no actual work and brings profits. But the moment they have to spend a cent on changes to actually fulfill their users’ wishes (which they themselves published a wish list for, mind you) - it gets absolutely shit on and the users are told to stop bothering them.
This is nothing but a clear display of what kind of company this is. People keep praising them for doing so much for the users. Meanwhile Valve has been losing money for years, just to help a handful of Linux gamers. No corporation is your friend, but if you really want to go with the ‘least evil’ option - just buy the game on Steam and then pirate it for indefinite storage.
I’ll buy when there’s a native linux client.
Until then, “arr, maties!”
…and no, I’m not having a morality discussion about piracy. I do it full-well knowing it’s wrong.
That’s an odd thing to get hung up on. I buy more from Steam because the client is way nicer on Linux and they actually release interesting features for it. I could buy from GOG through Heroic, but they why should I expect them to properly support me on Linux when they don’t even bother to explicitly support Heroic (they do profit share, but that’s not quite the same), much less port Galaxy?
I personally don’t see piracy (i.e. boycotting) as a reasonable reaction here. It sounds more like you’re looking to justify piracy a deal looking for an excuse.
I’ll leave it there, but that’s my read here.
Why do you desire a Linux client?
I myself don’t want to have to open an extra software from the distributor, just to play my game.
It might then end up adding extra constraints like not being able to open multiple games at the same time on your multi-monitor setup.For the same reason I wouldn’t want a Linux client on Windows. It’s not made for it.
Valve/Steam can do it. Is there some excuse or reason why it’s unacceptable?
And Steam is downloaded the same on nearly every distro. The package is just an install script that translates any differing filesystem layout between distros. It all comes from Valve.
I’m trying to say, “Why have a client in the first place?”
I keep GoG games and I am happy getting to keep the offline installers and not having to open an extra GUI thing before running my game.I would love being able to run my Steam games without having to open Steam.
Now maybe you see some value in Steam giving the Achievements system and notifications to online-friends about your activity, but is it really required?If your point is about using the GoG Linux client to run Windows games on Linux:
- Yes, it’s a big deal. Steam can do it, but GoG is much smaller
- Lutris
I don’t buy GoG games that don’t have a native Linux download and I use the Linux installer, so again, I see no merit in having yet another app.
I use heroic because I buy games that don’t have a native Linux version, and because some of the games I own are going to get updated. Also, cloud saves. Having a platform I can easily see and immediately install my purchases from is nice
Ah right, I had forgotten the cloud saves. Those are actually a real value addition to consider using an extra client.
For updates though, I am happy to just re-download the offline installer whenever it gets released.
Of course, I am not buying from GoG, the kinds of games that won’t work unless constantly updated.Do you really keep track of it? I have like 20-30 games installed, and they update in the background. I don’t have to think about it and just play whatever strikes my fancy.
Do you really keep track of it?
No, I just don’t update them. The offline installers don’t come up as often either.
Also, I only have ~5-10 GoG games.
I think they might be talking about having to use wine or something? They’d be wrong, but that might have been what they meant.
It really is great if you’re on Windows, but I’ve run into issues installing GOG content on Linux.
I almost always used the windows version on Linux too. Personally I install via the exe installer like a caveman lol, but you can add your GOG account on Lutris and other programs to make it easier. Just found out about Minigalaxy, looks nice might try it.
It ain’t great that there isn’t an official Gog Galaxy for Linux. But we’re still super grateful for the lack of DRM.
Just about everything works fine with the default settings in Lutris.
It’s rare for me, but yeah, it does happen. I usually try Epic Games Launcher, Lutris, then Steam. If it doesn’t work with any of those, I ask for my money back.
it is literally the main thing I miss about windows
