I love leather, but I don’t love killing, so I just have a bunch of fake leather jackets – and they suck. I would love lab grown leather and lab grown meat.
I like the idea of lab grown leather that’s tweaked for desirable properties, thickness, toughness, suppleness…
Can we call it Fleather? 😅 F(ake)leather
Sounds good to me.
I’d rather wear Fleather than eat feat.
Mmm, the suppleness of Fleather™️ feels good on the skin, and in your mouth!
Fake leather varies in quality. The stuff made for luxary car upholstery and yachts is wayy better than dead cow skin. Has been for decades
Lasts way longer, more durable, can be worn every day, no maintenance required
Don’t eat meat. Other people will. Enjoy leather.
No, I cannot enjoy the byproduct of the meat industry.
I can respect that. But the point is that leather, as you said, is a byproduct, not a primary product. It’s not like hunters clubbing baby fur seals. People are going to eat cows, might as well use the skins. Or would you have those skins trashed?
I’m a leather craftsman, the majority of hides used in the industry are from cattles animals destined to meat consumption. Which means that skin is a by-product of our meat usage and would be destroyed if we didn’t use it elsewhere, like making bags and all. The only animals that are killed only for their skin are the “exotic” ones, like snakes, crocodiles, frogs, … etc. Which for me is kind of sad to see.
I’m excluding fur from all of this.
I mean we need to reduce our meat consumption anyway, especially beef for climate change and land/water use reasons, so it would be nice to have a leather backup once the current supply of beef cattle starts to dry up.
We already do. Synthetics
Then lab-grown leather pairs well with lab-grown steak
Lab grown meat is sort of a thing too. Its a good opportunity to cut down on natural meat production though i assume there are many other things used from a body that will still needed but maybe can be made effectively synthetically
Lab grown meat is fed serum from killed cows. It’s all bullshit.
You talking about the stem cells or cell lines? If so thats not true from what I read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat
“Cell lines can be collected from a primary source, i.e., through a biopsy on an animal under local anesthesia. They could also be established from secondary sources such as cryopreserved cultures (cultures frozen after previous research)”
And even if it were, it would at the very least reduce the amount of cow killing necessary as you get more meat per cow since meat can be grown. I also dont know how many times stem cells can be reused but they are often reused as indicated in the above quote.
If someone is profiting, it’s a co product
Yay!
Very soon we will have fake real skin on dildos!Bad Dragon seems most-poised to benefit.
You’ll still get shit from PETA.
PETA’s only thing is to remind people of the existence of PETA. They are a con of an activism org and can suck my metaphorical dick.
You should have said physical. Even if it’s PETA, blowjobs feel so amazing.
A mouth is a mouth
It doesn’t matter how perfect you are, Peta will find something bad about you.
I love this, and I hope they find success with this. I also hope they find a way to make it not look like something out of Ed Gein’s collection, because right now it’s hideous.
The only thing I’m interested in is the energy required to produce one kilo of each type, the cow’s lifetime methane emissions and the labs CO2 emissions.
Synthetics are always going to be less
Maybe we can breed gmo cows that hold their breath from beginning to end /hj
As long as its cost is the same or higher, nothing will come from this. Similarly to synthetic mica in cosmetics. It’s not only free from the ethical issues, but also higher quality. And yet, almost all companies continue using natural mica - sourced from India’s child labor - because it’s cheaper.
Another example is gelatin in jellies. It’s disgusting and makes inferior candies, but it’s cheaper and so all the companies use it.
The market’s invisible hand, eh?
Can you tell me more about gelatin? It makes inferior candies compared to…?
Agar is the best literal gelatin alternative, though it’s incredibly rare in jellies.
Where I live, vegan/gelatin-free jellies are usually made with either Pectin or with a mix of wheat flour, coconut oil and rapeseed oil. The latter is fairly common, and somehow makes delicious jellies. Even meat eaters I know agree that they are considerably better.
That’s new to me. Where I live agar is the inferior (read: less desirable, cheapest) ingredient to jellies when compared to gelatin (most common, but more expensive than agar) or konjac (best imo).
My personal preference is also konjac, then gelatin. I haven’t tried this pectin stuff.
What do you call the jelly made with coconut and rapeseed oil?
Agar may very well be inferior to gelatin. I’ve only tried it once or twice, because it’s insanely rare in my area. And I’ve never seen konjac jellies, so can’t say anything here.
What do you call the jelly made with coconut and rapeseed oil?
I don’t think it has any name of its own. It’s just some mass made of wheat flour, coconut oil, rapeseed oil and corn starch (forgot about this one earlier). Also not sure if all these ingredients are always together. You can find this combination in German company Trolli’s vegan jellies. Definitely others too, but this one comes to mind right now.
Konjac is from East Asia afaik, a plant extract (probably from a plant of the same name) It has a chewy texture that I really like. Also touted for being zero calories, has become a ‘healthy food filler’.
From your description the rapeseed/coconut oil ‘jelly’ sounds more like a pudding?
I don’t know if that image is the lab-grown or not, but I came here to say it looks like balls.
![those are balls] (https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/48c8b40f-4b35-47dc-9107-6570834a3837.gif)
Just give me dragon leather
who is very much alive, grazing at an animal sanctuary in upstate New York.
Riiiiiight. A farm upstate.
Did we finally figure out how to get four steaks worth of meat from a horse without killing it?
I feel this has to be a reference to something… And I really want to know
I believe it’s Dwight’s invention from the office.
George Foreman is still considering it.
I wonder how it will stack up to the mushroom leather.
sorry i like organic, free range, USDA, non-gmo, fairtrade leather. no big pharma stuff /s
FFS…lab grown meat, lab grown cow skin cells, they all grow being fed fetal bovine serum, which is not taken by donation.
So? How many die in those vs traditional methods? Why pretend to care about harm reduction and then shit on tech that could reduce it?
Pretty sure all leather comes from some cow who was living at one point…😛
Point taken. 👍
