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As far as I know, that’s not how epidurals work. Nothing goes to your brain. It just numbs the nerves in your spine and stops the pain signals from reaching your brain.
What you are describing is how epidurals are supposed to work. If the epidural needle is a mm too deep, you can inject directly into the spinal fluid which does go to the brain and is probably pretty amazing.
You sound like you kinda know what you’re talking about so… What’s the down side? There’s gotta be a reason not everyone’s chasing this high.
I had a hernia at risk of strangulation. I was in the ER and, basically, the plan was to chill it and have a doctor try and just jam it back in.
Buddy was like “I’m going to wail on you pretty hard, you want fentanyl?”. I was like “You’re the doctor”.
Anyhow, when that shit hit my veins I very loudly blurted “AAHHH, NNOOWW I GET IT”.
The staff was like “what?” And I kinda fumbled out a “Never understood why people fuck with something so deadly, until now”
Anyhow, totally opened my eyes to why street drugs are such a problem for the homeless. They have tons of problems… but you get those drugs and within moments… all your problems just evaporate. Completely understand how wildly alluring that proposition would be.
Funny thing, that. I was prescribed a fairly high dose of Oxy daily for half a year, then Morphine and eventually some other stuff depending on the doctor in question. At one point in the hospital a doctor had to “feel me up” pre surgery and she told me it was going to hurt like hell and I was going to get IV Fentanyl beforehand so I could get through it. I was like “ooh, this’ll be interesting” but it honestly did fuck all for me. She was wondering how the hell I could be hurting or even feel anything after the amount they gave me.
I was unlucky enough to have several surgeries just before 2020. It wasn’t all that fun having to go cold turkey afterwards when not a single doctor suddenly had time to keep up with all my shit.
Weirdly enough I get high as hell from Tramadol of all things, which many dislike strongly. I guess I just metabolize that shit really well. I was on that for 3 years straight before I decided to wean myself off. I still have to eat some here and there since one of the surgeries was wildly unsuccessful but anyway, to each their own I guess.
I can see why people got hooked on Oxy though, holy shit. It’s nice when you’re truly hurting though.
accidentally paralyzed
Usually diminishing returns. At least with heroin, that’s the issue.
That’s an issue with basically all drugs. Biology is amazing at adapting to its environment. Otherwise the many previous mass extinction events, uh… would’ve been a lot more massive.
There’s the ruining your life bit.
You’re considering chasing it now and you’re not even addicted yet. What happens when you decide it’s good?
God. Now I’m imagining some epidural addict rigging up a large series of hoists and pulleys to allow them to self-administer an epidural. Ain’t no ingenuity like addict ingenuity.
Just say no. The realization of culturally prescribed dreams is where it’s at. All smart people know that.
A lot of people are just squeamish about needles and recreational narcotics I guess. If you can conquer your fears the world is your oyster.
Downside of amateurs injecting hard drugs directly into their spines?
Yeah, for a moment I was thinking ‘I have to ask for this next time’. Like, they killed me last time they sedated me, so I probably have a good excuse.
But is that really what that would be like?
Probably not, and I’d just wind up awake for surgery, which is less than ideal.
apparently smoking weed regularly can make anesthetics less effective too. when I had to get put under recently (nothing serious), I was aware about that and told them ahead of time. they gave me a dose that apparently was supposed to put me completely out, and I just sat there for at least a full minute, fully conscious but incredibly relaxed, before they realized they would have to give me more. and then I definitely started to wake up in the middle and had just the briefest, vaguest awareness that they were moving around me before I was out again, so I assume they gave me more at that point. and then when I woke up after they were like “wow, already?”
Uhh… yeah this is exactly why you do a t-break for 72 hours before a surgery. Your life is the one at risk though, but your gonna traumatize a lot of workers if things go worst case for you. Best case, you’re a hassle and everyone hates you.
Or just tell the anesthesiologist what drugs you take on a regular basis like you’re supposed to.
It’s kinda besides the point. The reason we pay anaesthesiologists so much is because dosing incorrectly is lethal.
Telling them you smoke weed doesnt just shift the amount required to knock you out, it lowers the threshold of what is safe.
An anaesthesiologist is riding the razors edge of consciousness, and is trying to keep the dosage as low as possible.
Waking up in the middle of surgery is more common than most people expect, and most people who wake up are not actually aware they woke up at all because of the amnesia inducing drugs they use (usually benzos).
Fun fact for those still reading:
It’s not really like “I forgot what happened”, it’s more like “I never remembered in the first place”; consider a PlayStation without a memory card.
Aka anterograde amnesia, not filing things into long-term memory.
So no saving to disk, got it.
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I’d argue you had a bad anaesthesiologist
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Should’ve strapped you the first time.
Unless in the US, in which case if you wake up you may be in jail. Decisions, decisions…
there’s still doctor patient confidentiality, even if trump is slowly eroding that for example for abortion.
Please don’t spread misinformation, I’ve taken someone to the ER high in the Deep South (probably highest risk place to be caught high or with drugs in the US) and disclosed what they’d taken, all he got was proper treatment. Taking drugs should never stop you from seeking medical help if you need it, the doctors and nurses don’t want to snitch on you for it.
yes, I know, and I did. what I had read was not to smoke for at least three days, I decided to do four. I asked the doctor like two weeks in advance if there was anything else I should do, he said no, it should be fine. everyone was aware of everything and all the doc’s instructions were followed. obviously I didn’t go in stoned
I’ve never had any issues with anesthesia as a chronic user (I always disclose and modify usage as requested as well), but I live in a recreationally legal state so the anesthesiologists here might just have more experience working around it. Or I might be lucky/you might be unlucky, who knows why the hell anything happens to the human body
This is basically the premise of Cabin in the Woods, isn’t it? Though it’s not clear exactly what the guy was smoking.
My wife is a medical professional who works in this space and when I told her this joke, she shared that this is not how epidurals work at all.
It doesn’t go into the blood stream. It only effects that area. And it wouldn’t go to the brain.
She says it’s possible it’s a psychosomatic reaction. But leaning towards it being a lie.
Shame, solid joke.
Or maybe this person was a patient and not an anesthesiologist so she got the specifics wrong…
Or you wife is lying to you because she doesn’t want you to try and fuck god.
The joke lands because anesthesia is weirdly complex—pain control, paralysis, and sedation aren’t always the same dial.
I’ve always refused epidurals.
If they fuck up i’m the one that ends up in a wheel chair or worse and they always make you sign a waiver first (which i sign with a dummy signature but anyway not gonna risk it).No needles near my spine, thank you.
A dummy signature is still a signature. It’s the act of signing, not what you sign. An X counts, etc.
unless the dummy is meant to be someone else’s signature, then it’s a crime
What if you sign “under duress”
Negates the intent to sign, cf any laws predicated on consent and being compos mentis.
Even if John Doe signs as Donnie Darko?
Pretty sure they can also fuck up general anesthesia and give you brain damage or kill you 🤷
A bit harder though considering they keep dosage as low as possible.
The danger varies based on patient history and type of operation. General is sometimes more dangerous, especially in older individuals. Both are pretty safe in the right circumstances, but spinal anesthesia has a way bigger “yuck” factor
Anesthesiologists are the most serious doctors. Purely anecdotal, but I’ve never met one that can smile.
That’s because they practice on their faces during internship.
