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I’m gonna delete the account after selling my Quest 2 for the Steam Frame
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I backed the original Oculus Rift, and felt massively betrayed when they sold to Meta. :(
For years since I’ve been waiting for A VR solution that plays nice with Linux and is at least somewhat privacy-respecting, and I have been absolutely unwilling to buy a Quest device or anything else. I want to play VR but I’m not willing to sell my soul for it. So it’s been an unhappy but conscious boycott from me.
I too then am super looking forward to the Steam Frame because it’s the device I need to get back into VR and feel happy and excited about it, rather than disgusted.
Palmer Lucky turning into a Bond villain wasn’t exactly something I expected when I first saw him pushing the original Kickstarter Oculus
This has been such a depressing trend over the last few decades.
Fresh bright-eyed startup with a passionate creator develops some interesting and innovative product.
Gets bought out by FAANG, turns to shit and stops working properly or gets discontinued, and primarily functions as a spyware device.
That makes it sound like these startups have no choice in the matter. The funny thing is, you don’t have to sell your company to an enormous evil corporation if you don’t want to.
Depends on who your initial investors are and the contract you signed with them. They can and will force a sale if their RoI isn’t met in a specific time-frame, or if the buyout price reaches a certain valuation.
Partly true but Amazon has been known to make dupes of a product and sell it at a loss to drive the competitor out of business. I’m sure that threat lingers in some peoples’ minds.
They probably also promise the management team “you’ll still have creative control after we buy you”. Then turn around and replace each of them one by one
Yeah, I worked for an amazing company for 13 years, a big corporation bought it, and now I have my own business and my soul back. Same shit, “you’ll still have full operating control” and then they moved everything to India.
That’s just the inevitable endgame in a capitalistic society. Most startups’ end goals at inception are to sell out to a corporation.
Fortunately, GabeN shows no interest in selling Valve to anyone.
Yeah they’re largely an anomaly in that regard.
Most people’s goals are to not have to work for a living. Selling a successful startup allows for that to happen. Unfortunately, the startup needs to start making money after someone pays a lot of money for it, and we all know what happens next.
Same, still got the devkit 1 and 2 in my cellar.
Really looking forward to the Steam Frame to finally get standalone VR without Meta involvement.
Have they sent out Dev kits yet? I know a game dev who is making a VR game on steam and he’s had nothing but radio silence from valve.
Haven’t heard anything yet.
Steam creator is also a Linux fan boy btw
It’s infuriating, really.
Add 1 Jan 1970.
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At least be exact! 1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z.
Or if they allow it, just 0
I just pick random shit. Pretty sure Steam thinks I’m 113 years old.
Admittedly this did backfire once when a company wanted my birthday to verify my ID to unlock an account. They were surprised I lied and I was surprised people don’t.
4-20-1969
1969-04-20
I see ISO 8601, I upvote. Simple as.
Nice.
Ha ha very nice 😏
20-04-1969
ante diem xx Kalendas Maias de anno MMDCCXXII ab urbe condita
The downvote?
Shitty formatting YYYYMMDD sorts chronologically and alphabetically
And with minor formatting is the actual ISO standard.
Thankfully I haven’t had to use any Meta products for a while now, and as far as Alphabet is considered I’ll turn 126 years old on 01/01/2026 and live where my country’s parliament building is. Because fuck them, that’s why.
I can’t even access any Fakebook crap, because I have blocked any Zuckerbot service since a long time. It don’t exist anymore for me in the web.
What’s this extension?
Desktop app Portmaster
I deleted Facebook 12 years ago. Just join me on the fediverse like Mbin or Mastodon.
Do you do much buying and selling of used goods?
In my area, Facebook Marketplace is unparalleled, alternatives such as Craigslist don’t come close.
The Netherlands has marktplaats app for this. Our local app in our country. No fb needed.
Mastodon is pretty awful still. Microblogging in general is awful but Mastodon has some particularly (in my opinion) awful fundamental design decisions. I don’t want to hate on them, so I won’t discuss what those things are. I appreciate that it exists and hope it does see more adoption but it’s just not for me, and I don’t know that it ever will be.
Add to that that I’ve never spoken to a human IRL that even knows what it is, and it’s not because I don’t ask. And that makes social media pretty unsocial.
Facebook has a ridiculous number of things you can do with a single account. On fedi those things all require different accounts and require people to follow all those different accounts. Bonfire looks like it may be a potential solution for that in the future.
Not saying that Facebook is great, at all, but that fedi isn’t really a suitable alternative.
At the end of the day people obviously just don’t care enough about any of these problems and have no self-respect and I’ve just pretty much sequestered myself from society entirely.
Try my project Mbin.
This is not my being snarky, but I bet you didn’t. I bet you “deleted it” and Facebook will happily reactivate it for you any time they want
So Zuck can boast about “hAvInG 3 bIllIoN uSeRs”
true, you can’t trust them… so who knows.
on that note I finally deleted facebook. Goodbye meta!
I’m glad that John Carmack is rich and intellectually stimulated, but watching him be wasted building Metaverse VR was like trying to remove my own teeth with a pair of pliers.
yup. absolute waste of a Carmack right there
Oh, goody! Maybe they’ll send me a present! Can I send them my address, too, so they know where to mail it? Meta is so nice!
I feel like posting about Facebook on /c/Privacy is like posting a photo of the dictionary definition of surveillance. Like, YEAH. WE KNOW.
Because it is not a post about Facebook but about the VR Headset Quest 2 and/or 3.
Sadly, the Meta Quest is kind of the best deal in the PC VR world.
There’s a reason it’s the cheapest. You pay with your privacy.
Well there is that but there’s also that they’re just trying to make the Metaverse happen, so to speak. Get as many people as possible onboarded and using the product and making it mainstream before recouping losses. Fortunately that’s a stupid idea with no practical value and it seems they’re starting to realize that so they’ve reallocated the budget to the next stupid thing they’re trying to make happen with no practical value.
It’s more than that. It’s a hostile business move to corner the market and kill off other brands, they absolutely had the money to accomplish this. The brand image? They failed that speech check. Beyond that, there simply isn’t enough interest in VR to make a killing off of a monopoly even if they had one.
It’s a hostile business move to corner the market and kill off other brands
Huh? How do you figure that?
The brand image? They failed that speech check.
What?
there simply isn’t enough interest in VR to make a killing off of a monopoly even if they had one
You and I know that but it didn’t stop Fuckerberg from sinking tens of billions of dollars into it.
A) sell at a loss to take smaller players off the board because they can’t compete at those prices. Because they can’t afford to sell at a loss.
B) speech check is an RPG saying. Basically they’re trying to fool the user but the users didn’t fall for it.
C) correct. He made a mistake thinking he could get people to use VR on a level like WALL-E or ready player one. He tried to make one dystopia happen and failed because we’re not quite at the level of desperation that we need or can acceptably make VR vacations a viable product.
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Yup, i paid my $1,000 for my index and it was the best purchase I ever made love that thing. I’m definitely getting a steam frame as well not because I don’t love my index anymore but it would be nice to have something that is a little more flexible with the space.
A difference without distinction.
I’ve had an account under a nickname for coordinating dog meetups for ages. One day the account was suddenly blocked without prior notice and the only way they would let me in again is by giving them my ID, which would not help as the account was under my nick and I would never give them my ID anyway. They didn’t even let me delete that effing zombie account without identifying my name as real or even just change the Nick to something FB recognises as real name.
They’ll ghost you even if you do give them everything they ask for. I can’t even make a new account under my real name or anything close to it anymore.
It sucks it’s the only realistic platform for discovering and getting info from interest groups in my area.
the only realistic platform
you know of, I don’t know where you live (nor do I want to) but alternatives do exist and if not you can self host some.
Ah shit you’re right! They’re going to love having their social media on stevesbasement.social. So accessible to the general public!
Your sarcasm and learned helplessness help BigTech. I didn’t say it was easy, I said it was feasible.
I’m not denying it’s technically feasible. I do deny learned helplessness. I have limited energy in life. Using it on making a change I’m not passionate about is a recipe for severe burnout. If i get more involved and find there’s sentiment towards a migration away from FB then I’d spend some energy on building and facilitating that. Barging in and making demands isn’t an effective way to build community. You can introduce ideas and develop them over time to show that it comes from care for and dedication to the org.
So yeah it’s unrealistic on the time scales I’m concerned with.
When you generalize your position about your available time and technical knowledge as the limiting factor for everybody you are not saying it’s impossible for you, you’re saying it’s impossible for anybody and everybody. That’s the problem. It’s like saying “I don’t like this food” versus “It tastes bad!”. For you they are equivalent, for others they are totally different. I’m not saying you, or anybody else, should learn about self-hosting (federated) social platforms then set some up, what I’m rejecting instead is giving up pre-emptively on the behalf of others because it’s giving power back to BigTech.
I haven’t generalized anything beyond the extents of
- my area geographically
- The groups in my area which i interact with
- An individuals weight within a community over time.
I have not said it’s impossible to do for me and have made no claim on the ability for others to do it.
I’ll give you so much as i didn’t append “for me” or “in my situation” to every sentence, but the statements lay within the context provided in the rest of the post.
Just lie and make up a fake birthday
And a fake name.
And a fake face.
I don’t think they care if its your real birthday. They just want the data. Deny them the data, don’t use the service.
Is garbage data worse than no data?
No. It means you’re still theirs and so badly you’ll even lie for them. And you don’t have the backbone to say no.
December 7, 1941.
How to tell the techs you’re lying without telling the client
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I do 1/1/1984 but also a good idea
I went as far as scanning my passport for these @ssholes and they still banned me 😂 to this day I have no clue why
Because you’re nothing to them
People just submitted it.
I don’t know why.
They “trust me”
Dumb fucks
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