So where does the excrement go, on the lid?
The lid always goes down when not in use at my house.
“It’s a shit receptacle, not a water feature” has been repeated to anyone who doesn’t know the rule.
I’ve had my neighbor get their sewer line worked on that somehow resulted in making my toilets explode with sewer gas and shit particles.
The lid stays down.
I genuinely cannot understand why someone wouldn’t want their seat and lid down at all times when not in use.
I switched out to the slow close seats so there’s really no effort or slamming. Just push, wait 2 seconds, then flush.
I would agree, but just yesterday I was visiting my mom and she asked that we leave the lid up in the rarely used guest bathroom because with it closed, it encourages mold growth. So I guess there’s that.
That’s a fair case. We don’t use one of our tubs and every once in a while we have to flush it with water because we get sewer smell. Unused bathroom facilities apparently cause problems.
Make sure you work the valves on toilets, showers, tubs, and faucets as well. They will dry out if you don’t and then you’ll get leaks.
Isn’t the smell just because the airlock dries out?
I think so; that’s why we run the water.
This might be true if there is existing live mold somewhere in the toilet (for that, monthly tank bleach tablet) but otherwise a lid prevents spores from settling in the first place.
Humidity reduction by ventilation can slow/delay mold but only eradication stops it.
Well they’re on a well with a septic tank which means no chlorine in the water and they wouldn’t want put a bleach tab in because of the septic. But I agree it would be good to eradicate it if possible.
It’s late, I’m drunk, I barely remembered to get the seat up before doing my business, and I’m used to living on my own.
Even when I lived alone and was drunk, I closed the lid. Doesn’t make sense to me.
Lots of things don’t make sense when you’re drunk
Flushing with the lid up is gross. I do not want to have poo particles flying around and landing on my toothbrush. But maybe that is just me… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is exactly where I sit on this debate. Flush with the lid down and it’s a non-issue!
sorry to ruin your life but mythbusters tested this and no matter how much protection your toothbrush has there will still be poo particles on it
Fair enough. But if any poo particles are getting on my toothbrush when the lid is down, more will be getting on when the lid is open. Besides, I also keep the toothbrush in a cabinet so double protection.
That was part of the test, there was essentially no difference. The particles that can become airborne are small Enough they floating around everywhere regardless of how they get out. The real problem is how huge the gap is between the seat and rim. Needs a rubber skirt or something
I tracked down the MythBusters in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXdaPJAcjC8
Needs a rubber skirt or something
well, they had some toothbrushes as a control which were not even in the bathroom, and they ended up with similar levels of fecal bacteria, meaning that these things are just everywhere. Only solution is to live in a sterile plastic bubble.
I wonder if a high flow rate hepa filter right above the toilet would help lol
IIRC they even tried putting it in a separate room without a toilet and it still got poop particles on it.
The obvious solution is to move to a country where toilets aren’t put in the bathroom.
Or just crap in next door’s begonias.
Again?
The only problem with this is that if you get an incomplete flush, you’re leaving a big, beefy lurker for the next person to come along. But it’s an acceptable risk.
I just take a quick peek once the flushing is done.
Put seat down, flush, wash hands while it’s flushing, then quickly check (and clean if necessary).
And then wash your hands again right?!
for the first time…flushing is not that long of a operation.
Depends. If I only lift the lid no (since I’m not touching anything dirty), if I clean yes.
If you flush with the lid down, don’t you consider the lid dirty, since it caught all those “poo particles” you are scared of “flying around”?
The dirty part is on the inside. I open the seat by grabbing the outside.
Also, I’m not “scared” of any “poo particles” “flying around”.
Toilets are gross. Put the lid down. There is some study I read that said flushing the toilet throws lots of bacteria into the room. Shut the lid before you flush.
Mythusters found fecal particles everywhere even when the lid was down. There’s no escape from gross, just finding an acceptable level.
If I’m remembering right Mythbusters found that there were fecal particles everywhere, but in wildly different concentrations depending on the conditions (like the control being in the kitchen)
I’d have to re-watch those segments. The part that remains stuck in my mind is that they found fecal particles on a toothbrush that was in a closed drawer.
I don’t believe closing the lid helps that much, and I grew up with (and still have to deal with) a toilet that sometimes but not always needs a second (or third) press of the handle, so I keep the lid open so I can be sure the water really got flushed. (It drains the tank into the bowl, but sometimes it just slowly, but steadily, flows through roughly maintaining water level instead of crossing a pressure (?) threshold and flushing out the bowl and then refilling.)
But, I’m all for closing the seat and the lid when you are done. It keeps pets and dropped items out of the bowl, if nothing else. If we have to leave the lid up, I still say seat down; that’s the “ready to use” configuration for all female and some male uses.
Those fucking air blower hand dryers especially.
Video is unavailable in my region, but thanks anyway.
Yes. Close your biological waste disposal units, ya crude yokels!
Unless you’re immunocompromised it doesn’t make a difference. “Unhealthy” bacteria is literally everywhere. You have an immune system for a reason.
Then all the bacteria are flung onto the lid, and when I sit down I might touch the lid with my back.
There’s plenty of bacteria in the air already, a million more aren’t going to hurt. Unless you have a norovirus, then you need to disinfect with bleach after you’re done.
You touch your back to the lid??
You don’t think there are plenty of bacteria on your back already? Not to mention it would likely be on the back of your shirt. What’s in the air goes straight into your lungs.
Lid down gang. Stop leaving your toilet seats up.
Oh… I’m already doing that with my wife and in any case I’m always sitting down. I thought it was more commun to do that.
I mean I always thought it was more hygenic to prevent the “splash zone”…
You might think, but a couple of weeks ago, uhh, a friend was sitting on the toilet at work when m…, I mean his equipment retracted and shot a stream of urine over the rim, which fortunately(?) was contained by his pants and underwear. Reportedly, he had to drape them over the vents in his urine-smelling office until they were dry enough so that he could go home and change clothes.
Beginners mistake, you should always wield a semi when doing this.
Ive always put the lid down along with the seat. I believe its more sanitary and has the added benefit of women not falling fully in the bowl like when the seats up. Ive done this for about 15 years.
A few years after I started doing this, I was spending the night at my friend’s house. I had to get up early to go to work, so I was first up. My friends mother got up next apparently. I was bombarded with texts and such, her mom was angry because she got up and went to the bathroom and just went for it after she sat down. Queue giant liquid waste mess to clean and an angry start to her day.
All these years later, I still think its one of the funniest things I’ve ever been part of in real life.
I was gonna say you’d be surprised how many waste particles fly around the room with the seat up - but from the sound of it, even more went everywhere with it down!
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“These invisible particles go on to coat and spread onto surfaces like floors and counters; or objects like hand towels, bathmats or even toothbrushes.
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Toilets are scientifically proven to continue to produce contaminated toilet plumes over multiple successive flushes as indicated in the above video.
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Toilet aerosols are known to contain Norovirus, SARS Coronavirus, Salmonella and many other Diseases.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plumeTLDR: always put the lid down before flushing.
I agree with the conclusion, but your toilet doesn’t simply spawn SARS viruses.
Yeah, I’m going to guess that if my toilet “makes” those diseases, it’s because I already have them.
I don’t know you, but I’m willing to go out on a limb and say that you haven’t seen my toilet.
This study has been reviewed by other researchers, the original study chose an industrial toilet with a power flush. Notice how this toilet doesn’t even HAVE a lid. It’s like what you find in a hospital, they’re designed to basically flush a cornish game hen in 1 second.
Your 1.6L swirly home toilet doesn’t do the same, you can use a laser level to see for yourself. If the swirl is turbulent it’ll spray some, but lots of toilets don’t really emit mist much at all.
Well, that’s a bit of a relief.
I still believe that my regular toilet has a plume because I can feel the moisture of the droplets, so I’ll continue to keep the lid down, but still good to know that it isn’t that spectacular.
I never understood the debate. Ensure it’s how you need it before doing your thing. Applies equally to all individuals for any scenario. Not difficult.
Women say it needs to always already be how they need it before doing their thing. Men are lazy and want to leave it up after peeing.
Me, I put the lid down before flushing because otherwise a minuscule amount of pee would probably splash out of the toilet. Would it be more convenient to leave it up all the time? Sure, but then there’s more cleaning to do and that’s less convenient again.
I reject the lazy argument. It could just as easily be applied in reverse. The person using it should make sure. Simple.
“This debate would be solved if everyone would just agree to one choice.”
Too bad women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up. Men are willing to meet them half way and put the seat down for pooping.
Plebs in this thread don’t even have a poop man to hold the poop bucket for them when they poop standing up smh my head.
^ /s ?
S is for sarcasm. I don’t think i was being sarcastic. I wasn’t serious either, just making a funny comment in response to another funny comment.
women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up
I think that’s sarcasm, unless you actually meant to communicate that women are stubborn.
In any case, I think due to Poe’s Law, you’d have gotten better votes if you included “/s” or “j/k” or another marker. (But, votes might not be a concern to you.)
I grew up with a dog. The toilet seat was always kept down to keep him away from drinking it, because we had toilet cleaning pucks in the tank that would have potentially poisoned him. Nothing to do with gender at all.
Also the mythbusters episode on toilet water splashing out onto bathroom surfaces scarred me as a child. We have a soft-close lid and I wait a few seconds for it to get to a low angle before I even flush.
The mythbusters episode convinced me. That water flush makes everything spiral upwards, and it lands in your toothbrush.
People who don’t put the toilet seat down are unaware they’re brushing with shit particles.
There are such things in this world as particles.
Particles so small that you cannot possibly detect it with your naked eyes.
And I put it to you that there are particles of human shit lingering in the fibers of your underpants.that’s why i keep my toothbrush wrapped in paper while i’m not using it.
The poo particles fly out of the bowl, into the hallway, curve into the bathroom, and then land on your toothbrush?
There’s eiher some crazy wind paths in your home, or some idiot put your toilet in the bathroom.
Yeah, any real gamer has it built into their chair
Everybody saying keep the lid down for hygiene reason are missing the most important reason to keep the lid closed. Anything dropped or falling will inexorably end into the toilet if the lid is up.
exactly. we keep the lid open so the cat can fall in if he decides to be a dipshit
The lid should be down before you flush.
Would you put your face 8cm above the bowl as you flush? No! Even with the lid down. Any dude who’s ever pissed anywhere barefoot or in shorts knows the splash radius…Lid should go down unless you want all the poopy microparticles coming from your toilet when flushed.
