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  • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
    131·
    10 days ago

    BTW, it’s okay to ignore the story on Stardew Valley. Never let anyone tell you you’re playing it wrong. There’s no such thing.

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      16·
      10 days ago

      I hate that devs put options in games and people think you’re bad for choosing it. Heaven forbid I want to experience Undertale’s genocide route or Stardew’s Joja story.

  • mushroommunk@lemmy.today
    58·
    10 days ago

    My friend are planning to start a co-op run to get “There is no Spoon” and “Express Delivery”. I’ve never launched a rocket and he’s launched more than Kerbal Space Agency.

    Wish us luck.

    • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
      21·
      10 days ago

      In Space age, you can get these fairly comfortably, especially with two people. If you’re worried though, you can up resource size/richness/frequency and still get the achievements - just don’t turn on peaceful biters, I think

        • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
          81·
          10 days ago

          Careful about too many trees! Trees are the real enemy. I think you’ll do great - real trick is to just always know what’s next so you don’t waste time. Having a good set of blueprints doesn’t hurt either

            • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
              8·
              10 days ago

              Yeah, annoying to clear and not very useful after you get past basic power poles. They have a secondary benefits of messing with biter pathing and absorbing pollution, but for speedrun achievements (and even normal play IMO), trees shouldn’t be tweaked upwards

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
      4·
      9 days ago

      I’ve never launched a rocket and he’s launched more than Kerbal Space Agency.

      I thought you were talking about Stardew and was wondering how much of the game I was still missing out on.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      23·
      10 days ago

      ONI has amazing “process engineering” where you take some substance, use a machine to transform it into another, feed it into a third, etc.

      But, what’s extra great about it is that it also includes a pretty basic, but still fully functional simulation of chemistry and physics. So, you can feed oil to the oil refinery to get petroleum, but it’s only 50% efficient. If you want a more efficient process you can boil the petroleum instead by dropping oil onto something hot. But doing that generates petroleum that’s at hundreds of degrees so you need to cool it down. So, instead of just doing that, you can pre-heat the oil coming into the boiler using the petroleum that the boiler produces, creating a counter-flow heat exchanger that cools the petroleum while pre-heating the oil.

      • Darkmuch@lemmy.world
        14·
        10 days ago

        Factorio is great at making you automate to save time. Endless map, with more and bigger resource piles as you move away.

        ONI is about fighting entropy. Everything starts in a nice and easy to use format, but as you use it, you make all this waste heat and matter. It’s about finding ways to use all the waste products, or build natural means to convert materials by running pipes through areas of excess heat.

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          10 days ago

          Yeah, good description. Fighting Entropy is really the trick that makes ONI great. I just love how at the beginning heat isn’t even on your radar as something to worry about. You might not even know that the heat overlay exists. But, by the mid-game if you don’t start handling heat suddenly everything starts breaking.

          Also, the size is another big difference. Factorio has that endless map where you just keep expanding your conveyor belts. The further out you go, the more you have to worry about aliens, but after a while that isn’t much of an issue. Meanwhile in ONI as you start making bigger and bigger colonies, it starts to feel cramped.

          • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
            5·
            9 days ago

            The factorio dev blog has some good reads about finding the right balance of tedium as driving mechanism to figure out automation and also needing the game to be enjoyable. Basically the moment an activity becomes stale they want you to be able to automate it

      • Melobol@lemmy.ml
        10·
        10 days ago

        I do not want to admit how much time it took to build a working boiler. My magma volcano was under powered so the whole cooling with the oil generators didn’t work.
        Then I moved (destroyed the old one) and built a brand new in the core layer. Now that worked. But meanwhile my hydrogen production and oxygen generayors died down because the natural gas geysers and the excess co2 clogged my airways…

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          10 days ago

          Yeah, a minor deviation from a working contraption can mean it fails completely. They’re often really unforgiving. But, they’re so satisfying when they work.

  • binarytobis@lemmy.world
    391·
    10 days ago

    There are lots of stories like Last Starfighter where someone is recruited through video games for some fantastical job and some General or something is like “You have the highest score ever, only you can save us!” Always seemed pretty far fetched to me.

    But if we were going to another galaxy and they wanted someone to lay out production infrastructure? I could totally see recruiting based on most playtime on steam for Satisfactory.

      • binarytobis@lemmy.world
        35·
        10 days ago

        “Pack it up, space is cancelled.”

        “What, why?”

        “We left you alone for a week and now every square inch of this planet is completely covered in factories. It’s unlivable. We’ll have to get the Planet Crafter guy to terraform a new planet and start over.”

      • potoooooooo ✅️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        10 days ago

        Hand over the reins of one nation each to the top players of: Factorio, EVE Online, Dwarf Fortress, HOI4, Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, Cities Skylines, etc.

          • Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de
            3·
            9 days ago

            Oh God what fresh hell are you planning on putting people into‽

            “Yeah you got a house! It’s got a trapdoor over there as an entrance, a single chair like structure in the corner and a flat top lamp in the other one. I am particularly proud of that one because it’s both cheap, provides just enough light to count and can technically be used as a flat surface!”

        • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          9 days ago

          City skylines would be the best place to live, and would have a natural friendship with factorio.

          It would be a bit weird making a bowl of cereal and having a freight train blast up to your house at 200mph, a robot flies out of the depot just past the dog park, skims above the pedestrian walkways at just under the speed of sound, unloads the single stack of of cereal boxes that the train is carrying and sticks it in your pantry before they both vanish just as fast. You only had a half a box of raisin bran left and you hit the resupply threshold.

            • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              9 days ago

              I would recommend it. It can take a minute your first time through to get to some of the intense optimization stuff, but a lot of it’s there really early.
              The dominant gameplay loop by far is “you have tools. There’s a new problem to solve with those tools that’s hard/tedious. Solving it means you can make tools that make the problem easier. Goto step one”.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 days ago

      I’d keep getting screwed because in RL, you need to build supports before the building they support, not as an afterthought to make it look more realistic.

      “Need a bridge? Zoop mode, aaaaand it’s done!” Longest part of building a bridge comes from finding or fighting things on the way.

  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
    35·
    10 days ago

    I love Factorio but I had the polar opposite problem with Stardew Valley. I prioritized the dungeon, fishing, foraging, and the missable heart events, then when I ran out of other content I had to start slogging my way through daily back to back farming, selling, and gifting preserves in order to monotonously grind levels and hearts because all of the good buildable stuff is locked behind that wall.

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    9 days ago

    I like my idea for a Factorio movie.

    An engineer crash lands on a planet during a corporate visitation to another planet. Desperate, he finds his company’s schematic drive on factory creation. He builds his way up to a satellite, which is preprogrammed to beam his SOS home. Relieved, he hits the button to launch it, watches it go up.

    Then, looks down at everything he got to build on his own, with no oversight, no managerial correction, all his own efficiency. He’s even made his own greenhouses to make his own food. Automated a logistics bot to attempt a new mix of coffee each morning, warmed by residual nuclear reactor heat.

    Something stirs in him, and he “accidentally” veers the satellite 8 degrees off course. It sheers against the atmosphere and burns to a crisp, its wreckage destroying his semiconductor production (which is then rebuilt automatically within the hour). The engineer resumes his next project.

    From there, eventually a passing ship does a scan of the planet, curiously finding it inhabited and very industrialized. They send a lander to the surface to investigate. It’s shot down by a fleet of hundreds of missiles.

    The issue goes to Earth’s military command. They have no idea who is on this planet but need to take the threat seriously. Another scouting contingent is deployed, able to land on a safer side of the planet, but on the way down, they spot a “city” in which buildings are arranged in the words “GO AWAY”.

    Landing, the scouts work out that the nearby bots are from the corp’s schematics, and slowly work out what happened. They attempt a few more efforts to extract the engineer, now as a prisoner for shooting down a craft, but the “war” continues.

    Eventually, a psychologist is able to ask the engineer about his feelings of loneliness on the planet. He replies that he’s been alone for far longer than his space flight, and even on Earth no one connected with him - machines just made sense. He curses his company’s greed for infinite growth, and declares the planet is off limits.

    The psychologist accepts his terms - but also ridicules him, since his factory exhibits the same pointless growth as his company. And so, he remains, a prisoner of his own planet.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
        7·
        9 days ago

        Yeah if the movie industry got their hands on it, Jack Black would be the engineer and the machines would talk (or act like animals that perfectly understand him and communicate effectively via body language) and the psychologist would end up an unlikely love interest that ends up remaining with him and his wacky machines at the end of the movie.

        And after the conclusion, there will be a shot of his love interest looking at something in horror and saying, “ew, bugs!”, setting up the sequel that never gets made because the people who would like it aren’t drawn to Factorio, and those who are drawn to Factorio are disappointed that the only thing it has to do with Factorio is that it has machines. The execs played the game for 5 minutes and came up with a building system that involves him quickly building things by hand and Harvey Cavil quit production two weeks in, once it was clear they didn’t care about the actual lore.

  • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
    21·
    10 days ago

    Having way too much time in both, I view stardew as a gateway drug. It hooks you with cozy vibes but for sure rewards min/maxing. At least you don’t have to worry about UPS limitations!

      • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
        18·
        10 days ago

        Then you find yourself calculating if you should go home or pass out 100 levels deep in a remote cavern in a desert for a chance of getting something to pet your goats

  • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    10 days ago

    See, if you were playing a real game like Elin, you could actually lick it for a taste. Can lick anything with the right trait in Elin.

    Anything can be licked, anyone can be milked.

    Begin your dream of a dungeon crawling stripper commune now, in Elin.

  • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
    11·
    9 days ago

    There’s a game that’s like if Factorio was set in Stardew Valley. I just started playing it on a whim last night.

    It’s called Little Rocket Lab. I’m not to far into it so don’t take this as a recommendation necessarily, but there is a dog. You can pet it. You can play fetch with him.