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Last panel gets it wrong, though.
Rest of the world totally thinks that there is such a thing as original American food:
High-caloric, hyper-processed junk containing no significant nutritional value but much too much fat, fructose sirup and carcinogenic substances.
That, and watery beer.There is also the American national dish of cereal (frequently meaning lumps of coloured sugar mixed with lumps of different-coloured sugar).
I dont eant to hear anybody shit on our cereal while this abomination is still a thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagelslag
Dudes be eating sprinkles for breakfast and shit on our cereal? Gtfo.
Dude’s coming from a Swedish Lemmy instance, so quite probably is a Swede.
Swedes don’t eat Hagelslag, that’s a Dutch thing, so I guess he is entitled to stay ;-)
Cereal was made by old man kellog to feed to his insane asylum inmates at his battle creek, mi sanitorium, as a low protein food that would lessen the masturbation of the inmates.
He put mittens on some they could not get off so they did not whack it at night.
and promoted circumcision to stop even more masturbation
Fuck kellog. Fuck kellog. Fuck kellog. Fuck kellog. Fuck kellog.
FUCK kellog.
But only if the colors are so vibrant you’d start to believe that you’d been drugged
If one of those colors is red 40 then you have been drugged.
AFAIK, jambalaya, and gumbo are both USAmerican foods.
There’s also whatever the fuck the Midwest is doing, but we don’t talk about them.
Edit: but but
also barbecue and grilling culture is huge out here. not always fond of the US but damn I love a good cookout
l don’t dispute that (and also that they are probably great - had neither so far, as they are largely unknown here).
It’s just that nobody outside of the States thinks of these when they hear “US food”.
Also: The jello salad is hilarious!
Hadn’t it been a wikipedia link, I would have thought it to be you trying to pull my leg. :-)They’re delicious, and I make them a few times a year.
Yeah, the jello salads are… Something. The sweet ones are great! Fruits, nuts, whipped cream, all of that in jello is fine. It’s when people decide to throw celery and hot dogs in lime jello that it gets more than a little weird.
I just remembered that we have a very similar traditional dish in my home region (although only in the hefty variant with meat and/or vegetables):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sülze
And I also have to say, Schweinskopfsülze (pig head in aspic) is not as bad is looks, but certainly is an acquired taste… :-)
Also burgoo and hot brown, not only uniquely American but uniquely Kentuckian. Each state and territory has their own signature dishes like any other country.
The watery beer thing hasn’t been true in 30 years, and generally US beats the entire world for beer these days. Asian beer sucks in general, and Europe can usually only do a couple different styles well.
Comment was not about what is, but what the rest of the world thinks it to be.
And that is not fancy West Coast craft beer or so, but Bud Light and Coors, I am afraid…Don’t all countries have mass produced shitty light lagers or pilsners that don’t taste like much? As far as I know all European countries have giant corporations producing shitty beer. The ones I’ve had personally include Amstel, Kronenbourg, Bitburger, Stella, Urquell, etc, and they’re all universally one note with a light taste on the same level as Budweiser.
I wasn’t around to be drinking back when the “US beer is pisswater” stereotype was around, so I’m not sure why the US got singled out. Maybe the Bud and Coors types were all there was so there were no smaller brands to point to as a sign of quality. But if that stereotype is still around it’s from people who’ve been living under a rock for literal decades.
I had bread that tasted like a cake, and the Pop-Tarts made my teeth jump out of my mouth due to the amount of sugar they were able to concentrate in it. Can’t recommend.
Both 100% American.
The people were very nice though, so that was something.
Fun fact: orange chicken was invented by Hawaiian Chinese guys who ran the Panda Express in Honolulu. They wanted to create a dish that reflected the sort of flavors that were popular at Chinese restaurants in Hawai’i. So it’s not an “American” concoction. It’s rooted in the culture of Chinese in Hawai’i, who were invited to live and work in Hawai’i back in the kingdom days.
Now do Chop Suey.
Wake up
Grab a brush and put a little makeupSomething something keys and something table
Why did you leave the key up on the table
Appreciate you, but I think I had it right.
I know the line before that is supposed to be “Hide your scars to fade away the shakeup”, but it sounds so much like “I just masturbated with the shade up”, especially the whispered repeat after it. If you listen for it the scars line is clearly there, but I’m convinced he said something similar to get away with a line like that on the radio.
Pizza was invented in the US. By an italian immigrant, but it still counts.
in Hawai’i. So it’s not an “American”
Is Hawaii not in the U.S.? Or was it not in the U.S. at the time of the early Panda Express?
Hawai’i is not located on the North American continent, so it doesn’t count as “American.” I often describe Hawai’i to people as “it might be the United States, but it isn’t America.” The Chinese and Japanese cultural influence here is quite strong (particularly on O’ahu, where I live) and has deeply established ties. Chinese were invited here by King Kamehameha I to harvest sandalwood. Japanese came at the invitation of King Kalakaua, who actually went to Japan and met with the Emperor Meiji to try and establish economic connections to temper the over-influence of American and European influences during his reign. So when one talks about, say, the cuisine of Hawai’i, one is dealing with a fairly unique culture–one that was later annexed into the United States. So, yes, Hawai’i had long been a state by the time Panda Express operated here (which was started in California by Chinese Americans), but the culinary influence that resulted in orange chicken was rooted in something that goes back a long way. If that makes sense.
Fusion, mostly. Latino coworker from Texas told me Burritos are neither Mexican nor American, but a beautiful Texas border food fusion. Anecdotal, but the guys son is a professional chef.
Cali has amazing not quite Mexican food too.
Yeah, I mean when you have a European power colonize a native area, then the locals take over for a while before the noisy neighbor to the north re-colonizes it, then rebuilds on the labor of people that were already there (Surprise! You’re Americans now!), there’s going to be some back-and-forth culinary Frankensteining going on. For example; the California burrito.
What’s in the California burrito that the natives wouldn’t have made? Potatoes are from Peru.
In this thread: Europeans being casually xenophobic about immigrants in The Americas and the dishes they bring from home, thus proving this new community’s point.
Anyway while I’m on my European slander streak, let me tell you a story: One time i was staying in a hostel in Montreal and there was a French guy (like, a l’hexagon French, not Quebecois) there. He unironically said to me “A single tomato from France tastes better than this shit you call poutine.” That quote lives rent free in my head.
Also you wanna know why he was in Montreal? Cuz he couldn’t get a job in France. peak comedy
Ahh, the humble French tomato… which originated from the Americas…
Italians have the world convinced they invented the tomato. People will get violently disagreeable absolutely convinced the Tomato originated with Italians.
Oh damn, I did not know that tomato was a new world food, and from South America too (as opposed to Central and North).
The original cultivation of so many fruits and vegetables before the Columbia Exchange and then modern industrial agriculture is always really interesting.
The one that sticks in my head are kiwis - the modern kiwi is cultivated from a plant from China, which is somehow a source of a lot of cultivars that we eat today.
The stereotypical smoking French person wouldn’t exist either.
POUTINE??? THAT SHIT IS GASSSS!!!
Some people shouldn’t have opinions.
“Poutine” makes it sound so fancy, even though it’s just Loaded Fries.
Cuz he couldn’t get a job in France. peak comedy
Must have been replaced by all the doctors and engineers that have been imported into France.
Same with the argument of “we need to deport them to preserve our culture”. America has always been mix up of cultures and has a vastly different culture from state to state and city to city. New york wouldn’t have been the world renowned city it is if it didn’t have its diversity.
Alfredo pasta was invented in Italy.
The US invented its own dish and gave it the same name.
America has distinctive quick breads like southern biscuits and flapjacks, many desserts were invented by the Pennsylvania dutch (like doughnuts and approximately a billion cakes and pies), several excellent kinds of whiskey, a galaxy of unique bbqs, Cajun food, distinctive east and west coast deli styles, a distinctive style of fried chicken, chocolate chip cookies, deep dish pizza, french dip sandwiches…
The one I love is German Chocolate Cake. Invented in either Pennsylvania, or New York, the prole’s last name was German.
Especially funny as Pecans are a very American thing, they don’t even grow in Europe.
So probably a significant part of the US population thinks because of this cake that Germans bake Pecan based stuff, while most Germans (me included) haven’t seen a Pecan nut in their whole life. :-)Honestly most Americans think more about the coconut in that cake than the handful of pecans that can be left out of the recipe altogether depending on the area of the country that you’re in.
From what I can tell, most Americans don’t even realize that schnitzel is basically what they/we call “country fried chicken/beef/pork,” and assume that wörst in the form of various sausages, and beer are all that German cuisine consist of. Maybe some sort of doughnut as well, named after Berlin.
I don’t think people really realize how much food has changed in the past few centuries. I was talking with this Pakistani dude and he was telling me about this traditional dish. Like half the ingredients were from the Columbian exchange.
The amount and variety of spices we have is just crazy in a historical context. For most humans for most of human history, meals consisted of grains in a pot, whatever veggies you could scrounge up (which looked very little like they do today), and a little meat if you were lucky.
Same with Italian food. Tomatoes were only introduced to Europe in the 16th century.
Leonardo da Vinci lived his whole life never knowing what a tomato was.
Same thing in Italy. We act like our traditional dishes are something we’ve been eating for centuries while almost all of them became a thing after WWII, during the economic boom, when a lot of people became able to afford a larger variety of ingredients, the cold chain became efficient, and we started to import recipes and food from foreign countries, and anyway the original and popular version of some classics was completely different from what we eat today and consider traditional. It is still true that many dishes are peculiar of our traditional cousine, but the way we act about it is just patriotic nonsense. Pasta itself might be historically considered more of an us italian-american thing than an italian dish
Well at least our Finnish national dish is still traditional. Take cubed beef and pork. Put them in water. Add salt. Put on heat for a sufficient amount of time.
That’s it.
Fancy modern versions have peppers and whatnot but traditionally it’s just salt.
Salt. Don’t forget the SALT
Doh!
Hamburgers, meatloaf, gumbo, and all sorts of southern food is American.
*Edit. Some of you think hamburgers weren’t an American creation. Y’all are incorrect. The humburg meat was never put between bread. The sandwich hamburger is a US creation.
Hamburger were invited in Athens Texas. Just go ask that city they advertise that it was a man from that town at the World Fair in the 1930’s.
I have to think of a lot of fish dishes too. Since we only have them here. I don’t think Walleye is from anywhere else. Maybe I’m wrong.
Walleye isn’t a preparation, it’s an animal.
Preparing pineapple or mango isn’t native either and included in these comparisons.
I didn’t say anything about nativeness. Also seems like you forgot to finish your sentence, I’m really not sure what you are trying to say here.
Literary all of those dishes have origins outside of the US lol
So does all human society, this is a stupid argument.
I find it fascinating that almost half of the world has their own dumpling (ie. a small ball of a cheap source of protein and fat held together by a wrapping of flour dough; a peasant dish that’s most often boiled).
I bet if you they would all dispute the origin of that food item.
My point is that US people tend to claim ownership to a lot of things that were not invented there. I’m all for sharing culture and food and transforming them to something new, but don’t claim they are your invention.
Like as american as apple pie is an expression for a dish from Germany and the Netherlands.
My point is that nationalism is poisoning society and destroying the ecosystem, and this discussion isn’t helping.
That I completely agree with and concede the point.
Nah, I as an naturalized American citizen I do not want stuff I create to be called “Chinese”, its xenophobic. I mean, you can say “Chinese-American” to refer to me but not “Chinese”. Cuz why is a white US Citizen creating stuff labeled as “American” while stuff I make is not “American”? Double standards.
If I come up with a new food receipe, its American food. If I make a painting, that’s made by an American artist. If I publish a book, that’s written by an American writer. Don’t fucking try to “other” me.
We invented the chocolate chip cookie, man. That pretty much means we won. Lol
Haha, can’t argue with that logic. And cookie dough ice cream!
Meanwhile, German Chocolate Cake has nothing to do with Germany!
It was created by a guy with the last name of German…
That’s hilarious. I never heard of German chocolate cake. Black forest though is dope!
You’re literally wrong. A hamburger as a sandwich is a US creation. So is gumbo. Literally do a 2 minute search about it before “thinking” you know what you’re talking about. Lol
Dude, Hamburgers are literally named after the non-US city they originally came from…
But I have to admit that the refinement to its delicious present day form is an American achievement!That’s a Hamburg steak. Not a hamburger, since there’s no bun
Na, buddy. You’re wrong. The Hamburg thing is just about a mashed up piece of meat. Not the hamburger. Putting the meat in the bun to make a sandwich is 100% US like 125 years ago.
That’s quite disputed.
One of the more likely theories states that the bun idea together with the ground meat steak originated in Hamburg, where it was a variant of the common “Rundstück warm”, which has been around since 200 years ago or so.It’s less disputed than most food origins. I looked up your rundstuck warm food. Dunno why you’re trying to make that argument, because because that sure looks nothing like a hamburger, nor does it get eaten like one. That it didn’t use ground beef aside, it being covered in gravy is a dead giveaway.
Partner (UK) and I (US) talk about this a lot. I felt this way, but she pointed out to me that the US is astonishingly good at taking dishes from other countries and putting a spin on them, such as changes in texture or combinations. Once I started to pay attention I agreed.
We fry it, add fat, carbs, and/or add sugar.
Done.
Only two of those four are unhealthy.
But also, I know a fellow southerner when I see one.
Isn’t chicken Parmesan technically a New York dish?
TIL the chicken parmie is from NY. Although we Aussies have it served with hot chips, salad, and lager, instead of with pasta.
Do you throw some shrimp on the parmie?
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t help myself.
Haha nice one mate. That’s basically a poor man’s surf and turf, right?
My favorite will always be wartime foods. Shit on a shingle and spam on rice are fucking amazing.
What about post wartime foods? After WWII in Japan there was a hotel that had a ton of surplus ketchup, so one chef decided that putting it on pasta wouldn’t be a crime against humanity. Despite the fact that he was wrong, it still persists as a popular dish to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naporitan
That’s unholy and should be cleansed with fire and chanting.
I tried to get into ketchup spaghetti. I tried
Why would you do that to yourself? I was tricked into eating it because I saw red sauce on spaghetti and decided that of course it was pasta sauce. Why would anyone ever not put pasta sauce on pasta? I had to stop myself from spitting it out when the weird sweet sensation that was supposed to be savory hit me.
Had the same reaction when I tried to find tomato/vegetable juice and it was similarly disgustingly sweet. Who puts sugar in vegetable juice? Just drink a smoothie with fruit ffs.
Ketchup is the default pasta sauce. Felix ketchup is the one to swear by, can’t stand Heinz.
Ketchup is the key ingredients in swedish mest sauce.
I’m guessing that’s why no one talks about Sweden when talking pasta sauce
Your loss 🤷
Naporitan is my favourite Japanese food
Seriously. I love Korean army stew.
Beans on toast is prime 🤌 Toast with butter and marmite. Glug of Worcestershire. Grate some parmesan. Cracked pepper.
It especially hits on a cold snowy day
American food is whatever I eat in America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Mexico has breakfast tacos at home, they’re called Tacos de Canasta
What about pumkin pie?
Native American: I am a joke to you?
I hope this is just american whining about cultural appropriation again. Food evolved based on which culture cook it and that country’s flavour, and chance is, some of your favorite food that you think is originated from one place is actually a fusion of another food. As a chinese that isn’t originated from china(and not from the west), the chinese food i loved the most is actually just fusion made using local ingredients for local tastebud, not because some people decided to ruin someone else culture.
I recommend watching this video from Jennifer Lee: https://youtu.be/U6MhV5Rn63M
It talks about the history of Chinese food in America it’s great. Echoes some of the flavours you’ve experienced with some fun context.
