• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Shit like this used to happen informally, and quietly. Now it’s splashed all over the internet, only because someone wanted it to be.

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    3 days ago

    The Chinese probably gave them normal gifts, pins, and phones because why waste money on tech when top secret files are stored in the bathroom and POTUS tweets sensitive information?

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      3 days ago

      Yeah right. The CCP is probably the most decitful government in the world. As bad as the US government is (and it is) the CCP follows through with nothing. I thought it was pretty funny that they had American flags all over, it’s illegal every other day if the year.

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        3 days ago

        It’s tRump. He probably has the codes written in a post-it note that’s attached to his bedroom TV frame.

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          3 days ago

          We can at least hope that somebody, even in this administration, knew better than to give him the real codes.

          “Yes sir, here’s the nuclear codes: FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8.”

          • Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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            3 days ago

            We all know the nuclear codes, he says them on TV all the time. Person, Man, Woman, Camera, TV, Squirrel

            The dementia test is also the only code he can still remember. If they ever change the test he’ll fail.

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    2 days ago

    burn your clothes too…and don’t forget to cleanse your intestines…you never know :D oh oh and screening for the sexually transmitted spyware.

  • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Trump probably thinks he’s above the rules, so of course he’d want to keep the solid gold microphone Xi gave him with the plaque that says “The Greatest Speeches Ever.”

    He probably thinks it would look great on his desk.

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      My brother-in-law traveled a lot for work, from the early nineties, to the 20-teens.

      He visited, China, Russia, the U.S., India, all over Southeast Asia, Australia. Maybe South America, but not sure. Anyway, the point is he visited a lot of places, and the big ones fairly routinely. China is the only country, where his company had a whole list of requirements. He had to leave his personal phone, any personal electronics, and his work laptop at home. (They provided him a phone and laptop that would immediately be turned over once he returned and he could NOT log onto the company VPN with the laptop/phone they gave him and had to have his work email forwarded. )

      They gave him money to buy a new suit before he went over there and to replace his luggage and clothes when he came back, because it was all discarded.

      He said it was not so much government spying but industrial espionage. And he just worked in human resources.

      I was in the Navy and visited Hong Kong a couple of times and they never said boo to me outside of the usual, “Loose lips sink ships.” spiel we got at every port.

      They let him take his phone to Russia, but they did made him take a different work laptop, but that laptop could access the company VPN. He said there is was more about the government spying. I did not visit any Russian port while in the Navy.

      • kahnclusions@lemmy.ca
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        My past few employers have all had similar policies, it’s common in tech. I cannot take any company equipment over the Chinese border and we are strongly discouraged against bringing any personal equipment. The company has special burner laptops and phones for the few cases where we actually need a business trip to China.

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        The company i used to work for decided none of that mattered and set up a whole manufacturing plant in China. Why protect your secrets when you can just share the whole thing with China?

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          Yup. Move all the production to China to take advantage of their slave wages/conditions, and instead of passing any savings on to the consumer, they push all profits to the share holders.

          That has worked out so well for us, hasn’t it, especially now that we have such a hostile relationship with them.

          Companies are the worst.

          China’s gonna own us all.

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        Wow that sounds pretty Draconian. I would not travel without a personal phone, after all the trip is not 100% work time. I’d bring a personal burner, not my real phone, but I’d bring something. I don’t want my work to listen in on all personal comms while I’m there. I mean if they want me to leave a personal device in the hotel ok but not bringing it at all?

        And throwing my luggage and clothes away? Over my dead body.

        Of course with any work issued stuff they can do whatever they want. But not my personal things.

        I would really refuse a trip under such conditions, or refuse the conditions themselves.

        • sartalon@lemmy.world
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          He got a personal burner as well.

          He bought new luggage and clothes for the trip, knowing they would be paid for and discarded. He said it wasn’t that big a deal.

          It’s not like they surprised him on the way back, telling him to throw his stuff away.

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            Yeah clothes for me are very personal, I only wear certain fabrics (cotton T-shirts).

            But I mean I would never accept that to begin with. I would just not go on the trip.

            Our company has a significant number of employees inside China anyway so it would just be theater, if they want in they will get in.

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          I assume they would sometimes plant bugs and it was just easier to discard than to sanitize.

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      4 days ago

      had to surrender various items collected during the trip, including staff burner phones, credential badges, and lapel pins issued by China.

      They think the Chinese are doing that.

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    One of the most sensible things I’ve seen from the administration.

    Kinda surprised Trump was OK with it tbh…

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    Uh duh? Pretty normal procedure when visiting foreign governments.

    However the problem isn’t the support staff, it’s the moron leaders that are the problem. I bet 100 bucks that Trump kept at least a gift that contains a spy equipment.

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      Trump is as leaky as a sieve actually telling him anything would constitute a national security violation so he probably doesn’t know anything.

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    3 days ago

    For trump China does not need any secret spying devices. They know his motivation. They just need to flash their bankroll.

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    I know people are reacting like its expected anyway because of the amount of espionage that goes on, but this is honestly more of a cold war era tactic.

    Why would China risk souring relations right after a major diplomatic trip with some throw away gadgets that any competent military security would find immediately and proceed to document it?

    China can just get that high level information via a million other ways including Trump himself. They probably have a truthsocial scrapper that automatically tells them exactly what Trump is gonna do next by deciphering his insane posts lol.