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I read the article.
But also I’m out of the loop on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates
Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they’ve had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.
Don’t downvote me to hell cause it’s a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0
I haven’t heard of Zen and just checked out the wiki on it.
There are so many browsers! It’s hard to decide. I’ve tried quite a few over the years. Been running Brave as primary for 3-4 years.
I appreciate the Reddit link. Yikes. I’ve noticed the enshittification of Brave but didn’t know all the bad stuff they’ve done.
I do like that Brave works well on all my devices and sync is reliable. I don’t like running different browsers on diff platforms.
Time to do some testing and research…
They hate the politics of one of the developers.
It’s so hard to find good things as it is. Adding in politics of devs adds yet another layer to it!
I recently started using FUTO keyboard and then learned someone they associate with is a bad dude.
It’s like, come on guys. I’m trying to degoogle, avoid enshittification, and be privacy and security aware… and then there’s this curveball that I have to factor in too.
Firefox, or its fork Librewolf if you really value privacy.
I’m using waterfox as my dedicated porn browser and have found few faults. Maybe I’ll go that direction for my main browser.
I tried LibreWolf and had issues that I can’t remember now.
Brave runs an ad network.
Are brave and Plex related?
No, but brave “shields”, aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
I don’t mind paying a fee for a browser. It’s a lot of development time and I use it a lot. But not like this, and not brave.
I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
That’s a brave move.
Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.
Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.
I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.
I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.
Same standard means we make noise when we don’t like something.
People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.
It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.
Sometimes corporations lie.
It’s not being unhinged to say you don’t like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing “AI” is not welcomed.
Who cares it’s a corporation, it doesn’t have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.
Tell this to the Steam fanboys
Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.
Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.
This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.
Firefox doesn’t include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.
In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.
Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.
I don’t know what you’re on about. There is no keylogger and I don’t have any issues with the engine unless it’s some weird ass “chrome experiments” style website which I couldn’t care less about.
I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.
You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a… any of em, really.
They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!
All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer. They’ve made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.
Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That’s why I use it primarily.
Origin is free on Linux.
Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion
Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer
Such as? Crypto nonsense?
The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).
I dont see the value.
Why do you ask questions that I already answered in the comment you replied to?
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Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis
I don’t know what “certain features” are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don’t need to touch anything else.
Origin is free on Linux.
Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it’s still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It’s not “paying for convenience” it’s a tax on tech incompetency.
I don’t know what “certain features” are.
Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?
How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars?
It’s not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.
Reminds me of Anubis charging $50 to remove the :3 moe fox girl.
Not quite the same,
Anubis is open source and changing/removing it can actually be done for free without any laws stopping you,
They kindly ask you to pay them to do it as part of a kind off enterprise service, using the logic that if your website is professional enough to care about a logo, its professional enough to support the work it is relying on.
The bad news is, if you’re not on Team Tux, you’re going to have to pay $60 for Brave Origin. Granted, you only need to buy it once, and you’ll get unlimited activations across all of your devices.
It’s amazing people still believe this BS.
They’ll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that’s no longer the same thing you paid for ;)
Ya, that’s the really obvious take. That’s teh way you do biz these days.
Like, that’s what’s gonna happen to all those ‘lifetime’ Plex accounts. Sure, you still have access to ‘Plex-classic’. But you don’t get any of the new Plextastic services … unless you want to pay the $1,999 upgrade fee …
Totally off topic, but I drink at a bar called Spaghetti Western!
Hillsboro, OR.
Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.
This isn’t meant to be a hate comment or anything like that, but a closed mouth don’t get fed. I think it’s good that there’s discourse about this browser and every browser, pointing out the scummy things they do. If we didn’t do that there would never be any backlash and most people who know these things now wouldn’t know.
Brave Origin’s main feature isn’t what it adds but what it removes: it scraps email aliases, Leo AI, the VPN tool, the Brave Wallet implementation, and Speedreader, just to name a few features. You can either download a browser with all of those disabled, or you can upgrade your Brave browser with a panel that lets you tweak what ones you want to keep.
Brave lets people use Origin for free if they’re on Linux
lol
Brave thinks its users are suckers
Its founder and CEO thinks that gay people shouldn’t have rights, too.
Pay for adblock by the guy who made us need NoScript.
To be fair…most of the general population are indeed suckers.
To be fair, brave users are suckers
I don’t use Brave, but one correction. From the article: "Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux). "
Brave thinks its Windows and OSX users are suckers, not its Linux users apparently.
Reminds me of a joke:
My dad always warned us about Septic Tank Steve, and that we should never pay him to do anything, and we should have listened. One day Steve came by and said if we gave him a nickel, he’d swim around in the septic tank. We thought that was hilarious, so we gave him a nickel, and he swam around the tank a while. Then he came and sat next to us on the porch and said “If you want me to leave, gimme $100.”
