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It’s just plain weird to me that this isn’t seen as the lowest bar in the world, but I’m definitely still taking the W.
It’s not that it’s such a great act in itself, it’s no where near enough.
But.
This is a significant win as a large, profitable and respected company is seen to be doing something so insignificant and get such good marketing results. This is the best kind of encouragement we can give to the souless retail machine 😉 And yes… “We will sing your praises if you just follow basic laws” is a pretty low bar, but here we are 😄Sort of. These policies are really a mixed bag. A lot of fire departments in the 90’s were doing affirmative action things and wound up having to stop because it was getting people hurt and things were burning.
Turns out if there’s a job that’s actually important, you should probably hire the best people for the job. Not the best “of certain demographic” that applied.
That’s been disproven multiple times. The issue was the fire departments were not training the Probies with any real HOT because they didn’t want them.
https://www.iafc.org/docs/default-source/1vcos/iafc_dei_study_report_final.pdf
was getting people hurt and things were burning.
What are you even trying to say?
They went from hiring and promoting based on testing, to hiring and promoting based on ethnicity and gender. So if ten people applied and tested for a captains position and the four highest scoring applicants were white guys, they’d promote number 5.
https://www.iafc.org/docs/default-source/1vcos/iafc_dei_study_report_final.pdf
Disproven by a study done by the IAFC
what kind of cartoon world are we living in that i’m actually on the side of a corporation for once
They’ll find a way to fuck it up, I’m sure
Costco is the only one
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What is DEI?
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Programs, most often hiring, promoting those values
Questions against it is usually bigoted. It seemed to be the popular MAGA dogwhistle this election.
It’s not really a dogwhistle, DEI is diversity, equity and inclusion - they’re outright saying they don’t want diversity equity and inclusion.
It’s why they only use the initials.
Dog whistling normally means saying one thing while meaning another, this is not that.
Dogwhistling is less about lying and more about coded language.
My point here is there’s no coded language - DEI is expressly about promoting minority groups. They are explicitly attacking that.
Oh, for sure. I agree with you that this is not dogwhistling; I was just quibbling a little over your description of what dogwhistling is. MAGAs use a wide variety of dishonest rhetorical tactics: there’s lying for the purpose of outright deception, dogwhistling to signal intent while maintaining deniability, and then whatever this tactic is called – euphemizing, maybe? – to state their idea plainly but spin it as less bad than it actually is.
No. It means implying something from something more tame. For example, in this case, it’s an objection to any support for gay, trans etc. Rather than saying that outright, they’d say DEI is over the top. Which is attending to sound subtle and against a policy or practice when it’s against minorities. Its a dog whistle. Like anti-immigration is usually used in as a racist dog whistle.
It needs to have a coded element to it, some people hear what’s really being said, some do not, like an actual dog whistle. There is no coded element here, it’s explicitly attacking gay, trans, women, basically any minority group because that’s expressly what DEI is about.
American History X has a scene about it, although racists were programmed with different words 30 years ago.
I think it’s a sporting goods store
Trying to Save Yourself from Discrimination Lawsuits is WOKE and BAD BUSINESS! REAL American Companies OPEN themselves UP to Discrimination Lawsuits WILLINGLY!
Now lemmy is flooding me with corporate propaganda? Good on the company for doing the right thing, but when I see this same headline in multiple communities on here, it reminds me of reddit.
Is it propaganda, though? How about we celebrate the few nice things going for us and just enjoy it for a second. We should be praising this regardless of our ideals because the world is very far from ideal.
Yeah, it probably is propaganda. Costco has been doing some cartoonishly shitty union busting recently for which they received a ton of backlash. Now, suddenly, we’re all supposed to be on their side because they said “DEI is good”? IDK, it might just be me, but that rings a bit hollow from a company that has a long (and very recent) history of doing shit like “changing the locks on union bulletin boards so the reps can’t put up any notices”.
Who are these shareholders?? Name and shame
The shareholder is a group called “National Center for Public Policy Research”, a far right organization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costco#Ownership
Oops. All Private Equity.
I’m starting to think these private equity firms are bad eggs! /s
It’s just bad apples. Landfills and landfills of bad apples. Not even compostable, that’s how bad they are.
Not compostable, but they could be ground up to make some fertilizer.
The top three are index funds basically which is not really private equity in the colloquial sense. A lot of people’s retirements and savings are held by vanguard, blackrock and state street.
Is there any legal way a company can prevent the sale of their stock to a private equity?
Go private and don’t have stock traded on the secondary market?
You can’t restrict the sale of stock, typically, but there are some provisions that can be adopted to make things more resilient. Check out “Poison Pills” on Wikipedia
These are not the same firms behind the proposal though. I know some of the funds listed like Blackrock and State Street have supported DEI at least in the past and have been targeted by the far right for that reason.
This for all shareholders, all the time. Their laws might care about the corporate veil but we don’t.
It’s DEI just Equal Opportunity with a fresh coat of paint so racists/misogynists don’t sound like boomers from the 90s when they complain about it?
DEI is all about making money by using resources that being racist and dumb leaves on the table. The moment it becomes too expensive DEI won’t fix it.
Id rather have DEI than not have it, but DEI is for company profit, any other benefits are secondary.
I mean it sounds like DEI is about using the best talent available. Instead of narrowing your options. So DEI will become too expensive when the playing field is even.
Yes, that is my problem with it. DEI is about finding the best talent at the cheapest price point. This means if a man and a woman can do the same job. They will have them both do the same job but will not pay the women as much as the man.
This is better than keeping the woman as a secretary instead of an engineer, but it isn’t helping anyone, it’s just underpaying women and other minorities.
DEI has a branding problem. Should have called it IED.
C-IED here. What’s the emergency?
IED?
Improvised Explosive Device
It’s a capitalist system. Everything a company does is about its bottom line. Especially a publicly-traded company, which has no legal choice in the matter.
DEI is all about making money by using resources that being racist and dumb leaves on the table
No it isnt… it’s just a quota. If you have sources showing the financial gains aquired through DEI implementation, please share
Well… do you have 3 more sources? Preferrably of the “angry, ranty, conservative dipshit” variety?
It really is amazing to see people not understand the concept that when you get people from a diversity of cultures and backgrounds in your country, it brings in new and good ideas that hadn’t been considered before due to the very lack of that diversity.
I work in a DEI company, there is no quota. They just want to higher cheap immigrant labor where they can get away with it and make their minority and women workers more productive by making them feel like they are cared for.
Why would a company voluntarily do something that would make it unpopular and lose money?
It’s not just a quota, and the post above yours is also wrong, but honestly I don’t have the energy to argue.
I’m sure the one above is actually right in some companies and wrong and others.
People shouldn’t make blanket statements about all companies.
Good companies pay by position and don’t underpay women in minorities.
That said the person who made the statement probably works in a company where that is the case.
The problem with DEI is that most discriminatory practices are not on purpose. People don’t underpay women because they are women per se. But because of invisible biases (e.g. holding women to higher expectations). And DEI tries to identify those issues and course correct. For example, one thing my company changed was how we write job offers to be more attractive to all, not just the typical male tech nerd.
But woke Marxism tho!!!
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Awesome, now I have to block posts about Costco.
Welcome to Costco. I love you
We don’t have time for a Starbucks
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DEI policies are the exact opposite of “rooted in respect”
How so?
DEI isn’t inclusive though, it’s inherently exclusive. It should be means tested so it benefits those who really need it.
DEI is about improving diversity and preventing racial bias in the hiring process (which very much exists because people are people). It’s not about helping poor people.
Regardless of its positive benefits, don’t kid yourself. Companies implement DEI because it keeps their workspace more fluid and open to staff turnovers, specially from international hires. Not only will more hires go into a company they see won’t have racial barriers for progression, but companies are less likely to have close-knit groups of locals unionizing to deal with when they make sure they aren’t the sort of groups that typically interconnect socially. The change in the job dynamic also feeds into the growth of the alt-right and the clashing of the social bubbles of those comprised by locals versus those comprised by immigrants. Take the Netherlands, a DEI success story with a population that is veering far to the right.
DEI is good, but CEOs couldn’t care less. It’s good to keep this in mind when answering questions like “Are the jobs AI is automating by the dozen adding diversity, or are they going to enable companies to become more regressive to the whims and fancies of their CEOs?”
Yes. However your response still highlights the inclusivity of the program which is in direct opposition of
DEI isn’t inclusive though, it’s inherently exclusive
companies are less likely to have close-knit groups of locals unionizing to deal with when they make sure they aren’t the sort of groups that typically interconnect socially. The change in the job dynamic also feeds into the growth of the alt-right and the clashing of the social bubbles of those comprised by locals versus those comprised by immigrants.
Yeah, it’s kind of the elephant in the room. After working in a team with overwhelming number of immigrants, I kind of see why many locals would feel alienated. Never mind bemoaning about “diluting culture” (what culture doesn’t evolve?), but job dynamics as you say changes for the worse. Many immigrants I know don’t really question the low pay in spite of the rising inflation. Many want to even work seven days straight if they could. It’s because many immigrants typically come from hierarchical, conservative and collectivist culture, where social validation and approval from seniors is more valued. This causes employers and government not to feel pressure to increase wages. This causes to weaken the power of unions.
Also, not all countries have affirmative action/DEI policies. Where I live, it’s not mandatory but it’s good practice for most companies to do so to avoid litigation and bad PR. However, the company I worked don’t actively pursue it and my former line manager, a Somali, overwhelmingly hire other Somalis. Another team has a Romanian team leader but also seem to favour fellow Romanian for job positions. I don’t believe this is done intentionally, but the thing is not all countries have the same education and culture, and my Somali and Romanian managers probably would not have been taught about unconscious biases.
That being said, it’s more important that there is mutual understanding and similar mindset than where the person is from. An Egyptian born and raised in US would likely agree with local citizens than with fresh off the boat immigrants.
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It’s about identifying and undoing existing discrimination. If you find no existing discrimination, then you don’t have to do anything.
You seem very emotional on the topic. Have you convinced yourself that you lost a job because of DEI? I hate to break it to you, you lost that job because of you. No one is hiring quotas.
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I’ve been a hiring manager for over a decade. We have a robust DEI program. Not once has there been a quota.
And in fact, the hiring process is really bad at finding the “best” candidate, whatever that is. How can a few hours in an interview tell you about someone’s work ethic or abilities?
Your understanding of the hiring process is horribly naive. There is no best person for the job. It’s not a puzzle and pieces. You meet lots of people and do your best to find someone who can do the work. And you do so, knowing that people and process DO have built in biases because everything does. There’s no magic perfect fair process.
You WANT to believe it’s merit based and there’s quotas. But reality isn’t like that.
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Accurate username.
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I’ve been Rizz for long time.
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