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One is an act of protest and the other is an act of hate.
And the underlying message of one is that we should love different people, while the message of the other is that we should hate and fear different people.
Signed: disgusted white American guy.
People who think it’s just “bad” to criticize their government don’t know the difference between their government and their mommy.
Yeah, it’s a similar sort of immaturity where good boys and girls don’t question what they’re told. (Emphasis these days on “boys and girls only” am I right?)
I think reasonable adults understand that everybody and everything are flawed. It’s how you react to them that matters. People deserve compassion and understanding from the get-go, and they have the right to just exist. Governments and companies start in no such place, and they have a much lower threshold before they should be told to fix their shit.
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its bad faith. i dont think its even useful to argue this.
they know. they literally want picture on the left to be unacceptable while the one on the right is normalized.
It’s nice to have my initial reaction immediately validated upon opening the thread, for better or for worse, I gotta say.
i think its for worse but we can take solace in the fact we are both fucked in solidarity
Of course. The people with the problem seeing the left picture are the people on the right.
Genuine thought experiment: if the kneeling was done by an extremely autistic person, would more or less people have a problem with it?
No, it’s racism.
A system’s purpose is what it does
It’s just a meaningless gesture why are you upset.
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Edit: let me clarify that - people who are saying Musk’s gesture doesn’t mean anything, are the same people getting offended when they see pinching fingers…
What do the pinching fingers mean, or are said to mean?
The perma stun proceeds as planned.
You can have a problem with both. Both gestures caused a negative action.
What negative action did Kaep cause, again?
Do you usually ask stupid questions?
No. You?
I guess I’m new at this. Why is the question stupid?
It’s a similar comparison to Luigi Mangione
One person was responsible for killing or leading to the deaths of thousands and possibly millions of people to an early death - no one bats an eye
One person was responsible for directly killing one other person - the whole country loses their minds
Yeah, because it breaks the social order. The number of people killed by the health insurance industry must be astronomical. But it’s No Big Deal, because it’s Business As Usual.
Somebody killing a CEO, though. That is not business as usual.
If that’s the social order… Then fuck the social order.
Who did Elon kill?
the vibes whenever he enters a room
Is that genocide?
I think you can make a case for it
I haven’t quite figured out how to put it into words but in my mind it seems like capitalism and Nazi Germany or the USSR share a core mechanism. A single death is a tragedy, but many deaths are a statistic. When a singular person does something bad they need to be punished. If a system does something bad, even if a singular person or group of people were directly responsible for setting up the system they do not receive the consequences.
It’s also the reason automated systems being used for making decisions that affect real human lives bother me so much right now. In a vacuum I don’t actually have a problem with them, but unless laws and regulations with teeth are put in place to hold those that implement them responsible for their mistakes then under our current system by definition they will only ever be used to maximize profits and minimize culpability.
Maximizing profits and missing culpability is capitalism, working as intended.
With that said, the system is only working on behalf of those with the money. The 0.1%
I say again: the system is working as intended.
So much of this is filtered through the national corporate media. Quite a few people bat an eye at the vulgar abuse of power by insurance adjusters. But they aren’t afforded a platform on your Cable News outlet of choice.
Vanishingly few people were sympathetic towards an unknown CEO of a notoriously skinflint insurance company. But he was lionized and eulogized on every national news station.
In the same vein, most people slept through Kapernick taking a knee. It wasn’t properly news until weeks after he first did it, in large part because it took that long for right-wing anchors to notice. By contrast, the Elon Fascist Dab was headline news within seconds of him performing it and only got talked down to “Autistic Man’s Arm Just Did That And It’s Ablest Of You To Notice” after days of equivocating in papers and news channels of record.
The Consent, folks. Its being Manufactured.
Omfg I’m gonna stab someone. How the hell are they trying to use autism as an explanation?
This is not how any of this works. You don’t start stimming in a perfect right wing gesture. He never did something like this before in public. He also doesn’t look startled or anything.
I’m mad now. How did this chipmunk become a government advisor? I want him to trip on Lego so bad.
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whole countryruling class loses their mindsOh yeah, Luigi definitely came up as a topic of discussion over the holidays when I was visiting the conservative side of my family. I considered it a win that they at least acknowledged that the legal system and media works differently for the rich and powerful. I mean, common ground is common ground.
That unnecessary comma makes this read like a command
Some people have a problem with the left photo, some with the right photo. And some are furious because of THAT FUCKING COMMA!!!
why use an Oxford comma when you can just
can just end the fucking sentence.
I actually like it, but, I suppose, I like to use commas.
Commas are great for lists, and for combining two sentences into one using a conjunction like and, or, but, etc.; like I just did.
If you made each side of the comma a sentence then arguably neither would make a complete sentence.
In your opinion, were there too many commas in my original comment? (Serious question)
Edit: just because I’m curious. I like my writing to be at least somewhat proper.
but, you know, english isn’t everybods native language, so i don’t give a fuck, if someone puts a comma somewhere, where they shouldn’t.
I don’t mind all of the commas except the last 3. I think the comment should have ended after “fuck”.
Now that you mention it, this is fairly accurate in my social / familial sphere. For a lot of folks it’s more about race than politics, though.
I mean… wasn’t race kind of the Nazis’ whole thing?
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My problem with the left photo is he could be kneeling on a Nazi.
Well yeah obviously. One picture is people that care about their country.
Ugh yeah, that’s how hypocrisy works.
