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    Some advice for demonstrations (including propaganda of the deed):

    • Wear a ski mask. Wear rubber gloves.
    • Wear anonymous clothing.
    • Don’t trust phones. Don’t use them to plan, and leave them turned on at home.
    • Use a cell structure to organize, and share info on a need-to-know basis only.
    • Assume there are not only cameras but microphones.
    • Don’t drive anywhere near the location of the demo. Ride-haining services are even worse. Don’t even cycle in unless you can go off-road.
    • Distinguish individuals’ property from corporate property.
    • The goal is to live to fight another day. A fair fight is one in which you don’t get hurt.
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      Not having the phone with you is critical. But I assume planning is done on a laptop or desktop that is obviously not taken with?

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        Yep, anonymous browsers, burner accounts, and a VPN if you can. Privacy.sexy is your friend too.

        You just want to set yourself up as best you can for the defense of “you can’t prove that was me.”

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          Tor browser/ I use a VPN most of the time. But for REALLY sensitive shit I turn Tor on. A lot of stuff can be purged off your computer. I use Windows 11 (haven’t migrated to Linux yet! Ugh!) but I have some failsafes to reduce my location data and the amount I am exposed. It isn’t perfect (nothing is) but it is better than nothing.

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    Oh no! they should be dismantled instead of burned. Some of those electric motors could be put into better use.

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    Thanks for hurting the environment I guess. Could have just boycotted tesla products and corporate tesla

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    Been thinking about this a lot. They can say it’s terrorism. History is written by the winners.

    But…

    Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal. If you rebel, you die a terrorist or live a hero. Not much middle ground.

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    Problem with setting Teslas on fire is we can’t know if it’s an act of protest or if they just did that on their own.

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      The incident in Kansas City genuinely does sound like one just caught itself on fire.

      In Kansas City, Police Captain Jacob Becchina said in a statement that an officer first observed smoke coming from a Cybertruck parked in a Tesla parking lot. “The officer used his fire extinguisher, however, KCFD was still needed as he could not put the fire out,” Becchina said. “The fire spread to a second Cybertruck parked next to the original burning one. The circumstances are under investigation, but preliminarily, the fire is being investigated for the potential of being an Arson.”

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    “Trump administration looking to categorize Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism” Because Republicans are cowards without principles who can never even think of opposing him.

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    Stick to the showrooms and dealers. The victims in Las Vegas was just owners who brought their cars in to be fixed.

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      They can use the insurance money to get a non tesla. Clearly these confused autistic gestures are not working since the de facto tyrannyical government is not reacting to it at all and not labelling it “terrorism”.

      spoiler

      After seeing american tesla owners drive rentals in iceland, my toughts and prayers are with each of the expensive luxury vehicle owners and their families going through this tough time.

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    In posts on X following the incident, Tesla CEO Elon Musk called the incidents “terrorism” and said the company “just makes electric cars and has done nothing to deserve these evil attacks.”

    OK buddy.

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      The cars suck, but he’s right that the company hasn’t done anything to deserve this. He’s the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they’ll feel about any business he owns.

      Terrorism, though? Hardly. It’s protest. He’s the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.

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      It’s not terrorism. They were just peacefully touring the dealerships. Just like January 6. Peacefully touring.

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      “Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.

      It’s vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.

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        “Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.

        Leave the puppy killing to the expert, Kristi Noem.

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      It’s obviously the MAGA crowd. They’ve spent years complaining about electric vehicles. They’ve just escalated that to burning them out. The police need to go have a nice chat with the rolling coal types.

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      Maybe, maybe this is actually stochastic terrorism being carried out by MAGA themselves.

      Think about it, their plan is to declare martial law - right? Conservatives already hate EVs, they think that Trump is a ‘good’ billionaire while billionaires like Gates are ‘bad’ billionaires - I don’t think it would take much to make Musk out to be a ‘bad’ billionaire.

      Idk if this is as clear as ‘good guys vs bad guys’ - these are freedom fighters, but it’s never been clearer that a lot of people are divided on what ‘free’ actually means. You shouldn’t assume that the people doing this are actually on your side.