The behind the bastards about Jobs was fucking wild. The guy made children cry (not his own) for eating incorrectly and he would hold meetings in the bathroom so he could soak his feet in the toilets. It is a great series of episodes.
If I recall it was a small girl who ordered a hamburger which conflicted with what he thought a proper diet should be. He absolutely let her have it in public and she cried.
Musk started out as just a dick then turned full fascist. I bet Jobs wouldn’t be too far behind if he was alive.
The guy died from a treatable cancer because he listened to a health guru instead of doctors. I bet he would be an antivax idiot gulping down horse dewormer to prevent COVID-19 if was alive today.
Disney technically isn’t a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon “the ducktators” they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don’t recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you’re doing great harm to society.
if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It’s not about watering anything down, it’s about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Is anything you own made in China? Is any of the fuel you’ve used in the past couple of years supplied by SA or Russia? If so, aren’t you actively promoting multiple genocides?
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It’s hard to say Disney wasn’t a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If “just following orders” makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
Just gonna point out that that’s a Crusader cross, I think it’s the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I’m only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I’m just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
Even that tongue in cheek comment is unfortunately true as another person put it: he stole the next in line spot for a transplant when he was already way too far gone for it to do anything only to die months later.
Was Disney a Nazi? I know he wasn’t a good person, but I hadn’t heard that. Is there any further reading you could link me? A cursory search didn’t find much other than the fact that he seems totally cool working with anti-semites, which isn’t really the same thing. If he was, I’d like to know, and if not, we should be more precise with our language so when we call out people like Elon it means something.
I swear this exact phrase is an FBI plot to get people to doubt everything they see and hear.
“That school shooter was a nazi” “Well, we ought to be careful when saying things like that.”
“Elon Musk is a nazi.” “And what has he done exactly? You know, it’s important to be precise. The story of the boy who cried wolf is that …”
“Hitler was a nazi.” “Well, he was in charge of the nazis. Specificity is really important when handling delicate matters like these, you know.”
Not to pick on you specifically, but I am so fucking tired of hearing it.
I totally get that, but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.” I don’t think we should be using the word Nazi to mean “racist person,” as Nazi is pretty specific. I certainly hope I don’t come across as making any of the above arguments. Ford was a Nazi. Elon is a Nazi. I haven’t seen evidence suggesting Disney is the same, and I think it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”
I (a Jewish person) draw a distinction between antisemitism and Nazism. Nazis aren’t just racist, they’re fascist, with a specific set of beliefs. All I can verify is that Disney associated with racists in Hollywood willingly. I find it hard to believe that if Disney was a Nazi sympathizer, he would’ve produced so many anti-Nazi propaganda films. To give a good analogy, someone might be racist towards Palestinians and Arab people without being Zionist. That’s a more specific belief that includes racism.
Is the first one Disney? If so, 2 of 3 are confirmed Nazis, so yeah, huge red flag. Steve Jobs was just a dick, right?
The behind the bastards about Jobs was fucking wild. The guy made children cry (not his own) for eating incorrectly and he would hold meetings in the bathroom so he could soak his feet in the toilets. It is a great series of episodes.
I’ll look for that one, he’s great. Sometimes, it’s just too hard to listen to, but Jobs would probably be okay.
The Jobs series is fairly tame as far as BtB goes. Definitely worth a listen.
The same dude who refused cancer treatment because he was convinced his “healthy” lifestyle and alt med bullshit would cure the cancer itself
He literally thought eating tons of fruit would cure cancer. He also refused to shower and stank like shit.
Pardon?
Listen to the episode. It is fucking wild. He apparently didn’t bathe either
Because he said he didn’t need to. Some wild shit about mucus and body odor and how his diet removed the need for it.
How do you eat incorrectly, stick it up your nose?
If I recall it was a small girl who ordered a hamburger which conflicted with what he thought a proper diet should be. He absolutely let her have it in public and she cried.
Musk started out as just a dick then turned full fascist. I bet Jobs wouldn’t be too far behind if he was alive.
The guy died from a treatable cancer because he listened to a health guru instead of doctors. I bet he would be an antivax idiot gulping down horse dewormer to prevent COVID-19 if was alive today.
Behind the Bastards had a great series on him, as always.
I liked that when he died, he died knowing he could have avoided it if he wasn’t a miserable, narcissistic idiot :)
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Disney technically isn’t a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon “the ducktators” they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don’t recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
In my book, Nazi adjacent = Nazi. He wasn’t trying to get along with Nazis to save orphans or something.
There should be zero tolerance for Nazis.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you’re doing great harm to society.
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It’s not about watering anything down, it’s about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Oskar Schindler
Lol, not hindering equals assisting, okay
Why are you assisting in the Israeli genocide?
Is anything you own made in China? Is any of the fuel you’ve used in the past couple of years supplied by SA or Russia? If so, aren’t you actively promoting multiple genocides?
I said absolutely no such thing. I said assisting a Nazi is choosing not to hinder them.
And you know absolutely nothing about my habits, what I do, or what I buy so fuck off with that bad faith nonsense and stop defending Nazis.
Please stop murdering Palestinians.
Also, Nazi punks can fuck off.
Put down the crack pipe, kid.
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It’s hard to say Disney wasn’t a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If “just following orders” makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
“what do you want tattooed”
“I want the american history x tattoo but make it slightly less on the nose”
Hes also got an american flag, handgun, and Dues Vult tattoo on his arm.
Just gonna point out that that’s a Crusader cross, I think it’s the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I’m only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I’m just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
The same anti-defamation league that said musk’s nazi salute was just a awkward gesture?
It was the God-Emperor himself. Casual reminder that Imperial Japan was a divine monarchy, and fascism and monarchism are not mutually exclusive.
The glasses are the giveaway. Plus him being the head of state…
We must be diligent with our language, even if the enemy is willing to twist it. Thanks.
At least jobs had the presence of mind to let himself die of a curable condition because he thought he knew better.
Even that tongue in cheek comment is unfortunately true as another person put it: he stole the next in line spot for a transplant when he was already way too far gone for it to do anything only to die months later.
Yea, just an unbelievable asshole.
Was Disney a Nazi? I know he wasn’t a good person, but I hadn’t heard that. Is there any further reading you could link me? A cursory search didn’t find much other than the fact that he seems totally cool working with anti-semites, which isn’t really the same thing. If he was, I’d like to know, and if not, we should be more precise with our language so when we call out people like Elon it means something.
I swear this exact phrase is an FBI plot to get people to doubt everything they see and hear.
“That school shooter was a nazi” “Well, we ought to be careful when saying things like that.”
“Elon Musk is a nazi.” “And what has he done exactly? You know, it’s important to be precise. The story of the boy who cried wolf is that …”
“Hitler was a nazi.” “Well, he was in charge of the nazis. Specificity is really important when handling delicate matters like these, you know.”
Not to pick on you specifically, but I am so fucking tired of hearing it.
I totally get that, but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.” I don’t think we should be using the word Nazi to mean “racist person,” as Nazi is pretty specific. I certainly hope I don’t come across as making any of the above arguments. Ford was a Nazi. Elon is a Nazi. I haven’t seen evidence suggesting Disney is the same, and I think it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”
To be clear, I have no idea what Walt is or isn’t. I’m not making a claim there, haha.
I agree… especially if we’re talking about historical figures who might be pretty far removed from the modern political climate.
But to be fair, there is a pretty direct connection between bigotry and nazis, modern or otherwise.
Umm… Is there?
If you’re sitting at a table with 9 Nazis, then that’s a table of 10 Nazis.
I (a Jewish person) draw a distinction between antisemitism and Nazism. Nazis aren’t just racist, they’re fascist, with a specific set of beliefs. All I can verify is that Disney associated with racists in Hollywood willingly. I find it hard to believe that if Disney was a Nazi sympathizer, he would’ve produced so many anti-Nazi propaganda films. To give a good analogy, someone might be racist towards Palestinians and Arab people without being Zionist. That’s a more specific belief that includes racism.
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