This is a weird way for me to find out about another shooting
It wasn’t as bad as some (2 dead, 6 injured).
He originally started with a shotgun but it jammed without firing a shot. He grabbed a pistol from his vehicle and fired into the bystanders.
Police were on scene quickly (FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars) and shot and wounded the shooter.
Oh, what a fucked up world we live in that we see a school shooting as “not so bad, all things considered”…
It’s only “not so bad” in America.
‘No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
There is a really fucked up silver lining to this which is every nation not the USA can point to the USA whenever someone wants to loosen gun regulations. In a twisted way the US might be helping other nations by being such a “good” (bad) example.
Rest of the world also has a right-wing problem. It’s seeping into our culture and everyday life because they have found out how to sell fascism to the everyday, uneducated moron. Sadly, that’s half the world.
Absolutely! I’m not in Germany but I hope they can use the US as an example of what not to do and absolutely destroy the AfD before it reaches critical mass.
Politicians around the word: we need to ban guns and assault rifles.
US policy makers: we need to tell the good guys they need to
buycarry a gun.Plenty of countries have lots of guns. Virtually none of them have any significant number of mass terror shootings, even the ones with otherwise high rates of gun violence.
America is built different.
The rethoric of the people in power seems different, but I don"t know enough of other countries with lots of guns.
Local law enforcement was having a training session very close by. That and the fact the shooter was the son of a Sherrif deputy are the reasons you could hear them blowing themselves over their fast response the whole time. Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.
Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.
There is a reason DeSantis & the fascists in the Florida legislature are about to get rid of the red flag laws.
If that happened in my country it would be huge news and all anyone in the country would talk about for weeks.
It would appear that we have standardized school shootings here in the States.
This one wasn’t that bad. Remember that other one?
You going to catch The Game later?
FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars
Wait what the fuck?
I’ve seen a full on homeless man, with dreadlocks and scruffy blanket (urban Ghillie suit) sitting outside of a Waffle House. The local clubs were letting out and there were gunshots in the parking lot.
Dude stood up and radioed in shots fired and pulled an AR from the bag he was sitting on.
Tons of unmarked cars around campus with lights mounted in the grill and illegally tinted windows.
It’s a heavy security presence that you wouldn’t notice unless you were around it a lot.
We really are a police state.
Thoughts and prayers
Definitely not my first time finding out this way, which is even weirder
Weird how that keeps happening.
I want to stress that it has absolutely nothing, I repeat, nothing at all to do with gun “culture” and easy access to guns.
Nothing at all. Promise!
/s
Unfortunately I think it runs deeper than guns being around. As people point out, nearly every house in Switzerland has a gun, but they have little gun violence.
Though you’re right that America’s loose gun culture makes the underlying problem ten times worse.
Yes culture is a big part I think too, and the availability, can you just go up to a stand at a gun expo and buy a gun in Switzerland? I don’t think so right?
No. That gun is government issued, and you are responsible for its secure storage. It it not for playing around, and you don’t get any ammo with it. The ammo will be distributed in case the country needs to be defended.
That makes the whole idea that “there are lots of guns in Switzerland, but no shootings” worthless if you can’t buy bullets.
nearly every house in Switzerland has a gun, but they have little gun violence.
Totally different situation because most of these guns are from reservists in the army which are stored without ammo. So they are literally unusable unless you happen to get ammo for it.
And they are held responsible for the weapon. And they leave it in a secure storage until they need it for training or to defend the country.
Right, that’s one reason why it’s different.
“Nothing we can do about it, says the only nation in the world where this happens regularly”
The Onion should copy the White House and just start scribbling through the mass shooting article headline they repost each time with red crayon.
And his mom is a police officer.
And he used one of her unsecured guns.
In a system where we want to discourage this we need to hold the parents accountable.
I think a life sentence for each life her son took is fair, for her and her son.
irresponsible gun owning parents, who literally put firearms into the hands of their homicidal children, need to be held accountable for these tragedies.
dozens of mass shootings in recent years, especially school shootings, were absolutely preventable. if only these fucking lazy stupid ass adults would stop fetishizing guns for 2 seconds, long enough to store their weapons securely like a sane responsible person. or they could, idk, maybe steer their mentally disturbed crotch goblin towards a more pro-social, harmless activity?
firearm ownership is a responsibility too few take seriously.
Maybe just less guns?
The NRA has entered the chat.
Why not life sentences for grand parents too? Uncles and aunts? Doctors, teachers…
If a gun owner’s gun is used in a murder, the owner should be charged with second-degree murder, full stop. When you own a gun, it is your responsibility to keep and secure it properly. I don’t care if it’s stolen or whatever, that gun is ultimately the responsibility of the owner. That’s the social contract when acquiring a device whose sole purpose is to kill.
I’m sorry context is such an issue for you
It must be hard
the word is ‘terrorist’
Um, actually, the tweet clearly says “Florida State University” not “Tesla Cybertruck” so no this wasn’t actually an act of terrorism, it was just a peaceful protest instead
you mean ‘troubled young man’ ? /sarc
“He’s just a bad apple”
“Lone wolf”
“Let’s talk about mental health”
“Okay, what can we do for mental health?”
“Nothing or genocide/restablish the patriarchy, fuck you lib”
“We need Jesus in schools!”
No joke, I’ve heard people say that exact thing in response. That taking God out of schools is what started all this, so if there was more prayer in school, we wouldn’t have shootings.
Yeah, because nobody does mass shootings in religious places.
“He should have gotten a job with health insurance so he can afford therapy!”
Bad apple from the 250-year-old Southern Orchard.
I was recently thinking it’s says a lot about a culture, where kids shoot up schools regularly, but immigrants getting a terrible treatment never seem to shoot up an ICE office or other government building.
I think both are part of the same culture to be honest, they are just in very different positions both pushed to an extreme situation (the kids shooting up schools and the government officials threating immigrants like crap). Personally I believe you get what you give and this is the result of a society that is getting what it has been giving (or not giving, really). Really sad situation where a lot of people get way less than they deserve (the parents of the killed kids, the children of the deported families etc)
People in US culture want to think this is a product of white christian men getting hurt and isolated to the point that the poor innocent souls wander into committing a school shooting.
The negative mental health is only part of the equation and isn’t even critical to it, what IS critical is teaching christian white men that they have the inherent right given who they are to commit violence and nobody else does.
This is why you see that “incongruity”.
Curious that this is still happening even though Musk has killed the woke mind virus and these guys have won forever.
Can’t wait to hear them say “well he donated $5 to the democratic party 10 eyars ago”
They’re asking if he was on anti-depressants. Everyone else is a murderer, terrorist, what have you. When it’s one of theirs? Just a misguided kid on SSRIs.
Contrast with keying a car and being labeled a terrorist. By scratching a cybertruck, you become an enemy of the state—something a republican school shooter could never dream of.
They just aren’t bad enough
Or they find a post where he said something nice about Bernie Sanders.
He once made a tweet that vaguely criticised a Conservative figure. wOkE aGeNdA KiLLs AgAIn
And the child of a cop.
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“En masse”.
Which is French for in mass.
Unfortunately, you’ve misunderstood the nuanced meaning that the phrase “en masse” has acquired in the English language:
Cambridge Dictionary: En Masse
However, you can take comfort in knowing that you are not alone in this misunderstanding:
No I understand what en masse means. I just don’t subscribe to your inflexible interpretation.
Language is a tool for communication. It’s for the masses, not something to be gate kept or preserved by the priests of lingual orthodoxy. If the words you use convey the intended meaning to the listener, then the wording is adequate.
If everyone’s use of language was as rigid as the people insisting we can only use the phrases as they existed when they were imported to an English court by a Norman conqueror a thousand years ago, then we’d all still be communicating by banging rocks together and grunting. The English language evolves every day. It’s alive.
Ok but the argument is that it might not “convey the intended meaning to the listener” because ‘in mass’ can mean multiple things in English, whereas in French ‘en masse’ specifically means ‘as a group’. It’s not a linguistic purity thing it’s literally just to prevent misinterpretation.
edit: You can’t say “English is an evolving language” and then ignore the evolution in the phrase being carried over in the first place. If there was no reason for it then we’d still just be using the English term or, “banging rocks together and grunting” as you put it.
Nobody here misinterpreted it except the purists who did it intentionally to troll, show off and talk down to people.
Big “I just like saying Valentimes” energy
Ok.
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The truth was busy putting it’s shoes on.
Not gonna lie I thought your username was Copaganda at first.
No, I do not have dyslexia lol
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He was one of the “homegrowns”. Any bets on him going to CECOT?
Nah, he’ll become a brownshirt.
Agreed they’ll have him pardoned, kidnapping people and dragging them into unmarked cars as soon as possible
You mean silver shirt?
With a golden Trump pin
Young white men are being indoctrinated with 24/7 propaganda telling them they are the real victims
What/Where is this propaganda?
Its the lifeblood of the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Social media, podcasts and media
I’m sorry, I try to keep my media intake low, but what is being said that makes these white men feel like victims? Or, portraying them as the victim?
Are you really fully unaware of incels, the manosphere, and the alt-right pipeline? This shit is all over social media.
There’s a strong encouragement for men to fall into this “redpill” philosophy that casts everyone who doesn’t look like them, especially anyone who ends up on the less-privileged end of any measure of intersectional privilege, as an aggressor attempting to steal their place in society and “replace” them.
Have you heard anyone complaining about how you can’t make jokes anymore or can’t compliment women anymore? They’re echoing a hallucination of white male oppression by queer feminist socialists. In response they elected Trump and spend their days rumbling around in their massive coal-rolling pickup trucks that have never seen a speck of dirt or a heavier load than a few groceries or maybe a couch.
What’s the point of bringing this weird, condescending Reddit energy to what seems to be a genuine question?
Not everyone lives on the internet, not everyone knows what an incel is, or who Andrew Tate is or what a manosphere is. Why not just answer the question normally? Holy fucking moly.
In response they elected Trump
Young incel type white guys did? I thought most of them didn’t even bother to turn up. Look fuck the extremisation of the yutes through social media, it’s genuinely awful and will likely have long lasting effects but we can’t put the blame on them for all the ails in the world without recognizing that a lot of different segments of our population are fucking up right now and are in some small part contributing to more people being alienated from the left. You have to at least admit that it’s a little ironic to say that they’re imagining everything while also seemingly putting electing Trump solely on them. It’s ultimately counter productive in the long run.
It’s weird… cuz, even if there is a bias against white men, its still white men that rule the most of the world and have all the money, and run the major corporations. But white men feel like they’re getting replaced?
On the other hand, America has always been a mix, but always had a strong foundation of white men, and it does feel like that base might be changing. Something is changing
Edit: it’s flabbergasting that a reply like this gets down votes
Troll
It’s only offensive because It is something I don’t fully grasp. not a troll.
Even if you were a troll, your questions are worth asking. All the reactionary downvoting and accusations are because you made them have to think about their position so they get defensive and echo their aggregated hate. I wonder if they also espouse the lack of empathy of the other party. Imagine the hypocrisy.
Check Adolescence https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/adolescence for a drama on the topic.
Warning: VERY dramatic.
I see you’ve never heard of Fox News.
What if one doesn’t watch fox news?
You must be a victim.
No I don’t, you do.
🫂
Gonna gloss over this one, just another day in paradise
I was gonna say don’t you guys have like 1-2 mass shootings a day in the states? Not trying to be facetious here, genuinely asking. Because if it was like that in my country I’d have to become numb about it or go insane.
Well we don’t know because the republiQan party has maintained for a long time that the government explicitly not track them.
Who knows why? It’s a mystery!
I don’t think it’s quite 1-2/day. But for a tiny bit of context there was one at a high school in Dallas either yesterday or the day before.
Mass shootings yes, school shootings specifically no.
"There have been more than 488 mass shootings across the US so far in 2024, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people are injured or killed. Their figures include shootings that happen in homes and in public places.
For each of the last four years there have been more than 600 mass shootings - almost two a day on average. "
The definition for a mass shooting is an “incident in which four or more people were killed or injured”.
I stand corrected!
With about 600 events to be called mass shootings a year, 1-2 a day is correct.
Not like this, where random people are targeted by someone lashing out indiscriminately. Most of the statistics on mass shootings are gang related. These ones hit a little different so they are much bigger stories.
I am absolutely numb to the shootings to a degree The amount of gun crime in America you would think we should all personally know someone who has been shot at before.
Yes, but you also can’t compare Netherlands to the USA apples to apples. You could maybe compare 2 New Jersey’s to the Netherlands in terms of density and size, and yeah Netherlands would easily win, but I guess I’m just trying to say that the USA is closer a group of countries in a continent, than a bunch of states in a country.
What a pile of bullshit.
Add up mass shootings in all of Europe then. Guess what? The numbers will still pale in comparison.
Yeah, I agree. Compare Europe to the US, that makes sense. Europe wins hands down.
Netherlands also wins hands down, but it’s not a fair comparison to make.
I’m in Canada. I’m comparing green apples to red apples.
I’ll trade you some rotten red apples for one drop of syrup.
Suc
“Homegrown criminal” off to El Salvador with you! Right Donny? Right?!
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