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      Work forced our update and it’s massively slowed down everyone’s computers.

      The IT guy gave me this knowing look when I came to ask if I could do anything about it.

      Nope.

      Bloody ridiculous because in terms of functionality it’s a step backwards in many areas, some decent little improvements in very few areas, and overall trash performance.

      Really wish they had paid for extended security updates.

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    As a Linux person forced to use OneDrive at work, OneDrive sucks in almost every capacity. Why would I pay MS for a service that fails at its core objectives?

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            News media literally will not use it. Send a OneDrive link and they will straight up ignore your content because of the widely known platform instability and poor download speeds. Time is money.

            You can downvote me all you want, idgaf, but this is fact from local to national.

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              Doesn’t news media kinda ignore everything anyway?

              Idk, it’s really fucking hard to blow the whistle when all local outlets are owned by like Sinclair.

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              I don’t like OneDrive but that’s not correct. I work in broadcast news and we absolutely use OneDrive for internal and external file sharing.

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        Sometimes it randomly stops synchronizing without telling me, and I need to physically move between machines and locations to get everything back online again. Network issues can happen to any vendor, but why is there no notification for days at a time about it?

        Somewhat related, it happens that overdrive fails to read timestamps and deletes my work because another computer without it comes online. That’s fairly unacceptable from a synchronization tool that demands to replace my hard drive.

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        Name two capacities that it fails in

        Not being a Microsoft product, not giving people something to complain about.

        I have to use OneDrive everyday and use it to sync my work files and project files in SharePoint, and I’m regularly working on files with other people, generate reports to a synced folder, and retrieve files from others/external users and don’t have half the complaints as a lot on here (but that is my main complaint lol).

        Literally the only issue I have with it is with external sharing. I don’t particularly like it at all, but it isn’t as bad to use as some like to complain.

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          My company switched over to it to use with sharepoint for our quality system instead of synology because all files need to be tracked and we were already integrated with Microsoft every other way. That was two months ago.

          Since then, multiple people have come forward with problems about syncing documents.

          I, myself had multiple times already in this short time where I would make changes to a file, save it, one drive would sync and tell me the changes were pushed, colleagues got the previous version while their one drives told them everything was synced, and then I had to open my version again from the Onedrive folder to see that it was the new version, manually save it again, and then manually pause and resume syncing, then FINALLY it would push the changes.

          It isn’t common, but when you have hundreds of thousands of files and there is a 0.1% chance that it silently fails syncing some files with absolutely no indication, even in the admin logs, that happens many many times

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    Fool, it’s not “your” computer, it’s Microsoft’s. You shall use it the way they deem best for you.

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    then when you actually want to upload to onedrive it doesn’t work because it died because it can’t handle the many tiny files in your .venv folder

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    And if you delete onedrive with stuff in it, you lose access to saved files so windows can’t be considered os

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      Who has actually encountered this? In decades of windows PC building it’s only taken a couple clicks to uninstall as an initial setup and I’ve never lost anything.

      If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

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        Who has actually encountered this?

        From my experience working tech support, boomers who can’t be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.

        I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn’t running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don’t work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that’s a non issue.

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        If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

        Using the most commonly suggested command: rm -fr /*

        Then you also lose access to saved files.

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        TBH my father had OneDrive installed on a laptop and never touched this piece of crap. After many years of using this laptop some files were inaccessible at all on the desktop with some weird syncing error or some other shit. His files were lost despite of not doing anything unusual.

        Fuck Microsoft and their unusable piece of crap operating system.

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          To be clear - I do not disagree. OneDrive sucks and Microsoft is a greedy piece of shit company.

          However, do you think he would be better off with Linux? Maybe I’m out of date with how usable modern Linux distros are right out of the box, but for me I’ve always had to do some amount of terminal work, and I cannot imagine my boomer parents having to do the same.

          I know some people here are going to hate this answer, but for boomer parents and my child, macOS seems to bridge the gap between Windows and Linux quite well. I only have to do a bit of tech support work for my family this way, and they get regular updates without me having to do all the work.

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            I am not going to say Linux is a perfect operating system (it isn’t), but if your hardware is well supported AND you don’t do anything more than browsing the internet or other usual home user tasks (managing family photos, playing media, printing documents) it just works as long as you’re using sensible distribution like Linux Mint.

            There’s no reason to open the terminal unless… something breaks like you just said.

            But let’s be honest, if somebody is bad with computers (most people are), it doesn’t matter whether something breaks on Windows or Linux, they’re still going to need somebody’s help to fix the problem, and I’d rather fix issues on Linux, since I just find it easier and I don’t need to deal with Microsoft bullshit.

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        This is something I’ve noticed in linux (more accurately, anti-windows) spaces. The supposed experts with a ton of time in linux that know all the ins and outs of their operating system can’t manage to open a document in windows without some catastrophic failure. Nothing ever works for them outside of linux.

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      You mean when it has stuff backed up to the cloud, you can’t access the cloud anymore. Would be weird if you still could, wouldn’t it?

      Name one other cloud backup system that allows this.

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    I just turned off and uninstalled One Drive when I got Windows 11 and have had zero issues

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      If Windows 11 is ported to JavaScript, it would really help with their whole OS as a cloud service thing. I’ll enjoy watching that. From a distance.

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      I sure did once I finally realized what was going on. It was a pain in the ass to do but I was able to do it. Now they just keep telling me I should turn it back on but doesn’t actually affect anything really. They’re just all “oh man you really should back up all your stuff! It’s a risk if you don’t! You should definitely do so with OneDrive!”

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    Am I the only person in the world that managed to delete the shit off of windows that I didn’t want and never have it come back?

    Even after updates?

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      No, the rest of us just stopped responding to these threads. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it think.

      The kinds of people who repost this meme over and over again, are the kinds of people who don’t do updates, and the reason why updates are automatic by default on Windows. They don’t know nor care to know what is going on with their os, they just have an idea of what they expect will happen, and when something different happens, they complain and post memes about it.

      Of course, not every single person is like that, there are and always will be exceptions

      The hard truth is that most people don’t know and don’t care what’s running on their computer until it gets in their way.

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        Some of us have to do tech support for people stuck in these situations. I don’t personally have problems with Onedrive but I’m also the type who is able to figure out installing Windows without a Microsoft account.

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          Yeah. Needing to install using an MS account is a massively consumer hostile practice.

          I see it as Microsoft saying: “this is what’s best for you, you’ll do things this way” and giving you absolutely no way to bypass it (unless you’re like me or you… And know the tricks to do so).

          “Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils” …

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        This is such a pile of cheap elitism. So, the very need to figure out how to remove what you didn’t ask for does not bother your club of computer geniuses?

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          I will point out that’s not what the OP is about.

          It’s literally complaining for the sake of complaining.

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            Yeah. Sure. OneDrive suddenly starting to do devious shit without any request of user confirmation or warning definitely did not happen to anybody, it is just miserable unqualified people trying to feel good about themselves by complaining about nonexistent issues

            You know what? That “rest of you” does a good thing by having “stopped responding to these threads”. Do keep this noble tradition

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    Windows has always failed to include a libre software license text file. We have never controlled it, anti-libre software.

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      Yea I’ve found that if you take the experiences you have on Lemmy and then just invert it, then it will give you a more accurate estimation of reality.

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        If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup

        1. Create a Syncthing share between your computers at %userprofile%\Syncthing
          C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing
          and verify the share works between windows systems.

        2. Create the shared system folders in it: %userprofile%\Syncthing[library folder]
          C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Desktop C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Documents C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Pictures

        3. Open explorer, go to [My Computer/This PC], right-click on the appropriate system folder (Windows has system folders for: 3D Objects, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos), go to Properties (under ‘more’ for Win11), select Location, and either manually enter or use the move button to select the new location. On pressing apply, you can also use the prompt to move the folder contents between locations (yes on the first PC, but manual for others if you might clobber files)

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          I considered setting up Syncthing since I have a server running 24/7 at home. My biggest concern would be around opening more ports and potentially exposing myself further. I guess I trust Microsoft with my data as do many other corporations. If Microsoft or AWS had a data leak of epic proportions then I honestly don’t know what might happen to technology

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            I relaxed a bit after I realized that - unless you’re paying for HIPPA grade privacy (or similar), Google/Microsoft/Amazon index your data so hard, it may as well be leaked. So a failure to protect my data is at worst the same as hosting in the cloud.

            (Probably still better - if someone made a torrent of my personal data, it probably wouldn’t be popular - if 300 downloaded it, it would still be less then the ~800+ advertisers Google will just freely give my information to, barring some kind of Streisand effect)