cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388
Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!
Awesome! Now let’s get the EU one as well, much closer than before now. (840’000)
5 minutes later and it’s 843k, almost 1k signatures per minute, not bad at all!
844k now. Wow. I wonder what caused the sudden surge? Or is it just that most momentum can be gain at the start and towards the end like with Kickstarters?
After Ross announced the campaign is dead a bunch of YouTubers (and media, I think?) picked up the topic and started spreading the word far and wide. This is the result.
Here’s what bugs me: Why didn’t channels like GamerNexus and LTT cover the petition until after Louis declared it dead?
That’s actually one of the most annoying parts about the whole thing. SKG campaign has been running for what, a year now? Barely anyone with an audience cared enough to even look into it, let alone spread the news. Now that things came close to failing suddenly everyone thinks it’s an important topic and scrambled to make videos/posts/whatever. I’d like to give them the benefit of the doubt but I just don’t have that in me any more…
We could’ve been in so much better place with awareness, petitions and general sentiment if people in the industry actually cared about these things from the start.Better late than never, I guess. I just hope there’s enough time to push through the EU petition as well.
LTT likely because Linus is extremely out of touch. Like comically so.
Game nexus likely because Steve is more focused on other sectors of the industry. He’s a hardware and news guy more then a “gaming” channel in the strictest of sense. So it just very likely slipped his radar.
Piewdiepie made a community post yesterday supporting it and asking people to go sign if that has still something to do with it.
Well whatever it was it seems to be working. 876k now. Crossing fingers.
910k and going.
He seems to be doing good stuff. Kinda giving whiplash
2 hours later and it’s 860k.
2 more and it’s at 880k holy shit
1hr more and its 890k
900k
909k now. signed ✅
918k now. Not European, but you guys give me hope for the future :)
WHAAAT LETSGOOOOO DABABY. Thank you PirateSoftware for the publicity :3
And fuck you too btw PirateSoftware :)
Oh that’s good. I like that.
Is this about the WoW incident? Or dit something else happen?
He has made videos and numerous comments directing his audience not to sign, claiming it will kill games.
Than he has really lost it. Leaving a game that people paid for in a playable state is the least a developer/publisher can do.
Whats wrong with PirateSoftware? He runs a ferret rescue which doesn’t claim any tax incentives and he teaches people about security and ethics, I’ve never heard of him having beef with anyone.
Everyone has beef with him literally everyone. But he makes sure to ban from anything he can to keep them out of his chat or other places his community gathers.
Hes been grifting lying and grooming since second life. He just changes his name and moves to a new community when shit blows up in his face and it becomes too much of a problem.
His entire professional shtick is to make sure people don’t learn about his past and to lie and make himself look good
Yeah he seems pretty positive and helpful, so did his bias mislead him on this one?
Also I wasn’t even sure he was still a huge fan of his former employer—but now that I think of it I guess he was really pleased with his time there, cuz he’s proud of his ban wave strategies and stuff
He tends to be condescending, toxic, and dishonest. I happened to watch this video the other day that covers a fair bit of stuff including the stop killing games petitions, if you’ve got 20 minutes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=R-RaQZPzhqU
Things like
- completely misrepresenting the stop killing games initiative.
- bitching for quite a while that “someone” pulled a mob during a
world of warcraftraid causing a wipe, going back to see who it was to remove them, seeing it was himself and then justifying why it was now the right call. - running away from his group in world of warcraft in a fight claiming he has no mana, while he’s wasting moves to drain the last of his mana and he has ways of getting around half of it back. This was during some kind of creater guild thing where if you die you lose your character. So abandoning his team to save himself and lying about it.
- banning/blocking everyone who criticizes or corrects him on these things
- DMCA’d and threatened legal action on an indie dev for a parody game that included him as a cockroach.
That video was really good, felt kinda Drew Gooden-esque in parts.
Never meet your heroes ig
OOF
Pirate has a history of, grooming, digital labor theft, lying, sexism, scamming, being an asshole, to name a few things.
Hell his current persona isn’t even his first one. He never actually worked on blizzards security team, he was a support staff. Half his stories have been proven to be lies.
About the only thing that’s true is family connections got him a job there.
But the man his a raging narcissist and a grifter. The whole pirate software persona is just his latest grift.
Don’t stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.
Pedal to the metal on all fronts!
Peddle to the metal
Lol, nice pun, good one.
Honestly that was a typo on my part, I’m really tired rn lol
130k now with time left. I think we good.
Jesus what, a week or so ago this was dead in the water.
Nothing brings the internet together like hating a sexist self centered egotistical narcissist.
Seriously pirate has been an asshole for like 20 years. He’s been banned from furry communities, kicked out of second life communities, rejected from eve communities.
Now people are realizing how much of a scum bag he is in the streamer community.
The only upside his asshole self centeredness has draw crazy attention to the partition.
Who? I seriously have no idea who you’re talking about.
I honestly think that the main reason this has kicked off is that up until about a week ago it wasn’t really advertised. I didn’t even know that it started the petition up again, I knew the original one failed because parliament closed and for some reason that meant the petition had to end.
PirateSoftware (Thor) is a streamer and a game developer who is a narcissistic asshole. He’s been very against the SKG petition since I think the start since if it passed he would be forced to keep supporting his games once they fail (it’s happened before) and made a video trying to torpedo the petition some months ago by spreading disinformation that’s easily disproven with a halfway decent level of reading comprehension. Recently the guy who runs the SKG petition announced that Piratesoftware was successful, which caused a lot of big streamers and Youtubers to catch on and call PirateSofware out while endorsing SKG, including MoistCritikal. Since then the number of signings have skyrocketed.
Wait what’s this story about him being banned from furry communities? That sounds like a really fun story to read lol
I’m glad I’m not online enough to know of this guy!
Like the McRib and chlamydia, we’re back baby!
Don’t forget measles
And herpes! The gift that keeps on giving!
And Fashism!
Why are we all sleeping on the plague?
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What’s funny about this whole thing is it’s almost like PirateSoftwares days in EVE Online when he invited everyone to Pochven space cause he thought he was hot shit and then proceeded to get his ass handed to him and he rage quit the game. He brought attention to something that ended up having the opposite effect of what he wanted.
Granted he was absolutely shit at EVE regardless of what he’s told his audience. couldn’t fit a ship to save his life, ran for CSM and no one voted for him, then rage quit when everyone and even his own corp proceeded to kick his teeth in.
Haha, holy shit. Somehow I had never connected that Piratesoftware was Maldavius. Yeah, that explains so, so very much of this entire SKG debacle.
I dont get it, what’s this got to do with the petition?
He was against it, which resulted in a lot of negative opinions about the bill and netting less votes because of it. It’s gone full Streisand effect.
PirateSoftware was critical of the initiative when it first started. Some people attribute its initial lack of success to his opposition.
He was later involved in some drama and his reputation fell, and the petition’s creator finally addressed his claims. Now the petition is having a second wind in its final hour
He wasn’t just critical of it, he spread misinformation about it. It was wild to watch someone be so completely and utterly wrong, then double and triple and quadruple down on it.
The Streisand Effect
Is there a clip of this somewhere?
Keep going! Who knows how many signatures will be ruled as invalid.
Both are past 100k now! I want to issue a special “fuck you” to all the idiot streamers that tried to kill SKG. And of course a special “go fuck yourself” to PirateSoftware and Asmongold for being fuckwit right wing tools for corporations. You have a special place in my heart as illiterate lapdogs to shitty corporations and right wing shills.
Asmonpoop is a moronic bum and people went from “this weirdo is strangely entertaining” to " let me hear what my moronic hobo-idol has to say about this".
It is a little bit like how people supported Drumpf as a joke first.
Pirate Software too.
They’re both such idiot trolls.
PirateSoftware is what dumb people thinks a smart person acts like. His audience can’t even pay attention unless he draws boxes in paint. I do understand how he can seem initially likeable, but if you watch him for more than a couple of hours you’ll see his knowledge is shallower than a spilled glass of water.
Still in disbelief people think SKG is going to work. The premise fucking genocides the MMORPG genre. You kill games by implementing this horrible understanding of how games work.
I have never seen more people support games who have no fucking idea how games work and it’s the most frustrating shit ever. Pirate Software is right. It’s not even a debate.
It doesn’t.
It just requires that you provide a verson people can host themselves if you take your game offline.
And if a company refuses? They’re dead anyway. This is not well thought out and PS called it out. You have no actionable solution but are calling for one to just appear.
If they refuse to make a totally reasonable addition to their game then yeah they can’t publish it wow what a concept.
Lol so just kill all MMORPGs. Got it. You’re so smart.
Hold on there buddy! There’s no reason to be derogatory towards hobos like that. I don’t think I’ve ever been quite so offended on the internet as to have someone associate my good (user)name with the likes of Asmongold. If you don’t bring that down a notch I’m gonna send the ghost of Woody Guthrie to haunt you until your dying days.
They tried to kill it? Really? Like, “we must stop this from going forward!” In that way? Why would anyone attempt to stop it?
I still think this is going to fail. But I’m not trying to stop it. I hope it succeeds.
I also find the debate bros involved to be annoying.
Yep they actively campaigned against the petition and fundamentally misrepresented it.
10 months ago PirateSoftware started a campaign against it starting here-ish: https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y
Also 10 months Asmongold did a react video that supported PirateSoftware: https://youtu.be/AhVsyhjcndw
PirateSoftware refused to acknowledge that he got several things wrong, and even refused to acknowledge it when confronted. He actively bans people with dissenting opinions in his stream so it wasn’t surprising that he refused to acknowledge that he was wrong. About a week ago Charlie (aka Penguinz0) confronted him about it and he still refused respond to basic factual inaccuracies: https://youtu.be/6sJpTCitKqw
Ross did a video talking about the whole thing last week as well: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo
There’s a lot more to it, but that’s the broad strokes. I hope PirateSoftware’s stream keeps declining until he is relegated to complete obscurity. Also, PirateSoftware can eat my entire ass.
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I don’t like Asmon but my understanding is he supports SKG. Am I wrong?
Also I saw a clip of SomeOrdinaryGamers, which indicated that he tempered his support with a dash of (wrong) both-sides-ism. But it was only a clip.
Asmongold does that. Like the dude doesn’t have any real opinions other than what gets views. If he sees the winds changing he’ll pull a 180 in order to take the heat off himself. He also has hoards of followers and youtube minions to make him seem far more centerist than he is. He’s like the personification of the alt-right playbook for dummies.
I mean watch/listen to The Alt-Right Playbook series and tell me this is not what he does on a daily basis: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ
I know about PirateDouchebag, but I am not aware of Asmongold’s issue.
I apologize but, let’s say that I’ve living under a rock
Asmongold is a megaphone for shitty opinions. Like I posted elsewhere he’ll change his opinion if he gets called out, but the damage was done when he put it on the megaphone in the first place. His take on the “never play defense” is to not have any actual opinions when confronted then just go right back to saying other right wing bullshit.
Didn’t it already reach the threshold last year and the government (or the civil servant in charge of rejecting every petition) closed it saying that current consumer protection laws already apply?
My understanding is that they misunderstood the petition, so this new one is rephrased in an attempt to avoid another misinterpretation
Politicians seem very good at misunderstanding things when it suits them.
It was extremely clear what the previous petition was, it was just they weren’t interested in doing anything so they intentionally misunderstood.
Fingers crossed!
Is that why they left “from” out of the title?
Good job UK ! Now cancel Brexit and vote for the EU one !
The hostility from the EU about the UK rejoining (especially from France) tells me that’s not likely to happen.
Good. States shouldn’t be able to just go out on a whim and immediately go back in again like it’s a revolving door. The consequences should be severe for leaving. Otherwise voters in other member states will pull this shit as well, because they think they can just rejoin when the next pro EU government comes around. Also many voters in the UK voted for leave as a protest vote not because they actually wanted to leave. They didn’t understand the ramifications of their vote. Let the UK be the example of what a protest vote can cause.
Surely the opposite should be true. It just shows that countries cannot leave the EU because it is far too damaging to their economy
not quite sure how you expect to cancel anything which already happened
Fell asleep, woke up, suddenly there’s only 30k left on the EU initiative.
Now it’s just 20k
Only 4K!
Only -1800!
The EU page started 404ing for me right when it should have hit 1 mil; are we being trolled?
Edit: nvm worked from desktop. Maybe just hug of death.
It is still getting hugged, I guess people are rushing to add their names now that it is a won battle.
Edit: managed to load at 999,614.I am a little worried that some of the surge in signatures has been botting, but I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
You need to identify yourself with a state issued form of identification so I doubt botting happened.
Not in every country. In about half of them, you only need to provide a name, address and date of birth.
Sheesh. Was jot aware of that. Still hope people were not dumb enough to bot it.
Some definitely were, but hopefully not too many. There’s still almost a whole month left to build up a solid buffer.
Well to be honest if the only info needed is like name and date of birth I could just enroll my whole family and technically all would be legitimate signatures right?
Depends heavily on country.
Keep pushing. There are probably people using VPNs to sign the petition and those will get purged. Either from idiots who don’t know better or AAA studios trying to get people to stop now that it’s reached the goal. This is true for both the UK and EU petitions.
99.09%🙏🙏
Heh yeah!
great stuff!!!