Before children and during the pandemic I did, but with one simple change, home office instead of 3 hours commuting in heavy traffic.
Same.
I have no kids. My employer just told us we had to be in the office 5 days a week now and I don’t have time to do anything anymore. I lost a big chunk of my spare time and freedom and I just feel like burning the office down now.
Employer here. Look for an alternative offer to leverage. Tell both parties that home office guarantees in writing will have a lot of weight in your final decision.
Yeah that’s what I’ve been trying to do. But nobody’s hiring right now. Or they don’t want to pay a decent salary.
Besides, they’re already forcing us to wear a suit and tie. To be in a cubicle office as IT consultants. To communicate with each other via MS Teams…
This sounds like hell. I’m sorry to hear this.
Ahhh the before time
Right?? What kind of 90’s office hell is this?
And this is coming from the founder who gave his company to his children but still hangs around to terrorize the employees with the threat of getting fired if they don’t do as he says.
Sounds bad. What skills are you looking to employ in which rough area?
Employee here. If you need an alternative offer to get reasonable considerations from your employer, just take the alternative offer. The employer clearly doesn’t respect you and your current leverage is just a short term tool until they start taking advantage of you again.
Yeah I was assuming their employer wants to keep them. This is how you negotiate change. My employees are all 100% home office if they want and come in regularly by choice.
Did they take your stapler?
If you bike to work, you feed two birds with one scone.
It snowed 10 inches here today. Not really an option everywhere
Then you’re getting that upper body & core shovel workout.
Gotta put those snow tires on.
lol have you tried biking in half a foot of snow, even with a fat bike? that shit is hard as hell and slow as fuck
I bike in the winter to get groceries and stuff, but it’s on mostly plowed surfaces
I was just kidding, I grew up in snowy winters.
An offroad motorcycle though…
An offroad motorcycle though…
There more pleasant ways for a suicide, no?
Biking through unplowed snow sucks, but it’s hardly impossible. The worst part about it is having to deal with traffic at the same time
TIL it doesn’t snow in Netherlands and Denmark /s
Snows very little in the Netherlands these days.
if you’re in a city, then it’s still possible, your local government just says ‘fuck you’ to non-drivers
but yeah not much you can do if you’re rural in that situation
of course, half of drivers can’t drive in more than 2 in of snow anyways

Literally my dad these days.
come on. do it!
its not really 10 inches :-)
That’s a great opportunity to go by ski, if the distance is reasonable.
Break out the xc skis!
angry sentiment. the people having nothing better to do than shouting “biking! is the best thing in the world. everybody should do it” for one misses that not everybody wants to do it (and being pressured to do sth causes an understandable and hefty backlash) and that more important, it’s ableist because it assumes everybody is physically healthy enough to even bike in any weather.
for example, my throat reliably hurts every time i bike in temperatures of below 5°C. that’s not because i’m really disabled, but because cold, icy wind + sensitive throat = sore throat. that sucks.
and that’s besides the point that my coworkers wouldn’t really appreciate to smell my sweat for 6 hours (we have no shower in office). and i also don’t want to be in sweat-sticky clothes all day long.
Your reply is ableist because it’s hard for dyslexics to read.
If you can’t ride a bicycle, then find some other synergistic way to save time.
Simple solution.
You have to make work side project too and gym what you for for fun / hobby.
Too bad if the only thing you hate more than exercise is the job.
I combined work and gym and I’m now doing back breaking labour. 10/10 would recommend
This guy understands capitalism.
I think you need to reassess your understanding of the definition of the word “simple”.
It’s simple, but it might not be easy
Except that it’s not? Why would you force yourself to make working out your hobby? That’s very limiting. Your side project can’t always be your job either. In some cases doing that might even take all the fun out of it.
Simple–easy to understand or do; not difficult
Emphasis is mine
When I was younger, I worked a physical job and went rock climbing frequently. I did bike to work too¹, and I was in pretty darn good shape. I made most of my hobbies athletic for like a decade, and kept that shape.
Plenty of time left for sufficient sleep. Not that I got sufficient sleep, but that was just hubris, I could’ve if I wanted to.
General LPT: Do athletic hobbies.
¹ Because I was a badass. My commute was a painted-line bike lane on the side of a 3-lane highway. I get the frustration with constantly being told to “just bike” when it simply isn’t practical for the average person, at least around me.
It’s only really feasible if your fitness activities are also your hobbies and you have friends who share said hobbies. For example, rock climbing, running.
Most of the people I know who do this consistently / longer-term are young adults and/or on drugs. Not like street drugs, but some combo of legally prescribed stimulant/anti-depressant/performance enhancing/hormone/weight-loss stuff. Modern medicine has the answers (for some).
A common scenario I’m seeing is that folks in their 30s, 40s, and 50s are being diagnosed with things like ADHD for the first time, and suddenly once they’re on the proper stimulants, they can full throttle, always be doing something. I’m also seeing this a lot with folks who go on GLP-1 drugs. They lose a bunch of weight in a short amount of time and suddenly feel a lot better, mentally and physically. The other thing I see going on is people getting on hormone replacement or starting performance enhancing drugs a bit later in life, seems to be a real motivating factor for them since they’re suddenly feeling 20 years younger.
So, maybe the answer is be young and if you can’t be young, do drugs?
guess that’s where many go wrong… be young and do drugs
The adults are gonna be alright
For a serious answer, it requires a level of strict discipline and adherence to schedule that makes any reward you get from it feel hollow
168 hours in a week
Minus 56 for sleep is 112
Minus 40 hour work week is 72
Minus half hour commute 5 days a week is 67
67
Minus 65 hours doomscrolling in bed is 2
How tf am I supposed to have hobbies and health with only 2 hours of free time every week?
spend less on candles
“no”
You actually don’t have those 2 hours left. It’s a half hour commute 1 way. Meaning an hour a day for 5 days not 30 mins for 5 days. Looks like you may need to cutt out 30 mins of doomscrolling.Nm. You did the math right, I just read it wrong without checking your working.
People that do these things generally have a ton of energy, are incredibly disciplined, do things quickly, and to a pretty large amount, box-checkers and/or future-borrowers.
If you’re a 45-60 minute showerer, you’re going to have trade-offs
If you have threesomes during the week, you’re going to have trade-offs
If you are the type of person who needs to actually feel peaceful the majority of the time, trade-offs
The ADHD person needs more hours in the day. For everyone else, there’s half-assing it.
Priorities are everything. There isn’t enough time to get everything in life. A lot of us have fallen con to the box-checker’s quantity and compare ourselves to that. It may take some self work, but figuring out what actually makes you happy and what makes that sustainable is a pretty big, but worthwhile challenge. I’m in my 30s and still working on it, for what it’s worth. Different people figure this stuff out at different rates, and my hypothesis is that your availability of resources and birth privileges are big factors in the time it takes to figure that out.
In other words, stop worrying about what makes other people happy, and focus on what makes you happy. There may be overlap, but there also may not be. We’re all different and that’s okay.
As someone who needs to actually feel peaceful while I have 45-60 minute threesomes in the shower during the week, I’m all set.
Also, as a society, we spend far too much time working to live and it’s bullshit.
It’s so messed up how normalised that got.
“So wait we work for half our waking day?”
“Yes, but you also get two whole days off per week”
“Woah that sounds almost too good to be true.”
We had to fight tooth and nail for even that.
But fr I think the biggest error was that we didn’t demand working hours be cut in half during women’s liberation. The idea that one person can spend half their time working for pay to provide for themselves and a kid or two, so two people can provide for a full family together and have time to split the domestic labor is key.
Not while also being a parent. Most of my hobbies and leisure / friend time has taken a giant shit since I became a dad.
Not with two kids I ain’t doing all those, no.
Yes, but as you age you don’t need as much socializing and you have established good friendships so you can jump right in.
But I do track everything for fun (like a diary). Last Sunday to Saturday i reached:At 7hrs 4min of excercise last week, 45.3 hrs sleep, 1260 grams of protein, 7 pieces of nicotine gum, 28oz of whiskey (4oz/day), etc…
Highlights: Had a pr at the gym, squatted 410lbs. Baddthings: Had gym fail at ju jitsu, spit my mouth guard onto my bros face. Sorry C! Also argued w my sister over text
Nice squat brother!
I love you, let’s run away together.
I’ve since made up w my sister. That is all
the trick, i’d imagine, is to be rich enough that you don’t have to deal with doing your own chores or errands (let the servants get groceries and cook and clean and drive you places).
You’re not suppose to go to the gym every single day in most cases. The “average” resistance trainer might spend 3 hours total per week in the gym. (I.E. 3 days a week. 1 hour each session) Maybe more maybe less. Maybe a lot less. I only go once a week when I’m cutting. But that’s just me. Granted his isn’t including de-load weeks or full rest days. Which you absolutely need unless you’re Achilles himself, and look what that got him.
If you’re going to the gym “every day” for basic cardio. I would highly suggest investing in a home treadmill or similar instead. There are also a ton of stationary cardio exercises you can also look into or research online. Otherwise, most people can usually find some smaller, no bells and whistles, used treadmills/elipticals for fairly cheap if you look around and/or get lucky. Hell, I see people giving away cheap stationary bikes for free all the time. Depends on what you’re looking for and what your goals are.
I really don’t think that’s possible if you’re neurodivergent and unmedicated. There are too many bees buzzing in our heads to be that productive.
Not all types of neurodivergence fit that description or require medication.
It’s also completely unrelated to the question. It’s like me asking “how can people run 42km” and some rando saying “it’s impossible if you have no legs”.















