• HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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    26 days ago

    I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.

    None of these chuds have ever watched a minute of PBS in their adult lives.

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      26 days ago

      Its a mistake to believe that this is an irrational or ignorant decision. These guys KNOW what the message of PBS is and there is a reason they don’t want it to get to kids. They are making child soldiers and they don’t want people giving them inconvenient values.

      You guys are telling jokes while the other side is building an army. Maybe start taking this shit seriously.

      • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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        26 days ago

        100%. American liberals really do think this is just more of the same old Bush-era GOP misbehavior and are responding to it as such.

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          The thing is, if you’re an American and you know how hard it is to simply vote out fascism, and if you understand how close America’s empire is to the brink of disaster, you’re either running or, lacking the means, mentally preparing yourself for a struggle to survive.

          I pulled up stakes and left, but I still have to keep my sense of humour to stay sane.

    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca
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      26 days ago

      It’s really easy! If you imagine that a black person and a white person could never be friends or spend positive time together, and then you saw a show that had them together, you might conclude the show is trying to convince you something is okay that you know is not. Propaganda.

      If you imagine that a gay person is inherently wrong, and that bad things deserve to happen to them as punishment for their choices, and then you watch a show where a gay person is happy and normal and respected, you might conclude the show is trying to push an idea on you that you already know isn’t right. Propaganda.

      It’s sad, and dangerous, but it’s not complicated.

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        Thank you so much for commenting this. It’s so annoying to see both the original screenshot and so many exchanges in here either playing dumb or actually being dumb about WHY they see PBS as propaganda. As always, people are more interested in appearing to preach epic gotcha wins to their own choir, while totally sweeping the real meaning of their opponent’s statement under the rug. It’s not being nice and learning to read that the right takes issue with PBS over, it’s race, gender, and sexuality issues. But rather than respond to them on that more difficult ground, the masses choose to go for pointless low hanging fruit like “lol so you hate kindness???”, and then congratulate the OP for owning the right, meanwhile the right is totally unphased by that completely off-topic mark-missing response. And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.

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          Tolerance for others and their inherent traits is basic kindness. So yes, if you are not OK with black/queer people than you hate kindness.

          And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.

          Modern western “right wing” are outright fascists. We should not concern ourselves with what they think of us, except if it helps us fight their ideology. You won’t be able to convince them with logical arguments of any quality, because they hold their position not because of logic but because of repeated propaganda that leverages the inherent human fear of unknown and different.

          The most realistic way I see of things changing is as follows:

          Capitalism will inevitably squeeze those people harder and harder, until they can’t afford groceries and rent, despite millions of immigrants being deported and woke TV programs being banned. At that point they might question their ideology and yearn for change, and the left needs to be ready. If the western left once again squanders its potential and do-nothing neolibs (a-la Biden or Harris) get back in office, you can kiss your civil rights goodbye, because they won’t fix the fundamental issues with the system and the voters will swing to fascists again the next cycle.

          What needs to happen is that at least demsocs like Mamdani getting into offices all over the country. If that happens, they might at least do something to fight against capitalism and unlimited extraction of surplus labor, and improve material conditions for people, at least a little bit. If that happens under left’s watch, people will associate the ideology with good material conditions, and will appreciate its other tenets (human rights, equality, tolerance, inclusion) more. Whether this leads to vaguely left-wing rule for a while, a-la FDR, or an actual outright revolution is of course questionable, but it’s the only way forward for the US IMHO.

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            Y’all need to make a third party that represents the left, because Democrats never will.

            Start with local elections and build your rep, you need a genuine left leaning pressure on the politics of your nation - showing that people will show up to vote for real left leaning values is the way.

            The DSA should become a party of their own right.

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              We’ve had third parties of various types for centuries, it has become a financial impossibility for third parties to succeed in modern America.

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          I completely understand your argument and I agree, but I would also say that acceptance of other races, sexualities, nationalities, etc is , at its core, just kindness, and that MAGA generally dislikes kindness toward anyone who isn’t cis, white, and American, or a token minority who agrees with their policies. That’s kind of one of the main problems with MAGA.

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            They don’t even like kindness for themselves. They like rigid obedience. The instant anyone steps out of line they get beaten into submission or disowned.

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          this is a stephen colbert joke from his colbert report era. he was portraying a right wing media troll, so in this case, liberal means liberal the way rush limbaugh, sean hannity, tucker carlson, ben shapiro, or nick fuentes means liberal. it’s anyone who thinks living in an oligarchy is a bad thing

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      26 days ago

      I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.

      Propaganda, that’s how.

      The Reich wing is infuriatingly effective at using projection as both a defensive measure and an assault.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      Or maybe they did. Seaseme Street might go over the heads of maga voters. And Mr Rodgers messages of inclusion and empathy are far out of their mental grasp.

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      If it’s not their propaganda they think it is the other way… instead of ya know… just facts or basic learning.

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      Well, technically, anything that spreads a message or ideal is propaganda. If you think something isn’t propaganda, it’s because you already agree with the message.

      It’s just that in this case the message is “Be kind. Science is cool” and only a christofascist would think that is a bad thing to spread.

        • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.world
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          No, it’s really just the shit hole confederate states that take more in federal funding than they provide in taxes, and also have the worst education/literacy rates, and highest poverty rates.

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      26 days ago

      Arkansas ranks 45 out of 51 states in education.

      So, let’s say the kid gets up at 6am. PBS listings:

      • 6:00 – Pinkalicious and Peterriffic: Gingerbread House; Christmas Tree Trouble: “Pinkalicious” and Peter build a gingerbread house that attracts Sarafina, a holiday fairy
      • 6:30 – Curious George: George Digs Worms; Everything Old Is New Again: George’s entry into the world of worm racing faces a giant hurdle when Mr Quint picks up the wrong lunch box; George learns about recycling, and sets out to recycle everything he possibly can.
      • 7:00 – Sesame Street: Elmo’s Morning Routine: Elmo and Abby help Crystal the Ball invent a morning routine.
      • 7:30 – Milo: Milo the Decorator: Otto is needed elsewhere, so Milo and pals set to work painting Dame Delores’s ballroom.
      • 8:00 – Work it Out Wombats: Zadie’s Horrible Haircut; Zadie’s Horrible Haircut; A Day Out With Babby: SUPER anxious about going to the barber, Zadie decides to cut her own hair. To fix this disaster, Zadie needs to face her fear of getting a haircut. When it comes to playdates, Malik discovers that smart devices have their limitations.

      Golly such offensive content. The kids might actually learn something on Sesame Street!

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        All I see is pure unadulterated brainwashing sir. Now if you’ll please leave us all alone we’d like to continue watching Fox.

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          You’d think that Fox News would at least be trying to take advantage of this by rolling out something like “Fox News Jr.” with angry propaganda for 8 year-olds. But, I guess they’re just happy to see kids forced to watch any for-profit TV channel.

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    PBS isn’t perfect, but it’s publicly accountable and transparent—more than most for-profit networks.

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      The exact reason it has to go. Too much oversight, not enough pandering and way way too much science.

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      PBS is part-funded by government, but also relies on transmission fees paid by the affiliates for network programming, as well as corporate and viewer donations. This will further reduce the money in the PBS system as it will no longer get fees or donations from Arkansas.

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    The fact that American taxpayers actually finance right-wing indoctrination to a considerable extent seems to be overlooked here, which is probably due to this very right-wing indoctrination.

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    How does the state have the power to prevent PBS from being broadcast? PBS is broadcast on affiliate stations that aren’t owned by the state (usually)

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      AETN was the affiliate there, they cut ties. State is taking credit cause racing to the bottom is Arkansas to a T

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    bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe, WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg

    Then chalk this item up with the million-and-one things that are completely ignored by the spiritually purified lazy mediocre idiots who passively let all this happen, this death by a million-and-one cuts, since Reagan.

    But boy oh boy by golly, they sure do feel they are doing their part by chuckling at political zingers online, after the damage is done, because they let the mouth-breathers through the front door and gave them the goddamned keys to the house and car in the first place.

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      Blaming voters for how they vote is like blaming the weather when the forecaster got it wrong. We handed Harris an unprecedented amount of money and attention but her team made the wrong predictions on what would get people to vote. We can continue to blame misinformed voters and keep losing or we can learn a different lesson.

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      bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe, WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg

      Seriously, the fake “progressives” who refused to vote are the most detestable group in this mess. At least Trump supporters are brainwashed idiots. Fake “progressives” knew better and STILL helped Trump come back to power.

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    When your entire platform is “dumb people will let us do whatever the hell we want”, reading and education become your enemies.

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    When the orange rapist dies these freaks are going to keep dragging this nation down for the remainder of our lives.

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    I’m aware of at least one MAGA person with a kid who is like 10 and can’t read.

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      with a kid who is like 10 and can’t read.

      And is exposed to all the garbage and domestic violence.

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      This is devastating to me, as an 8yo I was already reading medical textbooks. I can’t imagine what it would be like to not have such foundational knowledge, but if I were to assume then it must be a rather dull and boring lifestyle, perhaps even dangerous whenever there’s warning signs that don’t use symbols.

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      Teachers’ classes are, sadly, full of such kids, there are many first-hand accounts out there over the past few years. It precedes COVID, but the pandemic definitely exacerbated it.

      This is not nearly a MAGA-specific issue.

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    The disparity between red and blue states keeps growing…

    For anyone from Arkansas: disparity means contrast

    (I’m kidding, I’m kidding, I know our Arkansas blue dots here on Lemmy aren’t dummies)

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    They’re trying to catch up to the shittiest educational states around them in a race to the bottom.