• Strider@lemmy.world
      111·
      11 days ago

      From the bottom of my heart fuck rolling releases. Never worked for me (nobody get worked up please, ymmv).

      • gustofwind@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        11 days ago

        lol it’s funny how proactively defensive everyone is about their distro choices

        I use a Mac for my server 🤓

    • mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz
      9·
      11 days ago

      I’ve been living with fedora (ultramarine) kde for a while now because people praised fedora so much, but i think mint still wins. and i chose ultramarine because am a noob, don’t sue me.

      there are many little things that just don’t work and i seriously can’t figure out. here’s a few: discover fails to update the system and i always have to do it manually from the terminal. wine is broken, it literally can’t run anything i throw at it that worked on mint. plasma theme customization is somewhat broken (also custom themes prevent updating…). using alt key in games run with wine causes some annoying notification sound (not in system keyboard shortcuts). often keyboard leds stay on when system suspended, system can’t be woken up from keyboard. can’t use flameshot with kb shortcut.

      this isn’t a hate comment though, a lot of things are better than i had with mint cinnamon. i do like how it’s a lot faster than mint when under heavy load, autosuspend actually works, no issues with screen not waking up. currently my media pc with mint can’t update because all sources are unavailable and it has some conflict with python3 which it won’t let me uninstall (which i suspect would be unwise, idk)

      • gustofwind@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        11 days ago

        I can only recommend regular Fedora because I have a feeling you just wouldn’t have those issues but I am not a doctor.

    • satanmat@lemmy.world
      5·
      11 days ago

      Kinoite Ride or die

      FOR ME it does the things I need it to do; and it works; and hasn’t blown up my house yet so 🤞

  • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de
    33·
    12 days ago

    There is no one reliable distro. Mint, itself is based off Ubuntu and also releases LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).

    If reliablility is measured in terms of how stable a distro is, then likely Debian with it’s conservative approach to packaging updates comes to mind (No wonder large number of distros are based off Debian only).

    I would even argue as long as someone isn’t messing with a niche distro such as KDE Neon( meant to showcase KDE packages) or Linuxfx (or whatever it has renamed itself to, one of the few shady ones IMO ) or Trisquel OS (a GNU certified distro where running into dependency hell isn’t new); it will suit user’s case.

    Debian, Slackware, Void, Zorin, even rolling release like Arch (basically any one that meets the user’s use case is reliable)

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
      181·
      12 days ago

      I would even argue as long as someone isn’t messing with a niche distro such as KDE Neon

      KDE Neon is dead because its developers found out that putting an add-on repository on top of Ubuntu is not reliable at all. That’s why KDE Linux is now in development.

      • [object Object]@lemmy.world
        51·
        11 days ago

        Is there a writeup about their problems with Ubuntu? Adding repositories to Debian and/or Ubuntu is how plenty of software is distributed, so I’m surprised to hear they’re unhappy with it.

      • djdarren@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        11 days ago

        I used Neon for a while, discovered that KDE were letting it go, and switched to Kubuntu. I love Kubuntu.

  • HexagonSun@lemmy.zipEnglish
    32·
    11 days ago

    Went back to Mint a few times but ultimately I like Plasma over Cinnamon, so Debian it is!

    • bisby@lemmy.world
      113·
      11 days ago

      You do know that you don’t have to change distros to change DE right?

      • HexagonSun@lemmy.zipEnglish
        7·
        11 days ago

        Yep. I was using Plasma on Mint for a while but the consensus was you’re best off using a DE officially supported by the distro.

        Never encountered any issues personally up to that point, but seemed to be the majority opinion when I researched it.

        But my most recent switch was from Endeavour, so made much more sense to install Debian 13 than to Install Mint and then immediately switch DE.

      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev
        6·
        11 days ago

        I absolutely loved the release of LMDE, it’s just what I like though, the simple intuitive interface of Mint, without dealing with Canonical’s bullshit (really sour about snaps, ignore me lol).

        Edit: picked back up my phone and reread what was on the screen when I realized you probably meant desktop environment and not Debian Edition when you typed DE.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    29·
    11 days ago

    I never left!

    I think I’m just old enough, have fiddled with my PC enough times in the past, have enough other shit to do, and get enough coding and troubleshooting experience at work that I look at the quest to find my spirit distro and think “that’s a youngster’s game.”

    Or, you know, maybe Mint is already my spirit distro and I am experienced enough to not fix what isn’t broken!

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
      9·
      11 days ago

      Ah that explains it, I no longer understand a single thing about computers or what people do with them anymore. You’ve explained it perfectly.

      And here’s the thing: I don’t even want to know. It’s not like I’m trying to understand but can’t, I just don’t care. I don’t get it.

      People with 100TB home servers, people with 3D printers and boxes filled with trash, endless upgrades for no visible change, etc

      I don’t have a single need or want that ends with “I need a new computer”.

      • Zink@programming.dev
        7·
        11 days ago

        I completely understand the sentiment!

        I am still into some tech and “new computer” type stuff. I am about to install a bigger/faster drive in my PC and set up my Home Assistant server. That PC is already my Jellyfin server. I am also in the middle of building a brand new PC for my kid, which will also run Mint, lol.

        But I spend time only on the things that I’ve learned really matter to me, and not on all the things you’re “supposed to” mess with in your home lab that you obviously have.

        You know the meme (or meme category) where it’s a resume or linkedin profile where the recent work history goes something like Senior Network Architect, then Goose Farmer?

        I may literally have a 3D printer still in the box, and PC & networking parts all over the house, but my daily routine is embedded linux C/C++ sr developer by day and animal tender on the evenings and weekends, lol.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      Some reasons

      • Package availability
      • Preconfiguration curiosity
      • Features (e.g. USE flags, different inits, musl, package manager speed, newness vs stability, different core utils, etc)
      • Reliability
      • Education
      • Community

      But yeah… It’s a mite silly to be distro-hopping just to try different desktop environments.

      Methinks several still-new users are yet to realise the desktop environment and distro are not tied together, and nearly all distros offer nearly all desktop environments to install, just one command away.

      It gets even more fun when exploring all the window managers, not just the few desktop environments. And… there be ways to ease that exploration even further.

  • lmuel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    20·
    11 days ago

    Yup, I do regular distrofuckery on my spare pc but Mint is just a rock solid option for me, great distro, feels good.

  • mikerr@programming.dev
    18·
    11 days ago

    Mint forever, Ubuntu without the snaps, and It generally is fuss free.

    Shout-out to antiX though, revived many a “useless” old laptop with that.

  • Brusque@lemmy.world
    18·
    11 days ago

    Just switched from Mint to CachyOS due to some upgraded hardware and it’s been pretty nice so far. Mint will stay on all my other devices though.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      11·
      11 days ago

      I’m surprised you didn’t stick with NixOS. After spending tens of hours learning how to use it, the sunk cost fallacy is strong.

      • cally [he/they]@pawb.social
        3·
        11 days ago

        I had already converted my home manager configuration into normal config files and was using Home Manager just to manage symlinks.

        I was using Nix for system configuration but that doesn’t mean that I forgot how to set up a Linux system by more conventional methods (it’s like learning how to ride a bike). While I do like the declarative aspect, doing everything in one language didn’t appeal anymore after over a year of using NixOS…

        Also, I wanted a package manager that told me what packages would be updated, and which let me search packages from the command line easily… Nix didn’t provide that and it was annoying me.

        I do miss flake.nix or shell.nix files and Nix shells though. But XBPS (Void’s package manager) has its fair share of cool things as well and seems easier to understand, which is a bonus.

      • girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        11 days ago

        Just delete the configuration.nix file along with all backups of it and its easy to not look back. At least that did it for me since my system needed specific boot settings to even work and relearning all that wasn’t worth it.

  • PointyFluff@lemmy.ml
    14·
    10 days ago

    An OS should GTFO and let you get on with the business of doing shit on your computer, Linux Mint does that nicely. 🐧

    • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
      55·
      10 days ago

      except it doesn’t. Fixed release model quite easily gets in a way of doing shit. Need to add a PPA into config for each separate package you need the latest release of, or simply because the package itself is absent in the normal repo doesn’t help either. And don’t get me started on troubleshooting after “doing shit”.

      Something like fedora does a much better job if you prefer fixed release, but if you like to experiment and “do shit”, arch derivatives like Endeavor or Cachy are just better suited for you. All of the above also have a much nicer documentation than Mint.

        • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
          23·
          10 days ago

          well, it apparently was an issue for me on Mint, when i just switched from windows.

          I might misremember things, but i believe some Microsoft stuff was inside PPA, so for someone just switching from windows it’s actually more likely to delve into the apt fuckery.

          Noob distro btw

          • eli@lemmy.world
            1·
            6 days ago

            I also had the same experience with Mint having outdated packages. And at that time I was a Linux noob so I figured I’d just wait until Mint updated their shit.

            Well days turned into weeks and then about 3 months later, still with no updates from Mint, I jumped ship to Fedora. Which Fedora was nice but then I hopped to Kubuntu and now I’m on CachyOS.

            I see all of this Mint hype and while I do love Cinnamon; I would never put Mint on my own devices going forward. It’s definitely a distro I would put on my mom’s laptop or a grandparent’s device. But their release schedule is abhorrent.

          • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
            2·
            10 days ago

            Well, I switched to Linux to get away from Microsoft bullshit so I never tried installing any of their stuff but I can see that being an issue for some people.

          • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            Didn’t he recently switch to something else? I forget what. Maybe I’m misremembering.

            • Allero@lemmy.today
              1·
              5 days ago

              Didn’t hear about it, at least recently when Linus Torvals came to Linus Sebastian (aka Linus Tech Tips), they were still discussing Fedora

              • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                1·
                5 days ago

                I probably misremembered.

                I thought it was in that that he mentioned he’d recently changed to something else.

                Maybe crossed wires in my memory. Ugh, I don’t wanna go rewatch that… fun as it was.

          • Bluewing@lemmy.world
            2·
            10 days ago

            Only because it’s easier and faster to install new kernels with. Otherwise, I suspect he doesn’t much care about gaming or other more “normal uses.”

      • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 days ago

        In the context of the comment, “do shit” is explicitly not anything to do with the OS or packages or repos.