The working class get the ‘get fucked’ tax on top of the costs. Companies get cheap power to make more money.
I’d like to see this graph with the EU power costs. I pay AVG € 0,27 per kWh now. Used to be € 0,20 before the attack on Ukraine began. That’s a 35% increase.
It’s what the maga working class voted for. That, and cruel deportations.
You think fucking over the working class is MAGA specific? Fucking us over is 100% bipartisan.
Scratch a both sideser, find Russian agitprop. Every goddamn time.
That’s cute when liberals try to co-opt phrases they don’t know how to use.
Are Russians in the room with you right now?
No but they are all over your comments, it’s like you work for RT or something. You sure do repeat basically all their points ad nauseum.
Liberals conflate everything that conflicts with the echo chamber as Russian
What? I pay around ninety cents! What is this shit.
My electric bill last month would have been $1,700 at that rate. We would just have to freeze to death.
Damn I pay around 7c + 3€ static fee
The AI data centers and crypto miners should be paying much higher rates than everyone else.
That’s not how capitalism works.
Privatize the profits, socialize the costs
Amen.
Yes, I am Fucking Pissed at my energy bills for the last 6 months. Like WTH. It is like $500 a month vs what was $300 max. I told my husband… it is time to start investing in solar generators. We are getting screwed for some stupid tech boy.
I would love if this creates some kind of decentralized energy network. You know how you can sell your energy back to the grid when you have solar surplus? We should have the option of choosing the rate too. If they don’t want to pay our prices, they don’t need our electricity,
I don’t know anywhere you can actually sell it back to the network, usually they just give you credits that deduct future payments, so you can’t ever get money out of it. But maybe that’s only some places.
You could when solar fist started becoming available. Energy companies quickly realized that if everyone did that, they’d have way too much power during the day, and none at night.
Our local co-op power generator barely makes it useful to have solar unless you also have battery storage.
In my naive view I don’t see why they wouldn’t just give less and less money until they’re effectively giving you none or even charging you for putting it back into the grid. It would then incenticize people to get battery banks and put it in during the night.
But again, naive view. Maybe I’m missing something obvious.
You know how you can sell your energy back to the grid when you have solar surplus?
I know this is for the USA, but I’d like to point out something really fucked: in Denmark, if you don’t use the energy your solar power produces, YOU have to pay the energy company for the extra electricity you put into the grid! Like… What‽‽‽
YOU have to pay the energy company for the extra electricity you put into the grid! Like… What‽‽‽
That might be logical in some situations. Where there’s surplus in the grid and it plays the role of amortizer of what you give it. They can’t just shut you off when they are getting too much load. Or they can but prefer to have a soft curve where you get less and less until you start paying for what you give.
Like water is a resource, but you do pay for water disposal (that is, I live in Russia, and there’s a separate line on the bill for what goes into sewers), or, if someone provides passive cooling service somewhere, you might pay for the heat you give away. Even if that’s energy.
We all have to do our part and stop using AI. It’s time to pop the bubble.
You think they’ll drop those prices when the AI pops?
come on Muricans, stop complaining and get a third job to pay for the slop machine until the bubble burst and the you have to pay for the bailout
stop complaining, remember “you are not there yet”
I ran three jobs for a couple of years. I ended up high enough up in my current job that they’d take offence to a second job. And the market is shit. I just want to move to a nice quiet country where your neighbors aren’t an actual liability with decent healthcare and work until I’m dead giving my kids a chance at living a happy life. Is that too much to ask?
This shit is a failure of local and state governments, and the people who elect them. Now that AI costs are hitting citizen pocket books, many municipalities are fighting back.
“All politics is local.”
In particular, its a failure of state utilities commissions, which have power over electric pricing.
Don’t know about your jurisdiction, but we vote those people in and out around here. Well…
We used to have a quasi-private/public power company. County commissioners voted us out of that. (Still our fault.) We do still have such a water setup. For now.
You’ll find that representative democracy is not all that representative.
I suspect that it’s always been the case that bigger customers are able to negotiate better prices. 1 car a year vs 1000 cars a year? 200 pounds of bread a year vs. 200 tons of bread?
Big customers lock in deals for a fixed price of Y for X years.
Smaller customers can also get similar deals but retail customers (normal people) rarely can lock prices for more than 1 year. Most pay spot prices.
Huh? I’ve shopped power companies a lot and I’ve never seen one that didn’t offer a 3 year fixed rate.
That kind of choice is quite unusual in the US.
Then your area is better served. Large companies typically sign 10-15 year deals so my point remains relevant. Residential customers get slightly worse pricing, but much shorter deals.
My city still owns the utilities and the council doubles as the utility board. They’ve been trying to privatize it, but it’s very contentious. Rightly so.
2024 and 2025 not included in their data.
How to pin someone else’s comment?
The star will save it so you can easily read it later. Click your profile name, and its the “saved” tab.
I got a bunch of effortposts from other lemminators saved for rereading.
Civilian bills increase while corporate discounts abound? Ya’ll need to fuck someone up with the 2A.
The idiots are convinced they’ll “be one of them someday”
Cue the “Fry, you arent rich!” Scene. Its very very real.
I have a friend that literally blames all problems in America on “The Poors” (his words) and when I try to tell him he IS the poors and is nowhere near rich, he doesn’t listen. Doesn’t believe workers should own the means of production because “when he owns HIS business, he wants to keep his money HE earned”
Brainwashed idiocy.
He rents, has a 20 year old car, is a bartender, and shops at Walmart exclusively. Also loves Grok.
America is doomed.
Indiana price increase in 2025 ~20% (I believe the new rates went into effect in November, and this does not include a base increase for having your house connected to the grid. I believe it was $10/mo increase making that % even larger.
God don’t I know it. Looking at 500 dollar a month electric bills and I’m possibly disconnecting my heat pump.
Where are you? That’s what I pay a year, granted I live in a shoebox.
Under the boot of Georgia power.
That’s crazy, up north I’m paying $130 monthly this winter and it’s actually cold here
Well I’m sure you’ll be heating your place with Venezula heavy sour by next week!
ok damnit, how many more servers do i need to install…
The lowest rate I can find here in Texas was triple what I was paying last year.
just sayin’ this is still so incredibly cheap… 8c/kwh… australian electricity prices are 24-43c/kwh (obv usd vs aud but the aussie $ isn’t that weak)
yeah we have a “supply charge” that’s ~$1/day on top of that base rate too, so roughly the same situation :(
we’ve got this crap because of privatisation so it’s not likely to change any time soon.
i hope your energy prices come down when energy things stabilise in europe!
It’s almost that time of the year when NY electric rates get hiked up and then get “frozen” to avoid further rate hikes while you conveniently get locked into that higher rate.
