Cloud gaming is effectively impossible due to little things like the speed of light. Sure, you could play Civilization via cloud but good fucking luck with competitive shooters.
That and the US being such a large market while having some of the worst internet in the developed world. Last I read only ¼ of the network is fiber
I play games over 4G happily. Not likely to work very well with game streaming. Especially if everyone else is. I did it during covid and it was ok but input lag was noticeable. SSH dwarf fortress and got into cdda was a better experience.
tbf: The US is huge as fuck. Most countries in the developed world could fit in Texas.
Yeah but the ones that have shit internet don’t have money to pay for the games anyways
It’s so stupid. It’s a solution looking for a problem.
I’m happy that Google Stadia died.
As with anything these techbro oligarchs comes up with. Unfortunately they do have the power to bend reality to their twisted wills.
What if everyone is on the cloud in the shooter?
Everyone can suffer together, yay
Wanna bring about the next French Revolution, worldwide? Cause that seems like a good way to do it!
Would be cool to play civ5 on a long term server.
I’m thinking something that emails you when its your turn too. Like playing chess over mail.
Isn’t that a thing in freeciv, that open source version of civilization?
There is a freeciv? How did i not know this
Yeah, there’s a web version of the game if you want to try it out, though it seems to be based on civilization 2 or 3 rather than 5 or 6.
Unciv is based on civ5 and has support for BNW from the mod list.
Civ over mail. Physical mail. Like those old mail chess games in the times before online chess (use https://lichess.org/ btw <3 ).
Move a scout, wait 3-5 days for the answer.
Interesting. I mean it more in the sense that civ is just a long game regardless, so some async maybe help.
I completed Nier Automata via GeForce Now just fine. Competitive shooters maybe not, but that’s just a subset of gaming anyway.
“Sure, you could play good games, but good luck playing garbage.”
Shooters aren’t garbage to people who like them. Different people prefer different games.
Secret ending: you keep playing the huge selection of games we already have, endlessly, forgetting games you played a while ago as you restart one you already forgot.
Edit: currently playing Warhammer 40k: Space Marine. So far it’s really fun. It’s as if you’re playing Doom as a more normal guy.
Real ending: your gpu dies in a year or so and you can no longer play anything ever.
Well damn, I hope it doesn’t.
Though, if it does, it would be under warranty, and thankfully I’m not in america so my warranty has a chance to actually be useful
Good ending for the gamers, bad ending for the devs…
If a dev is good they can make games worth buying with current hardware
Maybe this is a good time to visit the hundreds of never-installed games we have in our steam libraries.
Nooo! I won’t ruin my pristine collection by playing the games!
I have used an Xbox Gamepass trial a few times. Its a good deal honestly, especially if you play a variety of games.
Except its competing with essentially a 40+ year backlog of games I own that Inhave collected over my life. I have zero need for it.
And frankly, its biggest competition is something like HumbleBundle, where you can often get a pile of games per month to keep without the subscriotion.
Already did this last year and according to Steam data many others, too.
I suspect people will just keep their existing equipment running for as long as possible, and secondhand equipment will be worth almost as much as it was when new.
This won’t last forever.
I have an 8th gen i7 that’s still rocking it, also a 4070 which helps a lot too. Truth be told, I haven’t encountered a game I /want/ that requires sky high specs anymore.
If they keep pushing their cloud renting models it will last forever.
plays another 2,000 hours of dwarf fortress
Unironically, yes. Also,
ssh nethack@alt.org(or some other server) strongly recommended. My first ascension is still one of my most memorable gaming experiences.Plays another 666 hours of Doom 2 and all the custom wads. I particularly love Zone 300 and the DSDA Doom engine.
I mean, if all new gaming becomes cloud based shit I’m just going to be playing old games on emulators forever, or at least as long as my computer functions. And then when that fails, I’ll go back to analog enjoyments.
When I think about it, between emulators and various icon collections I have enough games to last me for the rest of my life. And that’s a feeling of being free, not trapped.
I also have to do a shout-out for analog enjoyments. Interacting with the natural world and exercising all of your senses are just straight-up good for you.
My steam library alone is enough to last me a decade probably
The first ending has already been happening.
The second ending keeps failing to happen. We’ve got graveyards full of Cloud Gaming markets. Google Stadia, OnLive, Walmart’s cloud service LiquidSky, and various smaller platforms like Vectordash and Bifrost.
stadia people got lucky as they got full refunds on everything after it shut down. what a deal tbh
Plus why would anyone use the expensive ram ssds and gpus to make a datacenter for videogames when they can hop onto the AI hype before it’s gone?
Unless you’re really chasing the big name games, you don’t need that high powered of a rig anymore. Stylized graphics are better than highly realistic, they hold up better and longer. The most intensive game I have bought is STALKER 2 and even then my rig is holding up fine.
Batman Lego just announced it was reducing ram recommendations to 16gb. Its a start
Reducing… to 16GB?
It’s over
a lego game?? when I played lego games circa 2011 AD I didn’t know what ram is
Yes, we just had to write the bytes that came up on screen into a book with a pencil, and then type in the contents of whichever page the computer asked for
Lego Star Wars The Complete Collection from 2009 has a minimum RAM requirement of 156MB. Yes, megabytes. 512MB if you’re using Vista (God help you)
Just thought I’d point that out.
3rd ending: Retro gaming makes a massive comeback.
If this happens, there’s a good chance companies like Nintendo and Sony will double down on trying to erase emulation as an option. Anyone developing emulators will be targeted (even moreso than they already are), and ROM sites will be taken down making it harder for the average person to find games. Now is a great time to build up an offline ROM collection ahead of this potentially happening in a few years, even if storage is currently expensive.
Sound advice!
Yeah, I would sooner game on a Pi or N150 mini PC than touch fucking cloud gaming. Decade old second hand laptop if necessary.
The other good ending: People learn to disassemble e-waste and reuse stuff instead of throwing them in the trash. Think of all the SSDs, HDDs, and RAM sticks that are thrown out in old laptops and gaming consoles. It would be great to bring more of a reuse, repair, Maguyver, culture back to electronics.
I mean, I’m happy to Maguyver my old laptop, I’m just not sure how much utility that last 8gb of ddr3 will deliver to my £5000 gaming rig
That’s fantastic for you that you have a £5000 gaming rig. Not all of us can afford that. A lot of us are still gaming or doing office work or running servers on DDR3 machines.
Unfortunately a lot of secondhand hardware is destroyed. Storage devices due to privacy, other components because corporations are unwilling to expend the man hours needed to sell off perfectly good hardware and instead choose an e-waste recycler they can write off as an expense.
It’s lucky that my dad’s supplier is sensible about these things, my family has I think 5 refurb Fujitsu laptops at €50 and €70 for the last one. Perfectly fine machines for study, browsing 3D-print terminals, vehicle diagnostics and such daily usage.
The plateau of processing power and modern energy efficiency means far older machines are viable users for years and years.
Wish that happened more often. All these crypto mines or whatever that use massive CPU or GPU power should dump them on the market, but I’ve never seen dumps of low-cost hardware.
The problem is that the crypto miners and AI servers run on purpose-built hardware now that can’t be repurposed for gaming.
Yeah, crypto switched to ASIC, but nonetheless there was no cheap hardware dump as they transitioned. And yeah, AI does use regular GPUs, but the consumer versions are used mainly for smaller farms.
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You’ll need right to repair first.
If those Devs could read low level they’d be very upset
We’re just going to be demaking games incrementally as we scrounge older and older hardware for our mad max gaming PCs until we’re playing a text adventure version of Minecraft on a green screen terminal.
> PUNCH TREE
Nethack forever.
Cloud gaming only happens if people break down and pay for it.
But seeing the usage rates of Gamepass, I’m not encouraged.
I think cloud gaming will be picked up because people are sheep already
We already normalized installing malware under the guise of anticheat. Anything goes past this point.
4th ending: The AI bubble bursts,AI companies goes bankrupt and RAM,SSD,Gpu and Consoles plummet to normal prices due to the companies selling their stuff.
5th ending: People move on to used/older PCS and Consoles.
6th Ending: People move on to older/simpler Open source/reverse engineered games that runs on Potato hardware.Unfortunately, you cannot buy gaming gpus, not because AI data centers are buying them, but because Nvidia would rather produce server GPUs than gaming GPUs. Same for memory. Once the AI bubble bursts, there still won’t be gaming GPUs to buy unless Nvidia and everyone else switch production, and you cannot put a datacenter GPU in a regular computer.
you cannot put a datacenter GPU in a regular computer.
Bet?
Right? People have been doing crazy shit to make non-ideal hardware work for them pretty much since computing was invented lol
Well, apparently an adapter card costs 80€ on AliExpress. But I’m not sure it will just work, maybe you need to get special drivers from Nvidia or something, and after you have the adapter and the datacenter GPU, you need to fashion your own cooling system for the GPU.
Yeah, also even if you coukd, it will still have the crypto problem. Do you really want a second hand GPU thst has been running full tilt for the laat year nonstop?
thats sucks soo much,i hope its only Nvidia and Crucial right?
It doesn’t matter if it’s only them. They are the suppliers. So even if, say, Asus would like to sell gaming GPUs at a normal price (which they wouldn’t, but let’s pretend) they cannot do that because there is no supply, and the little supply of consumer chips left is sold to those that sell GPU at pumped prices and therefor can give more money to the suppliers
then we are soo cooked 🙏
Real answer. Hoard now. Hope what you have lasts until the baking climate kills you.
When the COVID recession started, dairy farmers were seen dumping surplus milk rather than sell it at a lower price. I foresee a version of this where companies start destroying silicon to keep the supply low rather than let the prices drop to sane levels.
Older PCs and consoles are only cheap now because people buy newer stuff.
When the newer stuff becomes prohibitively expensive, old hardware and consoles will SKYROCKET as demand goes up, because nobody is MAKING more.
Hoard tech now. We’re not that far away from 2012 laptops going for $500.
Oh I see
4th ending doesn’t matter because after the AI bubble pops companies will do mass layoffs to reduce costs and nobody will have the income needed to buy components at normal price. By the time things start to stabilize there’ll be some new reason consumers are priced out of the hardware market.
Maybe your right
We need to turn this law into an electron app.
Google appropriating the concept to rename it after one of their C suits is the most Google shit ever.
Oberon… A2… rabbit hole alert i’m out!
