[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too
[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung
[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I’m a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?
all greens should be hung
That’s a big ol grenis
Thanks for correctly understanding the plight of orangites.
I’m socially greenist and fiscally orangite
Spoiler, orangites are also shit for the colorconomy.
The greenists would like to help the homeless and feed the needy after they block an industry and remove those dirty jobs, if only it didnt ruin the character of the neighborhood.
Greenists would open up newer green industries and create new infrastructure projects. With all the help being thrown around the might not even be people going hungry or ending up on the streets.
What’s an example of a green industry. The failed battery plant we threw billions at, or reselling Chinese coal produced solar panels?
Nuclear power, solar/wind/hydro/thermal? power, public transit projects, forest management and other ecological projects that can all create jobs.
Which battery project in particular are you saying is a failure? Can you provide a source for what makes it a failure?
I’ve heard recently that solar panels have been having breakthroughs that extend their useable-life.
I’m sure ramping up and subsidizing local production of solar panels could make it more eco-friendly. However, I’m personally interested in nuclear power, specifically getting thorium reactor projects going.
Is this outlined in a plan with feasibility at all, perhaps by a green party, it sounds like it would be an interesting read. Nuclear sounds good, and I know Brookfields Westinghouse does it already, I just dont understand how the other industry would outcompete China in manufacturing. They use coal to produce their solar and wind, and they have all the refining capacity. Which I’d also assume the material refining would need to be carbon free here to satisfy a green party, making us even less competitive in manufacturing green products.
It’s feasible by taxing corporations more, that’s the important part.
You don’t necessarily need to compete with China if your panels are made with more ethical and sustainable business practices. In theory you make a deal with your allies to buy yours because you went the extra mile to do it right. You’d want other goods in such a deal though if you want to take the pressure off of China because they are able to produce theirs via less sustainable practices.
On the grand scale, we’re pretty late in terms of manufacturing to compete with China unless we did something more drastic like convincing a lot of people to live and work in the US. We could be a bit protectionist about our fledgling industries if we want to scale manufacturing more, but that will bring some trading trade-offs with any countries that we don’t have a trade deal with.
Our economy is mostly service oriented because we did all this offshore manufacturing decades ago, but now workers have less access to manufacturing jobs although there is still room in the market for our manufacturing sector to grow.
This doesn’t hold, because it means you’re only accepting things if they favor yourself.
Exactly why libertarians deserve less respect than the fascists they enable.
And that kids is what “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” means.
this is any coorporation ever
“I’m an orange but want I green pussy”
Paradox of tolerance
Uh… no? This comic has absolutely nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance.
Care to explain why you think that?
This comic is about clowns (nominally) combining murderous hateful ideologies with ideologies concerned with improving people’s lives; no part of it is concerned with what happens if you tolerate hateful murderous ideologies.
I saw it as a swipe at centrism. The green-orange clown being the centrist under review.
And it is a paradox of tolerance issue: trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
Sure, but the comic never actually addresses that though; it’s more a swipe at the absurdity of the idea itself.
It doesn’t spell it out, it leaves it as an exercise for the reader. But it does tee it up for us!
*hanged
Oranges are unlikely to know the correct term.
Ideology/politics hedging. Off chance your main fails, got a fallback. Fuck that. Great comic.
so… ancaps?
Man it’s sometimes awkward being an orange, those fucking orangites give us all a bad name, but now a lot of greenists think I’m one of them. It sucks because I’m a greenist but seeing a lot of hate towards orange people because of those orangists hurts a lot.
I know that there’s a lot of history of orange people oppressing green people but I feel that greenists hating orange people is hypocritical and antithetical to the belief system, but any time anyone says it’s not cool everyone jumps in going “just like an orange, saying ‘that’s not like me!’”. That stuff is even being used by orangites as a recruitment tool for young oranges, saying “see? They hate you!”. We greenists need to stop it but it’s so cathartic to some green people who have felt so oppressed by the orangites that they refuse to.
Greenists have the right idea, and I’m not going to stop being one, but seeing the same hate from my own side makes it hard.
My dad is orange and my mother is green.
Yes, my father is orange and my mom is green. That means I get my solar panels from a forced labour camp.
The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, where the sign pretends to be a faithful copy, but it is a copy with no original. Signs and images claim to represent something real, but no representation is taking place and arbitrary images are merely suggested as things which they have no relationship to. Baudrillard calls this the “order of sorcery”, a regime of semantic algebra where all human meaning is conjured artificially to appear as a reference to the (increasingly) hermetic truth.[9]
This is literally Ireland. Did you not check before using green and orange as if it’s an abstract concept
Are you joking? I can never tell anymore
Wow. A strawman and a false dichotomy. Impressive. The only people that extremists hate more than the other side are the people who refuse to take one.
You in big poodoo now.
“With enemies you know where they stand, but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?” - Capt. Zapp Brannigan
Zapp accidentally made a good point.
