• FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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    They only like women in sports if they think they are fuckable

    They know the women’s hockey team are tougher than they could hope to be, and they hate what they fear

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    The men’s team was such a disappointment here. Not that I was hugely invested, but still. Have some respect for your fellow athletes, maybe?

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      Tbh, contact sports seem so much more disparate than non contact sports. Like, I’d expect Roger Federer to respect Steffi Graf (I’m old, okay?), but men’s hockey and rugby players seem less appreciative/respectful towards women’s hockey and rugby players.

      I suspect it’s a combination of the relatively greater importance of strength/mass and the heightened aggression involved

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        I frequently make this error of thinking people who are highly accomplished through perseverance have a good moral compass. It is truly a bad habit. Academia has also let me down.

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        Being part of a minority really highlights how horrible some sport’s cultures can be. If you are a gay or female fan of any sport you have to pick your social circles like navigating a minefield. Lest you end up in the homophobic “let’s lynch the gay guy” or the “gang rape the only woman here” fan-club.

        Sure, the vast majority of sport spaces are not that extreme, but it only takes one, and unfortunately they are a pretty much non-zero number. Sometimes just watching a game alone in you living room can expose you to casual homophobia and misogyny depending on the commenters.

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        There’s probably some truth to this. Men’s and women’s hockey are functionally separate sports.

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      They did and they do. This story got blown up into something that never existed, at least as far as the men go. Wont speak for Trump…

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          Coward isn’t the word. They are excited and proud about winning the gold medal, and they have every right to be. Other people making it political in one form or the other isn’t their problem.

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              It’s an invitation from the leader of the country they represented. It’s very normal and is happening all over the world right now in different countries who are celebrating their accomplishments during the winter Olympics. Unfortunately now after the fact, there are a lot of people trying to use them for various political ideologies.

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                They had Kash Patel, a polarizing, politically appointed baffoon, in the locker room celebrating with them. They drank and put good medals on him while he misused US property and funds to be there. THEY made it political.

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                  We don’t have to let people like Kash or Trump try to make it about themselves, and we don’t have to try to force something onto the athletes that they never intended or stood for. It’s disgraceful that we can’t simply celebrate with them, disgraceful that powerful politicians try to steal their glory, and disgraceful that certain leftists are too full of anger to allow themselves to enjoy life for even one second.

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    They’re also the “pro-lifers” who couldn’t actually give a shit about the life of a child once it’s born. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps kiddo, time to justify the existence that was forced upon you

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      It’s more about the entitlement. They feel entitled to children but can’t have them without going through another human being to make it so. As such, laws are made to give them control over said human beings.

      It’s like all those proposed save all the kids on the internet laws. The kids are not what it’s really about. Sure, you can dig up a rare human or two who really does want it to be about that, even to the point of belief, but the kids are never what it’s about.

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      They just want women to have children because they hate women and children are awful. Starving children in need are even more awful.

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    Go be a fly on the wall in a right wing chat. They hate women. They scare them. If the have them, they hate their wives. They hate their lives. They hate anything that forces critical thinking. It is almost comical.

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      They feel entitled to us and are simultaneously annoyed and angry that we profess to be human beings, which are actually entitled to the same legal rights.

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      There are a few different things you need to know to get this, so it’s hard to blame you.

      The first is that there is a prominent and very loud transphobic community of people who cry about “women’s sports”, where what they really mean is “trans women aren’t women and shouldn’t be allowed to be in women’s spaces”, but they couch it in notions of fairness in sport. You know it’s not legitimate concern because of how often they’ve gone after cis women who just happen to look a little too masculine for their misogynistic tastes.

      You also need to know that Donald Trump, the US president, has been closely tied to these loud transphobes.

      The third thing is that at this year’s Winter Olympics, the US teams won both the men’s and women’s ice hockey competition.

      Following that win, Donald Trump called the men’s team and invited them to meet him at the White House, after the State of the Union. He derisively joked with them:

      And we have to, I must tell you, we’re going to have to bring the women’s team, you do know that. I do believe I probably would be impeached [if the women’s team was not invited].

      We know this because one of the men recorded the call and posted the video online. Many of the men were heard laughing in response to Trump’s sexist joke. One or two of the men posted after-the-fact that the men should not have reacted like that. Whether it’s sincere or face-saving, I’ll leave up to the reader.

      So we’ve got Trump, a member of the “protect women’s sports” movement, caught vocally deriding successful women athletes. Almost like the “protect women’s sports” movement is actually just an “exclude trans women from society” movement.

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      I’m guessing they are referring to the people pushing to make women’s sports exclusive to cis women. If they cared about women in sports, they would be angry about the president belittling the accomplishments of an Olympic gold medal team.

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    You don’t understand: it’s important that only dainty trad women play women’s sports because otherwise my favorite manly men (🥵) might be threatened. My whole identity is the patriarchy plz don’t take this from me…

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    This is such low hanging fruit.

    If you don’t understand that by now, no messaging will get to you.

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    When it violates one’s ideology to value WOMEN as equally-valid human-lives, then … why would they violate their tribe’s culture, & therefore their-own tribal-validity??

    It isn’t women’s SPORTS they don’t value,

    it is WOMEN they don’t value as equal-validity people.

    Sports is just a subcategory of their non-valuing, not the basis of it.

    ( same as the condescension of the middle-class & upper-middle-class left contempt their inferiors, automatically, implacably: tribal-prejudice’s tribal-prejudice, in all cases. It isn’t something that only-some-tribes do, on only-1-side of the political-spectrum. )

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