I’d sincerely recommend everyone to read his manifesto and think about it a little bit.

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    Also, we’re still wondering if the McSnitch is getting their reward money. The last I heard they were thinking about withholding it.

    And that would be such a great propaganda point to show that US law enforcement doesn’t regard the rest of us as full persons / citizens and will cheat us out of our due even when we cooperate. So yeah, no-one sees nothing. Ever. You’re a collaborator if you do.

    Zero Witnesses.

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        I think the local department promised $10K and FBI promised $25K. Even if I don’t like Judas very much, the pharisees not giving him his silver shows the institution was not honorable and deserves what they feared the Christians might do.

        That got ecclesiastic.

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    Are we fucking with sofas again?

    This is one of my dystopian thriller elements: If the police can’t find the culprit of a high-profile crime, then they find someone, plant an orgy of evidence and railroad him into capital punishment or life in a supermax. Just to show that the long arm of the law always wins.

    Doing a for-real investigation and just disappearing / killing off any likely suspects is optional, depending on how vengeful the elites feel about it.

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      That would be a terrible idea. If they identified him using illegal means, any evidence found as a result would be inadmissible. It’s fruit of the poisoned tree.

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        Found him via illegal means, then got a stooge to “report him” and planted evidence to box him in

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        It doesn’t matter. One of the world’s rulers was gunned down so they are bringing the book down on him. Anything goes.

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        Still more plausible than the cops saying “well fuck it he’s gone” and finding a lookalike to take the fall like a day after the shooting.

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    I still don’t think he’s the same guy who shot the CEO, it’s clearly for me a different person in the photos…

    However, at this point this changes nothing of what’s going to happen, anyone caught for this would be facing the same charges. Let’s hope the jury feels as we all do and lets him walk

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    Here’s what I might do if I couldn’t catch a murderer but wanted to make an example anyway, and I had access to AI art that was very good at getting approximately accurate images of people…

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    A minor correction, 3D printed guns are fairly reliable nowadays when made in a way such that all pressure bearing parts are made with metal/factory made regular parts

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      Yeah was gonna comment this. There are totally functional 9mm machine pistols with everything made from printed and standard hardware store parts.

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          Yeah chiming in here to agree, 3D printed guns are now nearly identical in performance to other polymer based guns (like Glocks for instance).

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              All guns degrade after being fired, but modern production firearms are just plastic wrapped around metal tubes. 3D printed guns have always worked on the same principle but it takes time to develop them to the same safety standards.

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              Not if they’re made correctly, with good materials like nylon-cf, correct print settings, and good post processing. It’s a process that takes a day or two and requires a small amount knowledge and skill.

              A handgun made like that will function for thousands of rounds.

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      I think it was also clarified that the gun was a Glock with 3d printed lower, which is basically a normal Glock with different plastic.

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          That functionally is a ghost gun in the US because only the lower is registered. Everything else is off the shelf, theoretically untraceable bits.

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          The lower / reciever / frame is the part of a semi auto handgun that has the serial number, as this is the part that is legally considered ‘the firearm’.

          If you 3d print the lower, you can just buy every other part, often without a background check, in many instances without any ID at all, and assemble the gun around your 3d printed lower.

          What makes something a ghost gun is that it does not have a serial number that can be tied back to a purchaser, who would have had to be ID’d / NICS checked or w/e.

          What makes it a ghost gun is not that it is entirely made of plastic that wouldn’t show up on a xray or something, its that it is untraceable to a point of origin if you have the gun and nothing else to go on.

          The other way people do this is by destroying the etched in serial number.

          I haven’t actually heard it confirmed that Luigi only had 3d printed the lower, though for a normal person, that would probably be the easiest way to assemble a ghost gun.

          But, he’s an engineering graduate.

          Its possible he did ‘3d print’ many other components by using metal machining tools.

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              Well, you said ghost gun.

              A homemade gun can be, but is not necessarily a ghost gun.

              You can purchase a serial stamped, legal, traceable lower reciever/frame, and then purchase all the rest of the components of a gun, and assemble the whole gun yourself.

              This is fairly common amongst experienced gun enthusiasts who prefer specific brands or designs for various parts, and like to do their own custom builds.

              The result is a totally legal, non ghost, homemade gun.

              Long Explanation of all the metal FGC9 parts an average person cannot make at home, period, or metal parts you can make at home but would need to have a CNC machine and significant machine shop experience.

              The FGC 9 that you linked an article about… yes, it does feature more 3d printed parts which are typically made of metal… but it still requires you to buy many various metal parts.

              https://www.hickoryhillarms.com/post/building-the-fgc-9

              So even with this thing, here’s all the parts that are not 3d printed plastic, that you would be very difficult even for an engineering graduate to create on their own unless they had access to their own industial machining tool manufactory:

              Fire Control / Trigger Mechanism; Springs Disconnector Pin

              Hammer Hammer Spring

              Grip Screw Grip Screw Lock Washer

              Feed Ramp Screw

              Mag Catch Spring

              Primary Buffer Spring Secondary Buffer Spring

              Brace Screw

              Ejector Screw

              Alan Key / Wrench

              Firing Pin Retaining Screw Firing Pin Retaining Screw Nut

              Reciever Screw

              Firing Pin Firing Pin Screw

              … Phew. Ok, so, sure these parts are not that difficult to purchase, why bother listing them all?

              Because you said you don’t need to be an engineering graduate to make the metal parts of a gun.

              That’s not true for all the above parts.

              You’d need to have an entire manufactory to make these things out of the material required, at the quality required.

              The following parts actually could be CNC’d by someone with moderate experience with a CNC machine, and a CNC machine at home, but they’re not made of 3d printed plastic:

              Bolt

              Barrel (Non Threaded, thus significantly innacurate at range)

              Now, if you are even more experienced with machining, you may be able to produce a threaded barrel…

              … But at that point we are talking about an experienced machinist with pretty uncommon equipment, which itself can be traced.

              Either way, you can’t make the bolt or barrel out of plastic for the FGC 9, and while yes, a novice machinist could learn how to machine one at home, the vast majority of people who build FGC 9s purchase the bolt and barrel from someone who runs a small, often psuedo legal business of making them.

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      You just 3d print the lower reciever, most modern handguns use injection molded plastic for this part, and a good 3d printer (and operator) can get a pretty decent result.

      But its not just the ‘pressure bearing’ parts that cannot easily be 3d printed.

      Almost everything else still has to be either purchased or very, very carefully assembled by hand with skill and machining tools.

      Here’s a Glock 40:

      Its basically a pretty bad idea (impossible with springs) to try to replace any of the metal parts with 3d printed plastic, many more parts than the barrel and slide are made of metal, and many of those parts could easily fail, even after mag worth of ammo or less, and completely brick the weapon.

      People who make or sell 3d printed weapons still have to include a parts kit (or shopping list) with the stuff you can’t 3d print… with the exception of weapons that fire basically .22 or smaller cartidges, and those ones that actually are all 3d printed plastic are not going to survive very many shots.

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    Luigi is innocent. A witness across the street stated they didn’t hear gunshots at the time.

    Eric’s head just did that.

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    Don’t forget his confession said how much he respects the feds and the hard work they do

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      “I love the taste of glowie boot and will fellate some leather to completion when you come knocking, but first, crimes”

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        what else are you gonna scrawl hastily? luigi was just a regular upperclassman but with actual gall. opportunity doesn’t wait for you to compose a manifesto

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    More likely he had no real semblance of getting away with it and just happened to escape due to the incompetence of the NYPD.

    People who typically go through these plans are not the most mentally stable, he was probably expecting to be caught so he wrote his manifesto beforehand and thought he’d try to see how far he could get.

    Most of all, he probably did not expect the authorities fail to ID him, which is also why he made it for so long.

    Even the Mcdonalds employee might have reported him for other reasons like loitering or general sketchiness and not because they thought he was the shooter.

    Still I think it’s funny how he inadvertently proved the ease of crime with pretty basic rules. Any sort of organized crime, especially one off jobs could probably do it even more discretely and get away with it.

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      Except that manifesto sounds fake AF bootlicking cops in the first sentence? he more than likely dead man switched the one on pepmangione dot com slash manifesto

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        Have you read up on him at all? Luigi came from a wealthy heavily Republican family and was just starting to question right-wing ideology. Having respect for the feds is absolutely in line with the person described in this article.

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          You mean the people who believe the official conspiracy story, sold to us by the Cheney gang? You know, the one that literally defies the laws of physics?

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            Its no use, he probably thinks wtc building number seven collapsed demolition style because the shockwave from the planes hitting the twin towers caused a ripple effect and a butferfly flapped its wings in Indonesia so there was definitely no fowl play on behalf of our extremely trustworthy societal institutions “. 🥴😴🤡

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    my man Luigi’s taking the fall for the real hero, is there nothing this handsome , suffering soul won’t do for good?

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    potential explanations:

    it’s him and he genuinely wasn’t running (as his confession suggests), whilst also being chased by the police surveillance state, so even if he was running it would take meticulous planning to truly avoid the cops.

    it’s him and he planned to get caught and the confession, the inconsistencies etc. are intended to make prosecuting him “without a doubt” incredibly difficult. You can bet money on his lawyer knowing a lot of these inconsistencies too, and exploiting them in court.

    it’s him but he’s trying to obscure his motives etc. for [reason]. (unlikely)

    it isn’t him but a lookalike who’s being framed for it because of [conspiracy theory]. (unlikely)

    it isn’t him but a lookalike who framed themselves for [reason]. (unlikely)

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      It could also be not be him, and some deal was made with a lookalike to close the case quickly, or to avoid giving the adjuster a platform to tell his story

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        I mean honestly who can fuckin tell unless he has his own bodycam footage of the shooting just laying around

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      it isn’t him but a lookalike who’s being framed for it because of [conspiracy theory]. (unlikely)

      Because the cops can’t find the real killer but they have to present someone. Saying “we can’t find him” is not an option for them right now. They must present a killer to maintain image. If a killer is not presented then this shot will be heard round the world as the starting gun for a class war. There is no situation in which NCPD will be allowed to not present a killer for swift justice.

      Therefore, if they really actually can’t find the guy because he covered his tracks well… Well, they received an anonymous tip from a McDonald’s about a guy that kind of looks like their guy. Better go bag him so they’ve got something to show for this big manhunt that can appease the overlords.

      The reaction of Luigi himself so far is the only thing that gives me pause about this, because he doesn’t really seem to be denying any of it was him. But I also don’t think he’s actually had a chance to speak in court, or rather for his lawyer to speak for him, and is maybe making the intelligent move called “shutting the fuck up”. We will have to see what gets said in court later. But if he does own up to it, then it means either he definitely is actually The Adjuster or else he’s intentionally choosing to take the fall for whoever is. I find the second option unlikely but not impossible, but it’s too conspiracy-theory for me to back it seriously, and if that really is what he’s doing then I ain’t no snitch anyway. Just write Luigi down in the history books and call it a day.

      But at the end of the day the list of evidence the cops claim to have found on him is one of the fishiest police stories I’ve ever read, and that’s saying something because I’m an American that tracks the news regularly.

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        The first thing he shouted from the car taking him to the courthouse fit the idea that this was all planted:

        it’s completely unjust! It’s an insult to the intelligence of the American people!"

        To me that reads: this is dishonest and unfair because it wasn’t me it’s an insult to USians intelligence because I don’t even look like him. (My inferences in italics.)

        It was reported on Dec 10 that he said the money was planted on him.

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    to be clear on the “3d printed guns explode after 3 shots” thing.

    It depends. If it’s 100% 3d printed parts, including bolt/slide and barrel, then yah, a few shots is the most you’d get out of it.

    But most “3d printed guns” are using off the shelf barrels and bolts/slides, parts that are usually not registered and tracked. The parts that are register and tracked are usually the parts that hold trigger assemblies and grips, things that can be made of plastic since they’re not directly handling the stress of firing.

    So the fact that the gun (the suspect was arrested with) is intact doesn’t mean it was never used. It also doesn’t mean it was definitely the gun used.

    The situation still seems weird, but, we’ll see what the different parties have to say on the matter when they go to trial.