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      Is female derogatory? I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

      Edit: I work at a large engineering and manufacturing company where some of our products need to take into consideration the difference between male and female anatomy. I just hear “male” and “female” systems discussed on a weekly basis so I think I might sometimes refer to men and women as “male” and “female” outside of work without giving it a second thought.

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        Using scientific terminology in colloquial speech is weird and creepy in most contexts. Calling kids “juveniles” and women “females” carries certain connotations, most of them bad.

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        Using female as a noun (rather than as an adjective, such as in the phrase “female firefighter”, or any phrase of the format “female $noun”) is generally overly clinical and dehumanizing. Some people do it out of habit due to their profession-- usually researchers or soldiers-- but they usually say “males and females”, which while still weird isn’t the worst.

        The guys who say “men and females” are the ones you need to watch out for.

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        It’s not inherently derogatory, but it does hold a connotation if you refer to women as females particularly in contexts where you wouldn’t/don’t refer to men as males.

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        Yes, using scientific terminology can be derogatory. But in this case, acting like the opposite sex is a species on its own, classifying them as animals and slurring all women as hoes gave it away for me.

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        If you are calling a woman “a female”, and aren’t a cop discussing a victim or a doctor writing a chart, then yes, it’s fucking derogatory.

        We’re not Ferengi.

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          Yep. A lot of incels seemingly are unfamiliar with scientific classification and try to use it in casual statements.

          Like, they sound real stupid trying to redirect it to be about science then saying phrases like “boobs and tits”.

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        I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

        Scientifc classification by sex. Referring to others by their biological sex in a social context is weird and creepy. Even if you believe sex and gender are the same thing, it’s still weird to call people by their sex. “Hello, male human. Want to ingest some fried pieces of cow flesh tonight?”

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        I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

        It’s a classification of sex like biological characteristics, like chromosomes, hormones, and reproductive organs.  Are you asking about that?

        Gender is a social construct. Just like race. Where you can be a Black person who is British. Or a Filipino American.

        Edit: downvoters, you know you can literally open up a scientific book and verify for yourself, right? Downvotes don’t make a thing false.

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    No, they want to be called LA class nuclear powered attack submarine.

    We’re in shit posting after all.

    Happy Xmas, ya filthy animal!

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    In most contexts, you’d just say…”people”.

    Or, if you’re actually trying to make a demographic-wide statement, like how women aren’t good at video games, you’d just say:

    “IGNORE ME, I AN A SEXIST MORON.”

    Basically, the meme isn’t much meant for the word choice, it’s how often incels have statements to make on half the population.

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    “of the feminine species”

    Uh, do you want to explain to this guy what a species is, or do I have to?

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        Ladies wasn’t used in the Original Post.


        When playing a RPG of some sort, sometimes they give you the ability to reallocate all your talent points in a different way. Such as switching from melee focused to something magic oriented like a wizard or a witch. This is called a Respec, short for Re-specialization.


        Respec sounds very similar to Respect. The Original Post is about respecting women.

        I appreciate your interest in my comment, hope you have a nice day. Take care.

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    clearly ingenue is the correct choice

    or for a potential fun comment thread: is dude gendered? I grew up in a place where a lot of people called everyone dude regardless of gender. That said, when I’ve brought this up, some people get real heated about it.

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      Dude can be gendered

      and some people will think you’re just looking for an excuse to call men people who aren’t, if you say that dude is not gendered to you

      we’re on the internet after all, and no one knows the real intentions of the people behind the screen

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        You know I’ve said “dude” all my life and I still use it all the time in regards to everyone. If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person, but now that I really think about it I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term in a derogatory way. Like ever. For me it’s always been a happy/inclusive word for addressing friends. My only worry for now is that saying it shows my age.

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          Idgaf if dude can be gendered

          good for you, some people really don’t want to be called that.
          part of respecting someone’s identity is respecting the terms which they want and don’t want to be called by.
          getting them wrong doesn’t make you an asshole, getting them wrong and not caring does.

          People need to get over themselves

          in this context this is identical to Conservative “the new generation is too sensitive!!!” drivel.

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          I use “my guy” as a humorous precursor to the rest of my sentence regardless of whom I’m speaking to.

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          Are you okay having the tables flipped and someone calling you “sis”?

          Using male language as the default may not bother you and you may have no ill intent with it, but it does have a history tied to it. A history where women were seen as less than and didn’t have equal rights. Western society still uses male language slang regardless of gender (hey guys, dude, bro, bruh) and it all stems from a history of a patriarchal society. Every time we say, “hey guys” to refer to a mixed-gender group, we perpetuate patriarchy, whether we intended to or not.

          Legally and overall culturally, women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce and abortion law).

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            women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce

            Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.

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              Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.

              Found the incel. Please donate my prize money to any organization that supports passing the ERA.

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      To me this feels like you could say “Guys, <insert sentence directed at a group>”, as a general term to catch the attention of/refer to a mixed genre group as a whole. Anyone getting upset that you’re using “Guys” in that context to refer to both men and women is just looking for an excuse