For anybody who thinks that animals in their natural environment are all happy…yeah imagine living for decades without any sort of dental care. Evolution is about surviving, not thriving.
Human mandible shrank a bit the last millenia, probably thanks to the rise of agricolture and easily chewable food, but that left less space for teeth to grow properly
“Intelligent Design”
Fucking LOL
I think a lot of folks assume that evolution means “all the crappy stuff whittled out over time, and only the good stuff remains” when in fact I think evolution aims for “eh, they reproduced. Good enough”
Creationist love to bring up all the wonderful things in the world. They tend not to bring up things like the recurrent laryngeal nerve or bot flies.
In fact, I think they’re confused as to why science would even bring these up. If evolution is a religion (as they often claim), why would that religion point to something so weird or ugly? The answer is that evolution just is, and it does weird and ugly things sometimes. Our job is to study the weird and ugly things it makes while also finding a better moral system than mere evolution.
Evolution meant to tell you to get out of the gene pool.
Mine were growing directly sideways. I’m an evolutionary failure.
I guess I should buy a lottery ticket, then, because my wisdom teeth came in pretty much straight. The only problem I ever have is getting anything back there for cleaning.
So were mine. They had to shatter most of them to get them out.
Passed out from the pain the first time I tried to eat post operation, lol
You had no pain killers?
With the pain killers! Found out that I’m very sensitive pain that day.
Oh wow, that sucks. I still have trauma’s from my lift bottom wisdom tooth (and my crackling jaw sometimes reminds me of it), but I don’t really remembering such pain. They numbed half my mouth during the procedure, so I didn’t feel anything (apart from the hammering and drilling moving my entire head). It definitely sucked when I got home, but the pain wasn’t too bad
Yea I got dry sockets after, even after being really careful. It was a nightmare. I remember lying on the floor on the carpet drooling trying to eat mac n cheese.
Mine ARE growing directly sideways 🫠 at least the bottom ones
Well, see, your mistake is brushing your teeth and living past 30. If your back molars were properly rotten enough to gracefully pop out when the wisdoms grew in, and then you died before that one rotted and you couldn’t chew anymore, you wouldn’t have any problems.
Literally.
Ancient humans had surprisingly good teeth. They weren’t soaked in acid and sugar.
Not all. Pre industrial humans where I live ate a lot of slow roasted cactus. After 2 days buried with hot stones the cactus hearts were caramelized. I’ve tasted it prepared in the traditional manner and it’s just syrup in a leaf. Delicious, and I have no doubt it was great energy for people that had to walk miles every day.
Anyone that lived past 30 had their teeth rot right out of their head, according to the archiological record.
Depends on where they were and what they were eating. Humans are really amazing in that we can eat almost anything that’s not a straight up tree, and we’ve existed across the planet in just about every ecological niche. I remember reading somewhere they could estimate the age of desert burial/skeleton remains on how worn the teeth are due to the sand getting in the food. But I’m sure no processed sugar is pretty beneficial tho
Still may have lost a few from some bucking animal you were chasing after. Or your cousin chucking a rock at the *bird" he said he saw behind you.
Until we got agriculture.
It’s because humans in the wild would lose teeth by that time and need more.
Evolutionarily, it only matters that you reproduce.
I can‘t even do that. The reason: Skill issue
So that’s evolution at work.
Based
… and that your children survive to reproduce
Otherwise we’d have no incentive to care for our kids.
I get it, but man I can’t imagine being in the mood to reproduce while nursing an infected tooth.
There’s a solution to this. Reproduce before it becomes an issue.
This is what gets me about the sentiment of “humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without toothpaste/sunscreen/antibiotics/vaccines/etc and we were just fine!”
My dude, we were most definitely not fine. A lot of people died painful and preventable deaths, many of them children, and we’re around today because existing that way was just good enough to keep us going as a species.
“They were just fine!” You mean that the 40-60% of people who lived past 15 were just fine until about 50-70?
Just because people still lived a long time doesn’t mean they had a good time living.
Pre-dentistry, a bunch of your teeth would have fallen out before your wisdom teeth came in. There would have been space for the wisdom teeth so they wouldn’t need to come in sideways.
We used to have larger mouths, they’ve been shrinking as we evolved
they’ve been shrinking as we
evolvedchanged our dietNo genetic changes (evolution) happened. If as children we ate only very tough meat and lots of chewy vegetables - no bread or rice or potato softness - our same genetics would result in much larger adult jaws.
That’s right, my bad
How are we supposed to be taken seriously in glactic politics if we can’t chomp aliens in a few thousand years.
Don’t worry, humans are space orcs
I haven’t had my wisdom teeth extracted because my doctor said my mouth was big enough. The only real issue is brushing them so I have to clench my mouth almost shut to even reach them while brushing.
I never got all the fun drugs though.
Are you sure about that? We lost so many teeth after the industrialisation of sugar production (machines and slavery) but I’m not sure how bad it was before then.
Not cleaning teeth is pretty bad for teeth.
Teeth used to get cleaned by means of chewing harder food regularly, and they needed less cleaning to start with due to a lot less sugar in those foods though
So I searched it up. Food that was more abrasive, no refined carbs, more fibrous, more meat, less grain, more tannins. And ancient toothbrushes from frayed twigs, which also contained natural antimicrobials!
Thanks for prompting this educational exchange!
Also, for example in medieval times, they did clean teeth with herbs and stuff.
Ancient Babylon and Egyptians used frayed twig, according to my search!
I had to get my wisdoms out before all the baby teeth came out so pre-dentistry I’d have been fucked.
This reads like dentistry from the 1800s. You would’ve been a great dentist there. “I need to pull these teeth to make space for what’s to come”.
Can still hear the sound of them breaking it to get it out
“You really shouldn’t be awake for this” - the orthodontist crushing my sideways wisdom teeth with pliers so he can rip the shards out individually.
We don’t do general anesthesia for most things dental related here in NL. But after hearing the sound bounce around in my head I wish we did.
Fuck me, my ex-wife told me she wasn’t put to sleep but thank god I was.
Then again I had 8 teeth broken off my jaw because so maybe I was a special case …
All four of my wisdom teeth were impacted, and it took around six hours for them to be removed. Thankfully, I was unconscious during the procedure.
Oh this was a fast one, was back in the waiting room within 15m, 10 of which was waiting for the localised pain killer to kick in before starting.
Ah yes how I remember them chiseling my tooth out with a hammer. The surgeon I had was a bad ass.
that’s me atm. luckily they’ve stopped moving and I don’t feel any pain but it’s a breeding ground of the unfunny kind
my wisdom teeth surgery was the best sleep ive ever had
I gained some semblance of consciousness and heard crunching before I drifted back out.
Your jaw got smaller and you stopped loosing teeth so fast. It’s your own fault, really.
Born without wisdom teeth…
Not sure if that makes me more evolved or less lol
I went to the dentist and he was looking at me all surprised and he said, you’re jaw is so primitive, all your wisdom came through without issues.
A few years later I had to have an emergency removal because they decayed too much as I didn’t brush that far back
Dude, more. 200% more as my wife and I sit her and suffer tonight. She’s getting it dealt with next month, mine rotting out while I wait to even get a luxury bone appointment.
You are the clear evolutionary winner.
Me: does nothing
Evolution: fuck you
Oh yes, the Geological Faultocalized inside my mouth. I had four of them.
