• simple@lemm.ee
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    16 days ago

    Two. My experience with mechanical pencils is that they’re often unreliable and a waste of time. I hate having to reload my pencil, I hate when it breaks if you accidentally make the tip longer than it should be, I hate when you accidentally put one more in the pencil and it gets clogged, I hate having to carry refills all the time, I hate buying an expensive pencil and worrying about losing it (as opposed to just buying a dozen regular pencils for backup)…

    Just hand over the regular pencil and a decent sharpener.

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      If you feel they are unreliable, it may just be that you aren’t using good ones. I use 3 on a regular basis (for Japanese) and never have issues with feeding or lead breaking; I also only have to refill it every few weeks.

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        I’ve had the same mechanical pencil for ten years. It’s comfortable, reliable, easy to reload, but if I had to choose one for the rest of my life, I’d still go with the traditional wood/graphite pencil. It’s cheap, it’s everywhere, it’s durable, and not a great loss if you lose it.

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        I got one because I was intrigued by its lead rotation, but I found that it really didn’t rotate the lead enough while I wrote. I kept having to rotate the barrel manually to keep a thin line like I do for every other mechanical pencil, and then would get annoyed every time the clip came around to brush my hand. I’ve been wondering if I’m doing something wrong, or if Japanese just uses more shorter strokes. Do you also like it when writing English?

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          I only use my kuru toga when writing in Japanese, I normally just use a pen for english. Japanese does have significantly more strokes.

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        Same, an actual good quality, properly made and assembled mechanical pencil will just keep going and going, and if you treat it well, you never need to replace it.

        Kinda like a decent quality safety razor.

        All you gotta do is treat it right and replace the razors/graphite, nets out to saving money after probably a month or two of decent use.

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      16 days ago

      On the topic of sharpeners, those battery powered pressure sharpeners are satisfying as fuck. They’re shit and invariably snap the nib, but they’re the sharpening equivalent of shoving a Q-tip in your ear and having a good rake about.

      Or if you’re all about the procrastination, spending a few minutes every lesson at the classroom sharpener like this one brings back the nostalgia:

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      Plus a good ol Dixon Ticonderoga can write on stuff other than paper. About the only time I use a pencil is when doing carpentry and mechanical ones just snap.

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      Since I switched to using 0.9 mm, I almost never break a lead unless I drop it onto a hard floor; it even holds up to some aggressive tapping. Consequently, I hardly ever have to refill. I also never worry about the point snapping or stabbing when tossed loose into a bag, or keeping a sharpener on hand.

      Just my #2 cents.

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      16 days ago

      Unreliable? I have two Staedtler Mars Micro pens I bought a good 20 years ago and they both work perfectly.

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      Back at my school in the 90’s you just bought a 10 pack of the cheap black Bic mechanical pencils for like $3 (pic #5) and you were set for the year if you didn’t lose too many. They never really broke and you didn’t have to refill them if you didn’t want to. They also never clogged and if you weren’t an idiot you didn’t try to use too much lead length to where it would break off.

      They were simple and easy and always sharp.

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      Reminds me of when I had to write a physics exam in university and it required a pencil for the Scantron cards. I basically never carried pencils so when my pencil tip broke I had to grab my utility knife out of my backpack and sharpen it to continue writing my exam.

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      Got in trouble in school once for using one of those way back in the day. Dad was a construction supervisor so they were frequently lying around.

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      My fidgeting while I was in middle school led me to break every kind of mechanical pencil I used, except for 5. I forced myself to only use those in high school and college so I would always have a reliable pencil.

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      I have a ton of these in the garage for woodworking. Screw the carpenters pencils, these are way better.

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      The issue is the plastic internal mechanisms will wear out eventually. The Pentels have a metal core which has never worn out from my usage. I always end up losing the pencils before they break. The same can’t be said for the BICs.

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      I have 3 of them, one of which is metal and cost me more than I’d like for a pencil but holy hell is it nice to write with.

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      What is it like to hold? I have a few nice mechanical pencils but wouldn’t mind to get something a bit less expensive for when I travel to the office (my everyday is a YOL but I don’t like taking it out… ADHD, outside, and nice things do not mix well).

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      16 days ago

      made them plastic

      #1 is all metal. Retractable tip. Bought one after Adam Savage reviewed them.

      #2 is definitely the best long-term option, but it’s really nice not to have to constantly sharpen while you’re doing some intricate work.

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      15 days ago

      Yeah but with mechanical pencils you can buy one and have it for years, only just buying the occasional pack of leads… Saves the trees ¯_(ツ)_/¯