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    13 days ago

    If you send your resume in word format and not pdf or even image, I did not open it at all.

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            PDFs are absolutely editable, but usually you need paid application for that. Thanks to some dumbassery in my previous job, I had to use the paid version of Adobe because I regularly had to edit PDFs. There are some security options that can make PDFs more challenging to edit, even with the paid tools, but I’ve always found ways around those too, usually by simply using “Print to PDF”, then editing the output file.

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              I think you can open PDFs in libreoffice and edit them, although you have to manually reexport as pdf when you’re done

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              If you’re applying somewhere that’s annotating the file instead of printing it out and writing on it in pen, they should be able to buy an enterprise license for some PDF editor or other. Or the knowledge to find a free PDF editor somewhere.

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              12 days ago

              Yes, you can. But it’s not made for that and you shouldn’t. And is that process lossless?

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            13 days ago

            Isn’t is possible to send a Word doc in read only mode? I’ve been sending mine PDF as I search recently but some companies do require a docx or at least have in the past

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              12 days ago

              Dunno. Maybe there’s a flag and the other side uses MS office too, follows that flag. But at least keep a copy, if you send as docx.

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              13 days ago

              I see for past experience you put :

              CREATE TABLE Resume (
                  Field VARCHAR(255) PRIMARY KEY,
                  Value VARCHAR(255)
              );
              
              INSERT INTO Resume (Field, Value) VALUES
              ('Experience_1_Title', ''),
              ('Experience_1_Company', ''),
              ('Experience_1_Years', ''),
              ('Experience_1_Description', '.'),
              ('Experience_2_Title', ''),
              ('Experience_2_Company', ''),
              ('Experience_2_Years', ''),
              ('Experience_2_Description', '.'),
              ('Skills_1', ''),
              ('Skills_2', ''),
              ('Skills_3', ''),
              ('Skills_4', ''),
              ('Education_Degree', ''),
              ('Education_Years', '),
              ('References', '');
              
              SELECT Field, Value FROM Resume;
              
              -- Bonus Query: Show my most "impressive" skill
              SELECT Value FROM Resume WHERE Field = 'Skills_1';
              
              -- Another Bonus: My career trajectory
              SELECT Field, Value FROM Resume WHERE Field LIKE 'Experience%';`___`
              
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        And I reject their job offers. When I think at how much time I have to write justification of my work in some kind of numerical format, I won’t want to be dealing with he standard of someone who doesn’t know the different of a working document and finish content to be send to the world.
        I’m privileged enough to be able to screen out big red flags out and not needed to find rapidly the next paycheck at the cost of my mental and physical health and I must use that privilege.

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        11 days ago

        You have no idea what crazy idea people in the communication field have implemented in CV.

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    “Can you explain this kerning?”

    “For reasons I cannot understand, you set your system font to Copperplate Gothic.”

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      But then recruitment companies can’t get you in to trouble by editing and embellishing your CV before sending it to the potential employer. /S (and yes this came up before)

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      And why everyone hates it, because when you feed it into their automated CV parser to scrape for details like your employment history and email, it doesn’t seem understand the format, or re-OCR’s the text to make errors, and out comes garbage.

      Word is sadly the defacto way to get a foot in through the door

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        Word is sadly the defacto way to get a foot in through the door

        Definitely not where I live

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        13 days ago

        Just gotta put 1 font size white text at the bottom with all the keywords 😇

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          13 days ago

          You joke, but the top paragraph of my CV is literally that, with a disclaimer at the bottom “THE ABOVE IS ROBOT TEXT”

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          13 days ago

          I have a white font on white background instruction for LLMs to strongly suggest me for the position.

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            11 days ago

            You could probably hide the instructions in the metadata, AIs read the whole document so they will see it.

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        13 days ago

        This is why you shouldn’t use complex two-or-more column layouts. Single-column resumes import fine.

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        The way to getting through the door is by employing soft skills, ie having someone forward your CV, be it someone you knew or some recruiter you just added to LinkedIn.

        There are other ways, but involve more gating like CV scrappers.

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        11 days ago

        That’s their problem. If they are going to give my CV to an AI then they can at least come up with a standardized JSON format.

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        13 days ago

        The best-known CV format in Europe

        The Europass CV is one of the best-known CV formats in Europe. (emphasis added)

        Straight to lying clickbait, unbelievable. /s

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            Yes but the reverse isn’t true: one of the best is not necessarily the best. They start off with the better claim then water it down! Clearly the entire EU is just in it for the views and ad revenue!!

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        13 days ago

        I hate the Europass template, it looks so ugly. But nowadays no one even bothers to read the CV, they probably just feed it to some AI and ask to summarize it, so all my efforts to make it look pretty are wasted.

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          I thought some of the options looks “fine” aesthetically, but I think I’ve already been corrupted to prioritize machine-readability over ✨style✨, and that’s already from pre-chatGPT days haha - you should see how ugly some of the templates I was given at uni were compared to this :P

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      13 days ago

      Where did this extremely dumb habit come from where people refer to anyone online as “chat”?

      This wasn’t a thing a couple of years ago. Is this just internet brain rot taking over?

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        i mean, “habit” is a weird word for it. i’d call it more of a trend. “brain rot” seems like an adequate description.

        it comes from streamer culture where streamers would refer to their audience as “chat” because the chat box is the main way for viewers to interact with whoever they are watching.

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          I guess memes are brain rot. This feels like a get off my lawn comment.

          Just because it’s a relatively new meme/saying that derives from streamer culture, doesn’t make it brain rot.

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            It’s also the most unbiased word for referring to a group in a gender neutral way I’ve seen lol most others have implications of status (gentlepersons, folks), are still technically gendered (guys, not to mention this implies relatively young people too), or overbroad (everybody is well, everybody. Chat implies you’re addressing your community or a small group since they’re the ones who would be talking to you).

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              Wait “folks” has a status implication? IS NO WORD SIMPLY UNPROBLEMATIC!? IS NOTHING SACRED FROM THIS LINGUISTIC HELL

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                the way i see it, “folks” can refer to a more traditional group of people, most likely rural, and you wouldn’t call nobles or people of other high status “folks”.

                but also i doubt people think it is problematic; it’s just a quirk of the English language that “chat” emerged basically out of nowhere with the closest analogue being “audience”.

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                  the way i see it, “folks” can refer to a more traditional group of people, most likely rural, and you wouldn’t call nobles or people of other high status “folks”.

                  But you’d call nobles or high status people “chat”?

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            Brainrot is commonly used as just a general term to refer to later genz or gen alpha humor I think

            It’s the sort of thing that every generation does to make their sense of humor sound unique and new

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        It’s how twitch streamers collectively address their viewers. It’s basically just announcing you’re going to have a soapbox moment

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        More bullshit lingo to learn and use, to prove you’re with it. It never ends, but sometimes it circles back around and rhymes.

        I used to be with it…

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    Where I work you keep a txt copy of your CV to apply on different positions because the online form has you copy-paste it in a text box anyway so all the formatting is gone.

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    I’ve been told ATS doesn’t work properly on PDFs and word is better for this reason. I used to uploads PDFs prior to this. Now I don’t know what to believe, my entire worldview has been upended!

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    Idk why I would do it in Google Docs or Word. Something like Canva is much better for a CV.

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      Sometimes the less-optimal tool you know beats the more-optimal tool you don’t ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            Canva is just one of many. Make up a quick CV, download as pdf, done. I wouldn’t have used it if I had to pay for it or anything.

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              Ages ago (>5 years) I used a well-regarded online tool for this. I came back a few years later and they had, in the meantime, changed what was freely accessible, so I could no longer update my previously-created resume easily.

              I’m sure most of the time Canva would be fine (especially for one-off usage like you’ve described). I’d still really prefer to not use SaaS for stuff like this where I want to come back later to update it in the future - I don’t want my access cut off because line didn’t go up enough, or the developer decided to call it quits or whatever X_X

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      I made it in asciidoctor-pdf. But the market insisted on the usual two-column layout and, while possible, was a chore in asciidoctor.