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Nobody has done more to disprove the “Rich people are smarter than everyone else” idea.
Remember a decade ago when he was being lauded as our time’s Einstein?
… Hahahahahahaha
Yeah by his own PR team, mostly, but it was a pretty easy fascade to see through when you actually listened to the man speak. Still don’t forgive Dan Harmon for letting him shit on R&M with the eLoN tUsK bullshit. Or Star Trek Discovery for that matter, which happened much later after he had already shown his true face to the world. I know Harmon got paid because he’s talked about it, but I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.
See also: Iron Man 2
The one where Tony blew him off and made him look a fool?
I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.
From what I have heard, that part of the line was not even scripted. The actor ad libbed it in hopes that it might lead to him being gifted a free Tesla vehicle.
EDIT: There was also the completely unrelated reference in a later episode, in which a character mentioned having gone to Musk Junior High School. That may have been a paid reference.
Damn, that’s somehow so much worse!
Forgot about the Musk jr high 🤦🤦🤦
My head canon is that in universe Musk Jr. High isn’t a real school and it’s just an edgy joke… the space version of saying you went to the “Adolf Hitler School for Tolerance and Friendship”
You say it for a laugh when you’re 14 or acting like it on Space 4Chan
Ah, the Terri Schiavo Academy. I love it.
Yeah I realized it as soon as I heard him on Joe Rogan. I was like “oh, this guy is actually not a super genius at all.”
Now I think he’s kind of a moron actually.
I knew it was a grift from the start because people who are kind and wise don’t spend millions purely to make sure I know how kind and wise they are.
A friend of mine has head canoned that the guy from Star Trek was joking about being from Elon Musk University and that it’s the old “Adolf Hitler School for Friendship and Tolerance” gag but in space.
I’m just gonna go with that because fuck it’s the equivalent of listing Deepak Chopra as one of the greatest philosophers of the 21st century in your hard sci-fi setting.
There was also an episode of Young Sheldon where Sheldon had sent equations for reusable rockets to NASA, and at the end of the episode it showed Elon buying the equations from NASA.
He was also in South Park, and Rick & Morty. He had a great PR team considering what they were working with behind the scenes. They dressed him up real nice.
Then he fired them, because he didn’t like having to wear anything in public. Metaphorically-speaking.
And I am proud to have called bullshit on it from day one.
Whoever leads us to the promised land isn’t going to have a for profit LLC
Well done. I’m like most people in that I didn’t spot it until he started talking about a subject I knew about. The first Tesla Roadster looked amazing1, and then the hyperloop sounded like a cool idea2, and then oh wait what’s he saying about software development now?
1 because its body was made by Lotus
2 except it doesn’t work
It wasn’t anything specific, it’s just… the idea of this guy being the real life Tony Stark didn’t pass the smell test. Not because he didn’t seem bright, but because I couldn’t believe ANYONE lived up to the hype that Elon had.
That and… well… the idea of the Private Corporation coming to save the day and guide us into a Utopia sounded way too much like a Libertarian Fantasy.
Yeah, he’s like LLMs in that regard. Sounds plausible until it’s a subject you don’t have much knowledge of, then suddenly turns into a dribbling twat when it’s one you do understand.
Then you realise he was an idiot all along.
I still cringe at him being mentioned in Star Trek Discovery…
Luckily that was evil mirror universe Lorca that said it, so it fits.
Which episode was this
Season 1 Episode 4
Ohmygod. Just saw it. Ew.
Common Disco L.
I’ve heard Tony Stark but not Einstein. I’d be insulted for Einstein.
I genuinely think he’s had some sort of cognitive decline.
He went from being merely wealthy to the richest man in the world, and nearly everyone thinking he’s a genius, to being hated by nearly everyone and losing money fast.
Think is, he never was a genius - actually quite far off from it
He is just a spoiled boy having luck with gambling the money he got
Looks more like too much Ketamine to me.
And lots of drugs & yes-men.
The drugs are definitely part of what happened.
Generally the truly smartest people (the ones who actually figure out spaceflight, electric vehicles, satellite internet) aren’t the wealthiest. Sure many of them end up pretty wealthy due to stock options, high salaries, companies competing for them and the like. But often at the end of the day they just retire into their wealth and spend their days traveling or living in their huge houses or whatever.
But the CEOs, the politicians, the investors, the self-labelled “Founders,” those approaching or in the 1%; For those it’s not about making something, doing their jobs, changing the world, etc. It’s about winning. They need to feel better than others. And for most of them that feeling never goes away. They rarely retire, and often even when they do they still pull strings from the background (see Bill Gates). Some psychopathic part of their brain makes it so their most important and purest drive is to constantly get to that next target, that next exponential stock valuation, that next acquisition, that next news broadcast they can jerk off to about how they beat someone else in a campaign or about how line go up or whatever.
So when these people are in the middle of their career, they’re relatively unnoticeable by most. They’re “founding” companies by employing those smarter than them with money they have. They’re selling said companies, moving on. They’re making shady deals, laundering money, because they are smart enough to beat the system and the system is against them because they’re so smart.
But for those that amass enough wealth like Elon, the drive never goes away. But what do you do after you’re the richest person in the world? Well, try to become the most powerful person in the world. But you can’t just run for office, the ketamine has told you that it’s faster to latch onto the recent rapid rise in fascism so you join up with Trump. Who gives a shit what kind of person he is, especially because eventually you’ll beat him. He’s a stepping stone for now, a boost pad to get you speaking with those who can get you real power, and more money because it’s never enough.
But thinking that everything in the world works like a startup, and if you just hire more college grads, crack the whip, take stimulants to stay up to ship the product in a completely inconceivable world (government and social policy) to what you’re used to (technology and product development), it all falls apart. And then when you’ve always had success with the investors siding with you because “line go up,” you suddenly don’t have success because “line don’t go up” in the white house and Trump is getting pressure to find something to cover up giving 2 trillion dollars to the rich and there’s no quick fix.
So you do more ketamine, lash out. You always knew trump was a pedo, a garbage human, but it didn’t matter because he was a stepping stone, so now, probably earlier than you’d like, you pull out your cards of putting him down in the hopes that you can get that power that you need because the money doesn’t matter now, feeling that you beat him is what’s most important.
yeah that much power and money certainly does something to your brain, the guy can’t think straight anymore
Also the dude apparently does a lot of drugs.
So he’s a hero after all?
the one we didn’t need but deserve
Luigi?
Seriously? I thought Edison at best, but Einstein? What did this shithead discover, exactly?
Edit: whoops wrong comment to reply.
He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?
And Trump is now threatening to cancel those government contracts. So he’s blown everything he’s gained (and then some) from his little fling with Trump.
That’s what trump does. He threatens. Then in the majority of times he gets distracted or backs down. Those contracts aren’t cancelled until they are cancelled.
Yeah he’s all TACO when doing things that’ll break the economy. But killing SpaceX won’t break the economy and he’s looking for something he can do that’ll make him appear strong. I wouldn’t bet either way on this, they’re both nutjobs.
I don’t know. Trump despises California to begin with and he has threatened to cut off federal funding to the state.
Even if we assume those contracts get canceled, unless they force him to destroy that data (which probably isn’t possible at this point) and reopen all those investigations then that’s not really true, is it?
TACO
He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?
But he also inflicted a lot of long-term damage upon himself and his businesses. So the question in the post still stands.
Musk learned the hard way why other billionaires don’t get directly involved in politics, and buy politicians instead. That way they get what they want, but let the politicians take the heat for pushing through the billionaires agendas.
The problem for Musk is that his ego wouldn’t allow him to sit quietly on the sidelines calling the shots. He had to prove how smart he was, and how he was the only one who could fix the government. Now, he’s pissed off almost everyone, has lost various large foreign contracts for his companies, drove sales of Tesla into the ground, and is watching Trump undo the “brilliant” governmental cost cutting that he did.
And, his ego still won’t let it go, as now he’s suggested he’ll start his own political party. You just know the other billionaires are looking at him and going “What a dumbass!”
And still some dumb Americans will think:
“Billionnaires got a lot of wealth, so they must know what they’re doing. Let them fix it.”
When the actual answer is:
“Billionnaires never once worked as much as we did. They got born with a fuckton of money. Let them eat cake.”
Even if he loses hundreds of billions of dollars he’s still richer than like 99% of individual people worldwide will ever be.
I will save the schadenfreude for when he pays for the deaths of men, women, and children who were denied care from the USAID funds being cut.
He won’t though because although what he did is immoral it wasn’t illegal. After all the president of the United States authorised these actions they must be legal.
Financially he’s going to suffer but there’s nothing in law that can be done to him.
We’ve both seen how quickly the legislative landscape can change, let’s not write this loss off just yet.
I had to look it up. Pajeet is a racial slur in SE Asia, apparently.
Leave it to 4chan to import all the slurs from around the world
Perhaps even less surprising, this particular racial slur apparently came from 4chan.
I am seeing the slur in Instagram as well.
By came from I mean it originated from there.
Is it actually a slur, or just a stereotypical sounding name? Because if its the second isn’t it just like Barry eating his 3rd pie and chips of the afternoon with a pint of wife beater?
It’s both a stereotypical sounding “name” and a slur in the way 4chan uses it. They don’t mean a specific type of Indian person, they mean an Indian person. It’s not used like how some Brits use ‘Barry’ to mean a foolish person or Americans use ‘Karen’ to mean an entitled person.
I’m pretty sure it isn’t even actually a real name, it just sounds like it should be to racists.
Yeah probably this. There’s other examples, like calling Soviet citizens “Ivan” in a derogatory way.
You mean S Asia? India isn’t exactly east…
Sometimes Internet racism really confuses me. So Indians are in this case bad because they are… particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace? Just generally not hateful people? I don’t get it.
Not the point.
Do I even want to know what a pajeet is?
You probably don’t.
I looked it up after not hearing the term before.
Tap for spoiler
It’s a slur for South Asians. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pajeet
Sadly I assumed correctly
It’s actually a name. Pajeet is a genuine Hindu name. It’s a pejorative, in the same way “Paddy” is both an Irish name and used as a slur for Irish people.
According to the link above, and the Hindu American Foundation, it’s not a real name and is exclusively pejorative.
Ya gonna have to tell that to the people I have met with this name, sorry guys your name is not real!
Tell ‘em Wikipedia and their five cited sources sent ya!
From the wiki:
The implication makes fun of a typical Indian male’s name.
Doesn’t say it’s not a real name though. Neither does the screen cap of the tweet.
And what does it say right above that?
An invented term for a South Asian person.
And from CubitOom’s link:
An invented Indian-sounding given name
And from the sources cited on Wikipedia:
a derogatory made-up Indian name originating on 4chan in 2015
First seen on 4Chan, The term “pajeet” is an ethnic slur, coined as a derisive imitation of Indian names
It is possible that there exist a few Indians with the name Pajeet, but it is definitely not a common name here. I’ve never met a Pajeet.
So is the implication that all Indians think Mush is a hero?
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Racist word towards Indians
The thing is, this turd burgler could lose millions a day for the rest of his life and still retire more well-off than just about anybody. When’s the last time a truly filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?
If his wealth were a US treasury bond, he’d have to spend at least $50,000,000 every DAY in order to not still keep getting richer.
Take a moment to think about how difficult it is to spend $50,000,000. If I gave you 24 hours to do it using Brewster’s Millions rules, you’d struggle.
There is no good reason for billionaires to exist.
filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?
there’s not much that i like about the american healthcare system but the idea of fElon eventually ending up bankrupt because of that fucking black eye really had me thinking “maybe there’s something to this”
Mark Bankstone could help him do it
Somehow nobody has mentioned the drugs? And obvious signs of mental illness? Obviously high functioning, but that does not make the decisions less nuts.
Has anybody seen the Johnny Harris video on musk? It was all fun and games until the drugs came out to play.
Peter Thiel also does a shit ton of drugs and you don’t see him spiralling this hard
I’m convinced that Thiel is spared this fate solely by his homosexuality and shame in it. He understands the value of keeping some things close to the chest and the risks of being the face of anything. He just came to it in a sad and fucked up way.
Comparatively, Musk thinks himself a glorious hero who should be the face of everything.
Thiel rarely puts himself in any spotlight unless he’s either curated it, or drugged up, freaked out, and kinda losing it.
Did you read the interview with his former fixer / event manager / third? Very interesting.
No I haven’t. Could you link it?
Oh, yeah that’s really hard to find. There’s a bit in this Intercept articles about Jeff Thomas’s death but I’m pretty sure it was a much longer article I read.
Death of Peter Thiel Romantic Partner Investigated as Suicide - https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/
Oh jeez that’s not great
Just say “retard” if you’re gonna say it. Lazily censoring it seems worse, because implications.
Right? I’m tired of the euphemism treadmill telling me what I can and can’t say. Especially if we are coming up with childish phrases like “unalived”
I used to call myself a <transgender slur> until woke cispeople got on my case about it.
Ahh… I guess it’s better than the old internet where the N-Word was your fast pass to being seen as funny and cool?
I run into that shit with cripple.
Fuck them, I’m the one on the fucking cane, I call myself what the fuck I want, and I will gladly fight about it.
But, yeah, the edge lords will fuck things up
This has always felt very doublespeak-y to me. Sort of like a control mechanism.
I don’t know anyone “unhoused” who has ever been offended at the word “homeless”. It just seems silly to me.
If I were the conspiratorial type, I’d say it’s about police language
Or go the TikTok route and say “unsmarted” like a goddamn tool.
i assumed it was “rasterization”
I have a decent amount of patients that label could apply to and I don’t like seeing it used at all. Literally just a few weeks ago I was consoling a patient who was angrily crying because they perceived someone had used it to refer to them. I’m unsure if it was reality based; they do hallucinate and I didn’t personally witness it but its far from impossible and they were absolutely distraught. Using it pejoratively AND censoring it means you knew it was fucked up and did it anyway.
Next stop: Build an underwater city.
Hey, you need a taxi?
I wish more billionaires would get on those… and visit WW1 era military shipwrecks…
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The reason why that is a terrible idea is because during WW1, many naval artillery shells used picric acid as an explosive filler, picric acid reacts readily with metals to form highly sensitive picrate salts that are very sensitive to detonation upon being disturbed. Meaning messing with them even slightly has a significant risk of a massive underwater explosion happening. WW1 era military shipwrecks are strictly off limits to divers for that very reason.
I’ll donate my Playstation controllers for his scouting sub.
Would you kindly…?
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Generational wealth leads to people who are both extremely rich and extremely stupid.
And Elon Musk is the best example of that in the history of mankind.
He already has fuck you money so he doesn’t give any fucks.
Are you serious? He wants people to think he’s cool SO bad it’s genuinely so pathetic lol. All the other billionaires you could say that. But Elon is so desperate for people to think he’s this funny cool based guy it’s hilarious
That is partly true, but also he’s a strong narcissist. They make up their own stories. They’ll play up the feud to take eyes off of other bad shit.
Don’t think for a second he lost or he’s gone or it’s all over for him. He doesn’t see it that way.
He already got access to all the data he paid for.
I swear I have seen a comment very similar to this, not word for word, but pretty much similar structure and words and points describing Kanye.
Kanye is also rich, crazy, and a nazi
For now, he does have that yes, but his wealth is for a significant portion a house of cards built on the value of tesla stock. If the value of that stock falls far enough, lenders who gave him loans with tesla stock as collateral could margin call him, essentially asking for more collateral. That could make him the poorest person in the world quite quickly, i.e. billions in debt.
While you’re absolutely correct, even if Musk lost 99.7% percent of his wealth he would still be a billionaire (depending on whose net worth number you choose to use). I wouldn’t hold out seeing him in a bread line or starting a gofundme.
The real question is whether the collapse of his house of cards will lead to a 99.7% loss of wealth or >100% loss. He won’t be a billionaire anymore if it’s the latter.
Yeah, he probably will. I know I’d be surprised if he didn’t have money squirreled away somewhere.
I’d also be surprised if no one goes after him for trying to run away from debts. If we know anything, it’s that most laws only apply when they benefit the rich, and he’ll be making a lot of rich people angry if it turns out he did have extra money squirreled away.
He could declare bankruptcy and be a billionaire again tomorrow.
And I don’t say this out of any kind of admiration for him; just there’s still enough moneyed rubes out there that he could set up a new company making plumbuses and it would hit unicorn status by the end of the day.
His very low self esteem shows otherwise.
It’s 5D Narcissism :D
Yes, this. It may be drugs, it may be mental disorder, but what it CERTAINLY is is narcissism and megalomania.
Just like every Trump voter who never thought it would happen to THEM when tornado relief was denied or they were deported or their farm was on the brink of financial collapse thanks to tariffs, Musk seems to have thought he was safe? That HE could control Trump? I knew getting these two megalomaniacs together like this would go badly, I’m just impressed it lasted so long honestly.
*conservatives can’t afford his cars
Had to correct it
The are no liberal billionaires and very few liberal millionaires
I have known rich conservatives. I used to work with one who had a Ford F-150 Raptor.
Having an expensive vehicle doesn’t mean you can afford it. You can probably make the payments, but you can only really afford the vehicle if you’re keeping up with other financial goals.
My coworker has two luxury cars, and he’s in debt up to his eyeballs. He makes the same as me, his SO also works (mine doesn’t), and he’s always complaining about not having enough money, while we’re doing just fine.
