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      Political theater. “Won’t somebody think of the children?” is an easy win for politicians.

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      Politically speaking, it’s easy money. You pander to the conservatives with blocking propositions, get votes.

      *Who is going to champion the flip side?!"

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        Me. Porn is fine. Teach your children how to handle it. Teach them that it’s not realistic and some of it is straight-up dangerous. Put a filter on your internet if you’re too scared to talk to your kids about uncomfortable topics.

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          Man it’s porn, not guns. Children should not be near it!

          Oh wait this is France

          Anyway, I agree with you. We’re talking about regular ol garden variety porn. Everyone will probably see it at some point. Parents can limit what their kids see until the kids become smart enough to bypass filters. At which point they can probably handle seeing pennis n vagene.

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        I feel like reddit and YouTube are completely different leagues when it comes to porn… Porn is the only reason I haven’t deleted my last reddit account. YT doesn’t even really have real porn…

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          YT doesn’t even really have real porn

          Indeed, but there’s still things to find if you’re a young scared kiddo, and I’d say it’s pretty soft so it’s okay

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    I have to admit, of all the nations on earth, I never expected this sort of puritanical theatrical authoritarianism out of the french.

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      They’ve been trying to block it for many years now.

      France has been going downhill for quite some time. Many proposals for chat control and tracking… even recently, we got a law proposal that aimed at banning E2EE 😵

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          When it’s not about protecting kids, it’s about fighting drugs

          They always have a “good” reason to remove our freedom, because apparently security seems much more important, and it seems like it’s the only way to do it. Lol.

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          Authoritarians have embraced internet culture somehow.

          I’m curious how they got Gen Z so curtailed.

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        Politicians are always trying to ban encryption in every country. I remember it happening constantly in the 90s. And it happens because politicians don’t understand that you can’t ban math

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      They should actually take to the streets (again). Not joking. What is this nanny-state BS?

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      To clarify, the french didn’t ban pornhub, it’s the company behind pornhub who decided to deny it’s access in France to protest a law proposal that is currently getting examined in parliament

      Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

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        Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

        This is how young boys learn to computer. It won’t do shit to stop anything. It’s a waste of time.

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          How do you know it’s just boys? Seems an odd assumption, considering the nature of omission of information with this.

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            Because the majority of porn watchers are male at about a 4:1 ratio. They aren’t saying it was exclusively boys either, likely just what made sense from their perspective at the time.

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        The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

        Wait aren’t they proposing the same thing in the US as well? It’s a fairly standard thing of right-wing governments to just demand the impossible with no understanding about it could possibly be achieved.

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          They understand just how hard it would be to comply. And that’s the point. Make it hard enough to meet the requirements to not make worth a business’ while to comply. And the politicians can say “We didn’t ban PornHub. They blocked you from access.”

          It’s a common tool both the left and right use to control behaviors. Governments around the world do this all the time.

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          For now it’s not nation wide, it’s just up to states if they want to implement an age verification law like that. They want to make it so that in order to prove your identity/age you need to do something like upload a copy of your ID/Drivers License that will be linked with your “research” accounts.

          They say it’s to “save the children” and shit like that but the end goal really is to basically shame people who enjoy researching things because Jesus says it’s bad.

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          Right, because we’ve never checked ID for things like tobacco and alcohol before?

          These porn companies should work on efficient cost effective ways to verify adults instead of using politics and social media to increase profits. I’m sure you are aware profit is higher if children are allowed on their websites.

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            It’s very different handing my ID to a store clerk, who barely looks at it because my birth year starts with 19, from uploading a photo of that ID to a sketchy service who now has a permanent documentation of precisely who I am and what sort of freaky shit I’m into.

            Sure, the tracking services already know this, but they don’t also have a photo of my ID that I willingly gave to them to prove it’s me.

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              Are you embarrassed you look at porn? There’s plenty of ways to manage without an internet connection. Go grab a compilation torrent.

              Even if all these sites went verification tonight, you’d still be able to privately jerk off to whatever it is you want to hide so bad.

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                  Given that I torrent without a VPN and it had nothing on there, and it also got my location wrong by over 500km, I dont think I’m too worried.

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                  I’m not opposed to vpns. I simply don’t want porn accessible to children easily. Simple barriers to entry like an ID or credit card have worked before and surely will again once porn streaming sites give up fighting this regulation and start working to follow it.

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            How about we put some responsibility on parents to keep their kids away from potentially harmful Internet content, instead of relying on the state to do it for us in large swathes, affecting literally anyone who goes to those sites, legally or not? Surely you’re more on board with responsible parenting than everyone having to hand over their legal identification to a fucking porn site.

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              Its on both sides of the relationship, parent and porn provider. Same as with alcohol and tobacco, if you don’t have parents doing their part, those kids end up with that stuff anyways.

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                Brick and mortar shops aren’t comparable to websites, and I don’t know why you keep trying to compare them. The places that sell alcohol and tobacco aren’t asking me to upload a digital version of my legal identification to some cloud-backed database. They’re just manually checking a date and a picture. Most places I buy from don’t even make me physically hand over my ID, I can just show it to them without it ever leaving my possession.

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                  You’ve never had your I’d scanned at a store before? How do you think all that works?

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            Yes because I’m not buying whisky online am I’m going to a physical store where I can give them my physical ID and they can look at my physical face. Unless I’m wearing a very convincing prosthetic there isn’t very much I can do to hide my identity.

            Online is harder, just because I have uploaded an ID doesn’t mean it’s mine. What are they going to do, demand a video as well, because it’s not as if video generation hasn’t already gotten to the point where it’s perfectly capable of faking that kind of thing.

            I can see you haven’t thought about this at all. You should run for office.

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        The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

        Isn’t that already the case on a lot of the internet?

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          I think this law requires you to upload a photo of your ID and says that it’s the website’s fault if underage people use it and they face a hefty fine. It’s a lot more than the standard “click to pinky promise that you’re definitely 18” because PornHub already has that.

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      The percentages of respondents in surveys on infidelity answering “not a moral issue” from France are a bit of a cultural difference (from Australian perspective, anyway)

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    How about you just parent your children? But it’s not about the children, that’s just always the convenient excuse

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    Why do the French even need Pornhub when their basic movies are very porn adjacent?

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      I blame the French for 120 days of Sodom burning my eyeballs, and I just skimmed the Wikipedia article. One of them chose to print that instead of burning the notes. Anyways, why is the hub being blocked in France?

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        French politicians passed a law that requires porn sites collect pii (identity) in order to access the site. PornHub won’t violate the privacy and security of their users, so they simply block the locales that pass such laws.

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        “Children should be reading good old stories like 120 days of Sodom, not this Pornhub filth” - probably some French conservative somewhere.

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          The Marquis de Sade was an elected official btw. He would’ve jacked off to shock sites. Says quite a bit about some of the French that it wasn’t burned. It should’ve been. No historical or entertainment value, just pure degeneracy.

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        Protest on them trying to enact age consent laws.

        By showing the message rather than Pornhub’s vast library of adult content, Aylo “is communicating directly with the French people to tell them how dangerous, how potentially privacy-infringing, and how ineffective the French law is”, Solomon Friedman of Aylo’s owner, Ethical Capital Partners, told reporters in a video call on Tuesday.

        Paris has this year gradually introduced requirements for all adult websites to have users confirm their age with details like a credit card or ID document.

        In a bid to preserve privacy, operators must offer a third-party “double-blind” option that would keep the platforms themselves from seeing users’ identifying information.

        Edit - the sauce - Pornhub, YouPorn owner suspends access to French users over age verification law

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    Peak French stupidity, this isn’t about protecting kids - it’s about building surveillance infrastructure. Back in 2024, critics already called this the foundation for a “Great Firewall of France”. Once you have the legal framework to block websites and force ISPs to implement monitoring, mission creep is inevitable.

    The technical approach is laughably naive. They’re essentially creating a centralized system that could easily become a database of citizen sexual preferences. Even with their “double anonymity,” you’re still creating digital fingerprints and metadata trails.

    Most importantly, it won’t work. Kids will just use VPNs - the same way adults are already doing. You’re not protecting anyone; you’re just pushing everyone toward circumvention tools while normalizing government control over what adults can access online.

    It’s perfectly French because it combines maximum bureaucratic complexity with zero practical benefit, all while creating new opportunities for state overreach. Classic.

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        Pervertube. Thisvid. Motherless.

        I just realized indicating these websites might have revealed a little too much about the kinds of porn I like to watch. ☹️

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          Whoa. I haven’t heard of Pervertube. I have specific tastes involving a dirty mattress with no sheet or at least one overflowing ashtray.

          NEW PORN!!!1!!!1!!!

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          Which one pops the “you are leaving the trans section to go the straight section, are you sure?”

          I really don’t think I should be called out just because I like straight porn.

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            Spankbang alone blows PornHub out of the water in my opinion. So does Xvideos. I guess it depends what you’re into? I don’t like all of the incest shit on PornHub.

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              More of just a softcore/strip kinda guy. I find porn corny and offputting so I’m usually just browsing /s/, fapello, or the endless tumblr blogs for every fetish imaginable. (suggestions welcome).

              gallery sites, are my thing, I guess, redtube is another good one with a lot of solo stuff. Motherless, though I hate going there because some of that content is a little on the teen-obsessed side, and kinda creepy, but I do like the way the site is designed.

              <_< are we having this discussion right now?

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              I see… and agree. In my world PornHub seems to be the most famous but I rarely visit.

              Seeing some “unexplored” options with all the suggestions here hehehe

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          xvideos is a PH affiliate i think, if you noticed ph or these adjacent sites will have links to each other that have similar sanitationized like PH did.

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        Get Alldebrid, yes it’s paid but it’s cheap if you are just getting a vpn for porn you might as well get Alldebrid and you can use it to stream movies on stremio as well , then install the Alldebrid browser extension. Go to Adultdb.io click one of the links, scan the page with the extension. It will find the rapdigator link even if you don’t solve the captcha. Then click on the link in the extension and then it takes you to the Alldebrid page where you can download or stream the movie at basically the best quality. Also Alldebrid works with torrents so you can add torrents from xxxclub.to and usually it’s already cached and you can watch it immediately.

        Also great for VR just load the torrents into Alldebrid, then go to the Alldebrid media folder page on your headset with DeoVR or HereSphereVR then you can stream VR porn directly, no need to download.

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        As a «produced porn» enjoyer…

        Usenet Stashdb Local stash instance

        Treat porn like you do tv shows :p

        I don’t really care for home video stuff

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          Home video stuff is arguably the best!

          Often filmed with nothing but desire to share the joy. Vivid, real, as opposed to the carefully curated studio plastic, or OF crap where people have it for the money, and with all the ethical and other concerns about it.

          But I know there are always two sides to look at the issue. Studio production is obviously more perfected, and that’s what many like

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      Which is weird since I often don’t hear much spoken dialogue in most porn films other than fake moans and and orgasms. Also my focus tends to be elsewhere…

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          Stop with the classy French French! I want vulgar Canadian French.

          “Ahh tabernack! T’es une vrai p’tite pute! T’fesse va ê’re plein de ma cum comme u’poutine!”

          “Mais fuck you! Plus vite MAINTENANT… OUAI YEAH! COMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE ÇÇÇÇÇAAAAA!!! Fuck me t’as une monstre cock!”

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            “tres bien” is “very good”

            “si vous plait” is like “please”

            “plus fort” is like “more strength”

            I’ve never studied or learned French, but you can pick up some of this stuff from “throwaway” French in other context and the etymology shared with other languages.

            So, basically just the stock U.S. porn phrase translated to French.

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                Agreed. I tend toward more literal translations for instruction/explanation – it made things stick better for me when learning Spanish. But, yes, in context “harder” is a definitely a more useful translation.

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            France uses a hybrid healthcare system like Australia, doesn’t it? Disabling your own populace in a country with public healthcare seems like a bit of a own goal tbh.

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              ofc their goal is not to pay more, it’s to silence and harm people for standing up against the government, or for having some political opinions

              The other reason is that some police units in charge of handling demonstrations like brutality, feeling powerful and harming people. They rarely get convicted because they can’t be identified, and even if they are, they’re pretty much only fired and don’t have any prison sentence

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    pornhub is so sanitized now, im guessing its mostly because of the OF videos. most of them are on sites that arnt affiliated with PH.

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    I mean for context with the TikTok comparison using a VPN didn’t get you around the TikTok ban unless you also made an entirely new account.