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Wealthy consultants: I know you’ve tried running as republicans-lite. We suggest that you move further to the right.
DNC: brilliant
Don’t forget, absolute, unthinking support of Israel under all circumstances. Even thinking about why you support Israel antisemitic, and this issue is more important than any domestic issue. Literally losing to Republicans is preferable to budging 1mm on this .
checking under the hood of the DNC
Curious, all I’m seeing is more consultants.
even worse, they’re all conservative consultants.
Nervous Lincoln Project noises
Seriously, what kind of absolute schlubs turn to Ted Cruz’s campaign manager to win liberal votes?
…how shall we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory…
Democrats: … But why male voters?
Mamdani: you serious? I just told you that a moment ago!
Supplement Mamdani with a Trump-like folk and see it for yourself: Dems do not support socialism, nothing new here
We need a good middle ground candidate. One that can get support from people like Dick Cheney and George W Bush. That’ll get us the young voters.
I really am curious to see what war criminal the DNC trots out next to try and tempt us with. Kissinger didn’t work, Cheney didn’t work, who’s next? They going to have Netanyahu on stage next? Oh fuck they probably will…
Newsom’s working his way there, it seems.
Its like they are trapped in this cycle of never ciriticising those before them. Bidens ego is one of the biggest problems we had before trump took his place.
It’s worth remembering that the primary that Biden won was all just a show to sabotage Bernie Sanders and gift the nom to Biden. Worked out very well.
Yeah, apparently we owed that to Biden, or something like that.
So there should be a socialist party no?
Nope if you ask me. Socialists must conquer the Dem platform just as fascist have conquered the GOP
Problem is fascists get a lot of money or have their signal boosted with money for doing what they are doing. Socialists will be fought with money. Remember the billionaires standing in line behind Trump? Who were missing were the Murdoch media empire an Putin, they also signal-boosted Trump. But other than those, that row of billionaires gives you an idea of how much money is backing fascists.
That’s depressing on so many levels it’s almost funny.
In principle yeah, although I’ve a feeling the only way that’s going to happen is with a credible socialist party showing up to threaten the status quo and force their hand. Otherwise they’re just going to keep on keeping on; we already saw what happened with Bernie, and he’s not even that hard left.
Maybe.
Traditionally their views are in their names. You can expect other things from them, but also expect your expectations to not be met. Overcoming that is the fundamental point of democracy; quite irrelevant if trapped in a two party system, though. But try enjoy the ride where you can. There’s no getting off unless you leave the amusement park entirely.
Bernie: I have +45 on young male voters, and +12 over Trump if elected as the DNC nominee.
DNC: Were going to learn nothing from this, ever.
they’d rather see the corporate candidate lose than the popular candidate win
thats why they have a habit of choosing Republicans.
“They” as in like 30-40 Million People?
The DNC prefers maga chuds to any progressive in any seat.
What exactly is it you suggest they do about Bernie’s primary loss? Stop holding democratic primaries and just pick their own candidate who scores well in general polls?
What exactly is it you suggest they do about Bernie’s primary loss?
Stop. Ratfucking. Progressives.
Stop holding democratic primaries and just pick their own candidate who scores well in general polls?
As opposed to not holding primaries and picking a surefire loser like they did last year?
They need to stop fucking over progressives
But also 24 was stolen
My dude.
Kamala wasn’t chosen through a primary. Did you forget that?
The Dems are already acting as rediculous as you think they shouldn’t be.
And they have been for a long time. At least since Bernie.
Everyone in the US memory holed the DNC trial where they went to court and defended their right to pick whoever the fuck they wanted for a candidate over holding primaries.
In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders.
DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate.
“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,”
So the DNC has learned nothing and already is as stupid as you think they shouldn’t be.
Here’s what the DNC should do: Support who their voters think is popular, not their corporate financers.
All this bullshit could have been avoided if they did that with Bernie the first time. They learned nothing then did it again with Biden/ Kamala a second time. Now they’re doing it again with Mamdani for a third.
No, she wasn’t, Joseph Biden was. He won some states completely unopposed, because you’d be insane to challenge an incumbent. Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
And yeah, Shultz liked his own party better than the third party participating on his ticket, and that might have had some negligible impact on the 3 Million more votes that Clinton received than Bernie.
Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
I would have preffered the DNC dropped Joe with enough time to run a primary that DNC voters could have picked a candidate from. Especially given that he had cancer and likely knew about it during the election.
Instead, he dropped out way too late.
Because the DNC thought someone with ass cancer would look strong in a debate against a drugged up Trump.
Then they panicked when ass cancer grandpa failed the easiest debate in the history of presidential debates and then wasn’t polling as the “strong incumbent” you were made to believe he was.
The DNC waited too long to realise Biden wouldn’t win against billions of disinformation spending, and all they had to do was hold another primary to elect a new candidate to win.
Instead they waited too long - switched to Kamala too late - and then completely ran out of time.
Just like they took too long to persecute Trump. Too long to expand the court. Too long to codify Roe vs Wade. Too long for Democracy to be protected in a meaningful way.
And certainly too long to realize the young male supporters of Bernie have been going to Trump for decades now because the DNC labeled their very reasonable concerns as just dumb “Bernie Bros” BS instead of “the only voting base that can win American elections.”
I wasn’t exaggerating in my original post, Bernie would have won against Trump by +10 on average according to every general poll conducted before the DNC primary, even by Fox News.
Here are all those polls collected, I’ll bet it’s the first time you’ve ever seen them:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-sanders
Instead the DNC thought Hillary would still be good enough. And they still haven’t learned why that was a mistake when they thought Biden would be too.
Bernie would have unquestionably won against Trump. Period full stop. You should be furious the DNC made you think Hillary was better when she statistically wasn’t, just like you should be mad at the DNC for making someone with cancer debate a criminal.
You aren’t holding the DNC accountable for shitting the bed ever, so they keep doing it, now to the cost of our Democracy. They literally prefered a Trump president over actual progressive policies, so that’s what we have, and always will with the current DNC.
The difference between me and you is that you’re blaming democrats for everything Republicans do. I supported Kamala, I would have supported Biden, and more people like me would have completely averted this disaster.
I’m sure Chuck Schumer will get to the bottom of this after he finishes his book tour on antisemitism in America while being completely tone-deaf on the absolute disdain many of us have for our tax dollars supporting a genocide in the 21st century.
Cuck Coomer might as well be an Israeli citizen at this point
WONDER if any republicans and dems will get “righteous amongst nation” awards just for them.
No guys wait, why not pay our campain’s $100millions to cool billionares like Beyonce or Taylor Swift to relate to these young voters?
You know, if you’re holding a big GOTV drive in Houston and you want to bring their home town girl in to sing a few bars as part of a state convention or mobilizing event, I wouldn’t begrudge them that.
But Beyonce showed up at a big Harris event and didn’t perform any music. Literally paid to wave at the crowd and not do the thing for which you’re famous.
Lmao wut? Wasn’t the campaign manager literally just someone’s brother, that would explain so much
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Beyonce’s net worth is $800 million, so not quite a billionaire.
It’s not $800 million, it’s estimated $800 million. billionaire is well within the margin of error.
It’s also fucking Beyonce. If she isn’t worth a billion it’s only because she doesn’t care to be. If she wanted to she could release some new songs or do some shows and make it to a billion, but what real benefit is there? She can buy literally anything she wants and not worry about it.
One trip to Dubai would get her to a billion.
20% margin of error?
By reported wealth of rich people, yeah probably even higher. Don’t forget to add some millions for the months since the last estimate too.
What Trump spent a lot of time talking about during the campaign was the economy and cost of living, which got worse under Biden.
Even a lot of his anti immigration stuff was frames as “they’re taking our jobs”. And that’s what Mamadani is doing right.
…due to Trump’s terrible pandemic handling, and Republicans blocking the anti price gouging bills
Doesn’t change the fact that when people do worse economicly for any reason they want to vote out the incumbent.
Well, maybe if democrats hadn’t broken their promises about minimum wage and childcare and tuition, people would have experienced tangible benefits from the biden administration and democrats would have something to run on.
Which is moronic.
You can cry that voters are dumb all you like, but the only thing Biden could have done to win was improve the immediate material conditions of his constituents. He chose to do fuckall.
Trump was bad enough he still probably could have won if he didnt also choose to facilitate genocide and sent the cops to kick the shit out the politically activated students, the sort who not only vote but get others to vote too.
Gee, if only we had a majority we were willing to use. Oh well, at least we still have the Holy Filibuster that we’re just as unwilling to use.
And before some centrist pipes up with their usual “our hands were tied like we like them! We didn’t have enough to break the filibuster!” We could have ended the filibuster forever with 50 votes. We had 50 seats. Centrists didn’t want to. They still don’t want to. They’re happy having the filibuster and never using it because they know their republican buddies will use it to block progressive policy for them.
And circumstances that were affecting the global economy. Every country was hurting. If I’m not mistaken, the US was doing better than most of the rest of the world, under Biden.
Voters are just dumb.
When you’re suffering, you really want to hear “it could be worse” from the people who showed over the course of months as they killed build back better and made sure the minimum wage stayed low that they had no interest in making anything better.
And if you come back with the Inflation Reduction Act or the CHIPS act, you typify the whole fucking problem.
If you want to win when the economy is in recession, you have to make up the difference. FDR didnt get elected on “do nothing and hope the economy deigns to bless the people with jobs”
Which Republicans know, which is why they block everything every Democrat tries to do. Biden tried numerous things which were halted by our broken Senate
Convenient excuse. If dems genuinely wanted these things, they could include it in bills that can’t be filibustered, use executive orders or just help people and let the SCOTUS complain about it later.
We know they know how, because we see both republicans and dems do it, but only to make things worse for us or make sure Israel keeps getting bombs when congress is broken.
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Dems don’t want to win every election because that would break the scam.
Send in the republicans to loot our money and then send in the dems to fix everything up enough to where they can loot again.
I keep saying this but it feels like the Dems are a Russia-style controlled opposition party.
Doesn’t mean 100% of them are garbage, but the leadership sure does seem like it hates the idea of successful opposition
Fix? Best we can do is Most Lethal Military Ever and expanding the programs we all agreed were bad under Trump.
At this point, the Dem party consider themselves retired.; enjoying their investor’s cash, and playing fiddle while DC burns.
Every Democrat that accepts blood money, fuck you.
It’s time to reform the government.
Edit: and people need to seriously consider what that looks like. Especially once the smoke clears
Changing the voting system is the first step.
A lot of smart people have looked at this problem. With years of study, lots of math, and some real world testing, the best option for a replacement is STAR.
This right here. Get rid of the electoral college and make all voting mandatory STAR voting is a great start.
We also need to somehow end the legalized bribery and get money out of politics, to ensure those elected work for US, not the donor class. And we sure as hell shouldn’t be letting foreign governments buy and control our politicians (AIPAC, saudis, looking at you especially).
I’ll add abolishing all hierarchy. No more capitalism, but a gift economy, with workplace democracy for all!
They’re like the asshat CEOs that keep pumping useless software consultants full of money.
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It’s kinda funny. They’ll also want their own Rogan, but the guys who fit that bill that are leftist call them out to. The dems just wanted a spokesperson with a cock and they are not getting it.
I am stilo cringing at white men for kamala or whatever they called themselves.
It gave the magats so much fuel too. And frankly I felt it was pretty dehumanizing like I am just going to vote for her just because other people who look like me are. They did less then the bare minimum when all they had to do was offer real policies that help everyone. I think its the sociality version of someone who got a degree in business and thinks they can do anything.
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