• YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    It’s just nonsense for people who are too asocial and alien to the human experience to make sense of the world and feel better about themselves by having some sort of binary ‘strict goals’. You’re supposed to be somewhere ‘in the middle’ for best results: kind but not a doormat, confident but not arrogant, engaging but not domineering, etc etc.

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    Among dogs there is certainly the one dog that has the respect of the other dogs. The other dogs will happily wag their tail and show their belly. The ones that challange it will be chased away. I think each sex in the community has a ‘leader’ of their own.

    I think the equivalent in humans are charismatic individuals that command respect over their surrounding.

    People who self-proclaim ‘alpha’ usually lack charisma, are agressive, dysfunctional individuals that live in a fantasy. Noone respects them. They may see them as crazy and hence fear them.

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      You’re probably talking about literally the same: random dogs thrown spacially together where they naturally would avoid each other if they could. Which, in the modern days, they can’t. Especially not when leached.

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        I observe this in the stray dog population. There is always one calm and confident dog like this.

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          And? Of course there is. They’re also on a spectrum. Everyone is everything to some degree.

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      i mean we’ve got that one cat that beats up all the other cats and dogs in the neighborhood and everyone knows to keep their distance. pecking order I think it’s called.

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    I think “alpha” males appear naturally in some species, but not in wolves and definitely not in hominids, lol.

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      Silverback gorilla has entered the chat

      Apparently there’s some disagreement about whether any of the other modern great apes should be included in the “hominid” definition, though.

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      I guess. I was able to engage in real conversation on Reddit and still do here, sounds like you’ve not really trying.

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      You’re on a 1 day old account with only 4 comments. You haven’t even tried to have a conversation yet. You’re also on the lemmy.world instance which is as close to Reddit as Lemmy gets, so what would you expect? Maybe try a different instance that’s closer to what you’re looking for.

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    Alpha means “first”, it does not mean “wolf who fights other wolves while in captivity according to one study.”

    Do people not know this?

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      No, alpha is the anglicization of the first letter of the greek alphabet. It doesn’t mean ‘first’ any more than the letter A does.

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        I’m right still, you are wrong! Alpha is not problematic in any way. It’s in the Bible (the best selling book on Earth, at least at one time), it’s used in pop culture while not referring to the study in any way. So now annoying people use “alpha” just like “king” and “prince” and “the best” and “the greatest”.

        You’ll all get over it soon, as usual. I promise.

        p.s as per your question, yes I do know of it, as stated in my post that you responded to. I’m sorry that referring to it was an inadequate indicator that I knew of it, so I’m guessing your question is a joke? I mean, it’s obvious.

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          “I am the alpha and the omega” only means “I am the beginning and the end” because alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Alpha does not mean “first” in Greek you smug dipshit.

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            Wow, this is big news… you should write Webster, Oxford, et al immediately and let everyone know they’ve made a massive mistake! Thank you for saving us from this horrid linguistic error!

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alpha

            You are 100% wrong, and not even worth an insult. You bring shame to your family and make me sad.

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    I know, not scientifically real, but you have to admit, there are in fact alpha and beta folks in the human population, both men and women. We used to call them type A and type B personalities, same difference.

    Anyway, I’m in some kinda weird half-and-half place. :) “On the spectrum”, if you will. Dominant in some ways, but not enough to stomp people out of my way, empathetic enough to be seen as a “good guy”. Whatever. I’m just happy I didn’t land on either far side. Can you imagine being a wuss and having dreams of “alpha”? The mind recoils.

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      Anyway, I’m in some kinda weird half-and-half place. :) “On the spectrum”, if you will.

      Hey, maybe people are not binary and everyone is “on the spectrum”? Maybe that’s why trying to put everyone into A and B boxes doesn’t make much sense?

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        There’s only two of anything if you define broadly enough. There’s only two kinds of people: • those who have passed a kidney stone and those who haven’t • those who currently have a single testicle and those who don’t

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          I have a signed document pledging the right testicle of a highschool friend that I technically own and will collect upon his death. I don’t know how many testicles I have.

          I didn’t make that up for a hypothetical. This is how I live.

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              Let’s do it, but only if this online friendship doesn’t lead to a chance meetcute where my friend dies and the will is contested, and you happen to be the best damn testicle lawyer this side of the Mississippi River.

              I’ve already given up on love and nothing will thaw this icy heart. Not even the best damn testicle lawyer this side of the Mississippi River.

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      Different people have different personalities? That’s how humans work. It’s not neatly categorizable. Not even on a single sliding axis. Multiple sliding axis for different traits is more like it.

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        Who’s “we”?

        Probably OP Commentor is using the Pluralis Majestatis (the royal we)