• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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        People would probably be more supportive of your cause if you didn’t exaggerate in the most extreme and incorrect ways

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          Cows produce more milk if they’re forcibly impregnated every year. Supporting cow milk is supporting rape, this is a fact.

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            The word you’re looking for is “artificial insemination” and it does not equate to rape. This is a fact.

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              Alright then c’mon over buddy I’ll get the turkey baster ready

              I’m not even vegan but wtf is this logic

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                So putting semen up a vagina without consent isn’t rape?

                The concept of consent does not apply for livestock in this context. And yes, in the context of artificially inseminating livestock, that is correct.

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                  In what context? Animals? Are you saying a guy sticking his dick in his pet dog is a situation without any consent problems?

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            Look, I don’t disagree with your point necessarily, but you’re not winning over literally anyone in this thread. It’s just not happening.

            Nobody ever has been convinced that dairy is rape and meat is murder by some Lemmy user saying “dairy is rape” and following up with “because it is”.

            Most obviously, your primary argument is consequentialism, which many people just don’t see as a valid form of ethics. Many people subscribe to deontology instead, and so they don’t see it as rape because they are not obtaining sexual gratification from artificial insemination or drinking milk.

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              You’re telling me motive makes a bad thing okay to do under deontology? In other words, it’s okay for a deontologist to murder someone if they have a cool motive?

              I dunno I thought Kant said you should never do bad things even if you have a good reason.

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                Imo, Kant’s principles don’t really apply in this scenario, the Categorical Imperative applies to human-to-human treatment. Kant’s primary principle is act as such it would become universal law. Animal consumption is already a universal law.

                Murder (of a human) is wrong because when applied universally, then society collapses. Theft is wrong because when applied universally, the right of property, and therefore society, collapses.

                Animal consumption doesn’t cause societal collapse.

                Thoughts?

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                  Animal consumption causes factory farming, and farming causes chickens to develop stress-induced autophagia. I don’t like it when the chickens are so unhappy they eat themselves and need to be debeaked. We should all stop doing things that cause that.

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            yeah, we just let the bull do his thing and the family dairy worked fine until we sold it in the 90s. where you getting your info because I lived it?

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            They have got a point. You know what they mean. People will ignore you if you push your narrative too far, in their opinion

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              Because I said “animal rape?” How dare I state blatantly where the beloved dairy products come from, the horror!

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                  I’m with this guy.

                  Also I think even if they want to make the most forfecul point possible, I don’t think talking about consent is the greatest thing.

                  Should really impress the fact that they’re won’t produce milk unless they’ve been pregnant. So dairy cows are kept pregnant as much as possible. They live like five years then collapse of exhaustion and get carted to the slaughterhouse.

                  The cows my late grandma tended to in her youth lived like 20 years.

                  Industrial intensive farming is immoral as fuck but I can’t really pretend like the cow understands sexual assault.

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                Apparently it doesn’t bother you that you make veganism look bad since you chose to be sarcastic like that. You’re actively preventing veganism

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    I love the comments here.

    OP: uses AI to illustrate five-second throwaway gag

    average poster: is that AI? burn him! burn the witch!

    armchair plumbers: you can’t bury pipes that shallow, and why the heck would you do direct burial?

    armchair engineers: do you know how much heat you’re wasting?!

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      Honestly I wasn’t going to post this, because it’s an AI meme. I just thought the whole juxtaposition of the obvious AI image and the idea itself was so stupidly funny

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      I’m more curious how a hot water main works? Is there just millions of miles of heated pipes underground? And I thought a gas boiler was inefficient.

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        Any time you want hot water, you need to wait for all of the water between your house and the heating facility to drain before you get hot water. It can help to coordinate with your neighbours.

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          Wait. That’s a different problem than hot water just from my basement. The basement is slow, but has nothing to do with neighbors. I think we live in different countries.

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            The mains are shared with your neighbours, so a hot water main would also be shared with neighbours. So just like running the hot water in the bathroom sink before a shower means hot water gets to the shower quicker, with hot water mains, your neighbour having a hot shower before you means you’ll see hot water sooner.

            Though my country does not have hot water mains. I wouldn’t be surprised if the heat losses are enough that even sharing a water heater between unattached neighbours is less efficient than both using their own heaters, let alone a whole city doing that. Though maybe tropical areas could do it.

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        There’s a few places that use the water runoff from a nuclear power plant to provide hot water or heating to surrounding homes. Apparently they only have a lose about 3% of the heat and can supply a 100km area.

        Obviously the pipes probably don’t look like that

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      Perfect. At least some of the people are not asleep at the wheel and can still keep the place they like garbage-free.

      I like that people can and do express that LLM slop is not welcome here.

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    Beer pipeline are a thing. At the Hellfest festival all the bars are connected to a beer pipeline fed by tankers trucks of beer.

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      cafe latte service competition has arrived.

      this reminds me of someone who lived near a brewery and got a line installed in his house. this happened long ago and i don’t remember the details

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      Exactly. Almost as great of an idea as running a 1/2” hot/cold line 100+ ft to a house from… nvm, I give up, this is too stupid to even make a joke.

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    Why is the milk pipeline so huge? Planning on using 10x milk compared to water? :)

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      A family of five will use up to 50 gallons of milk a day performing their regular colon cleansing enema. A larger pipeline is not only important for the volume needed to complete the enemas, but also reduces the pressure. this increases the safety of the public and allows them to calm their bowels through milk-meditative-medicine, sponsored by 3M.